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WHAT’S BEHIND “THE VISION” in YOUR TOWN?
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| Feb 15, 2005
| Susanna Lynton Jennings
Posted on 02/16/2005 6:15:55 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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Here's how we get from free market housing to cost shifted centrally planned stack 'em and pack 'em soviet style housing blocs.
To: pbrown; lodwick; Dixielander; texastoo; o_zarkman44; Kay Ludlow; farmfriend
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To: hedgetrimmer
Another great wake-up call here. Thanks.
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posted on
02/16/2005 6:19:42 PM PST
by
lodwick
(Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
To: lodwick
Here's a couple of related articles
Community Plans Aim to Change Values Community plans are specifically designed to reflect aesthetically the collective values they seek to impose -- at the expense of individual expression and privacy. Full text: Community planning (including growth management, comprehensive planning and smart growth) is suddenly all the rage. Just a few years ago, the words "charrette", "visioning council", and "consensus planning", were virtually unknown to most Americans. These words have been introduced to our neighborhoods by a coterie of community planners, who've fanned out across the country to confuse Americans into accepting a different political philosophy and a different way of living.
Freepers Beware of the Non-Meeting Meeting (Vanity) Perhaps some of you who are veterans at planning issues have seen this, but the other night I witnessed my first community plan meeting that was moderated in the "Assets, Issues, and Solutions" format.
CA: Community Planning Case Study: Corralitos, California An existing town that has excited the interest of community planners is the small town of Corralitos, located in an unincorporated area of Santa Cruz County, California. The Corralitos Valley Community Plan follows the same guidelines and values as groups like the Congress for New Urbanism and the Smart Growth Network whose stated goals are to reshape our values from an individual rights-oriented society to a "community" or collective rights society. "Visioning" plans use psychological and physical cueing designed to make residents change their views on the social value of private property and submit to rules and regulations of conformity required for a "community rights" oriented society to evolve.
To: hedgetrimmer
We have a plan called 'The Overlay' to reform our little burb into cluster.
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posted on
02/16/2005 6:29:43 PM PST
by
jusduat
(I am a strange and recurring anomaly)
To: hedgetrimmer
Another aspect of this we are seeing on the SF Peninsula is that they are subtly trying to move the existing detached housing stock in the direction of gay / single / DINK friendly (coincidentally, two of these subcultures tend to vote to the Left, en masse). Here's how they are doing it. Firstly, they are really emphasizing "picture postcard perfect" which means making the existing (typically too small) houses look more New Englandeasque (they don't like Spanish Style, in spite of our location and real history). They also make it tough to accomodate more than one or two vehicles by refusing to allow driveway - parking pad expansions. They stiffle additions by not allowing cuts and slope modifications in backyards and by having a 28 foot peak roofline to ground level height limit. And recently, they made it clear they don't like what they consider to be "rednecks" by banning parking of boats, RVs and the like in front of homes. Etc. Is it a conspiracy? As I mentioned on a related thread, I overheard, in a coffeehouse frequented by the "smart set" a couple of, shall we say, alternative lifestyle living, politically connected people, specifically scheming on how to use zoning to put pressure on "breeders" to move out. Any questions?
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posted on
02/16/2005 6:30:48 PM PST
by
GOP_1900AD
(Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
To: jusduat
Fight it with every breath you take.
This is not about providing housing for everyone, although its clear that it is an economic disaster when the government gets involved in housing.
Its about re-engineering Americans to give up their individuality and become good collectivists. Have you noticed that the clusters and "town center' developments pushed by smart growth resemble medieval European villages? That is on purpose, because if you've noticed Europe lately, it has become almost completely sovietized, or collectivized. When you force people to live in collective situations, its easier to engineer them into thinking like a collectivist and thinking that individualism and self government is bad.
This is the one-two whammy-- they are teaching our kids in school to be collectivists, then they rework our neighborhoods, towns and cities so that nothing is private, everything is public or the collective and poof! Suddenly America is just another regional consumer group buying products and living at the leisure of the globalist economy.
To: GOP_1900AD
Take this file and study it carefully. Here are the techiques used by the smart growthers, agenda 21 UN sustainable developers to steal property rights from the American people.
You might recognize some of the techniques the "smart set" couple were discussing. Not may of these 100 policies are constitutional or take into account the wishes of the American people to preserve their heritage and property rights.
Getting to Smart Growth, 100 policies for implementation
To: hedgetrimmer
Thanks! We've done visioning here - Vision2020. All the meetings I attended (and there were a number of them) were mostly government and NGO. At one, where they split us up into groups for discussion, I stated my opposition to the concept of government planning out the community for 20 years (after all, who do you know in government that's smart enough to predict accurately what the next 20 years will bring?). Someone in my group had the gall to ask me why I even came if I didn't believe in the process! I told them I believed that it was my responsibility as a citizen to go to these kind of events, and speak up on behalf of the majority that don't want government planning their lives for them. For some reason, those comments didn't get up on the flip-chart...
If any of you see notices for visioning meetings in your community, GO TO THEM! Speak up and say you don't agree with the process. Make the paid consultants lives miserable by having to face the opposition in person!
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posted on
02/16/2005 7:39:54 PM PST
by
Kay Ludlow
(Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
To: jusduat
We have a plan called 'The Overlay' We had overlay district planning too. In our case, it was an attempt to transcend the boundaries of local government (who wouldn't support anything THAT radical) but "taking it to the people", getting a model ordinance written (which they did), then taking it to all municipalities to pass. They wrote the ordinance, but even here in planning crazy Centre Region I don't think any municipality adopted it. It was being sold as the way to prevent our community from ending up like Breezewood (at the interface between I-80 and I-79 in southern PA). As we stated repeatedly, there were already plenty of regulations in place that would eliminate that possibility - why add more? The model ordinance included things like what exterior coverings were acceptable on buildings in the overlay district (natural materials only); limitations on the quantity and reflectivity of glass; requirements on landscaping that would pretty much ensure that if you didn't know a business was there you wouldn't know it; sign restrictions so businesses couldn't put at readable signs to identify their hidden businesses, etc. I told people it was almost like they wanted to put out a "keep out, no strangers welcome" sign at every entrance to the region - LOL! It was ridiculed enough that it didn't pass though.
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posted on
02/16/2005 7:47:17 PM PST
by
Kay Ludlow
(Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
To: Kay Ludlow; EdReform; take; Fiddlstix; Wonder Warthog; christie; PersonalLiberties; dasboot; ...
To: hedgetrimmer
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posted on
02/16/2005 8:40:02 PM PST
by
Fiddlstix
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To: jusduat
Here is what the department of energy is planning for youd. Do you feel claustrophic yet? You should because all those open spaces are OFF LIMITS to human beings (except NOAA employees, high members of the federal goverment and employees and families of the NGOs engaged in the public/private partnerships that exist off your tax payer dollars):
Conventional Design
Conservation Approach
New Urbanist Design
http://www.csc.noaa.gov/alternatives/views_3d.html
To: Fiddlstix
Donuts----unghhhhhh....
To: hedgetrimmer
"When you force people to live in collective situations, its easier to engineer them into thinking like a collectivist and thinking that individualism and self government is bad."
hmmmmm...you mean like in college dorms?
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posted on
02/16/2005 8:52:23 PM PST
by
sageb1
To: sageb1
I would say in the case of the University of California, Santa Cruz-- yes.
If you look at the Congress for New Urbanism they say:
Planners acknowledge that America "remains a land of and dedicated to the individual" and that "rights talk" must be quashed and "community rights" and values promoted.
http://www.civic-strategies.com/library/planned_communities.pdf
To: hedgetrimmer
Part of the problem mention above is that the local city commisions are packed with real estate brokers and agents who make profit by the devolopment of land they own.
They buy up houses and then use the fact they granted ONE variance to get their little clusters approved for micro condominiums/townhouses.
Real estate agents will become the new used care salesmen or lawyers as far as public scorn.
To: hedgetrimmer
I don't want to go off subject, but I'd like to thank you for bringing up the Hegelian dialectic and Delphi. People need to be very worried and very alert. The same tactics are being used in new psychotherapy techniques and in religion. My Roman Catholic Church uses the Hegelian technique in the new Purpose-Drive Life circle groups. I've stayed away.
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posted on
02/16/2005 9:07:17 PM PST
by
sageb1
To: hedgetrimmer
I don't want to go off subject, but I'd like to thank you for bringing up the Hegelian dialectic and Delphi. People need to be very worried and very alert. The same tactics are being used in new psychotherapy techniques and in religion. My Roman Catholic Church uses the Hegelian technique in the new Purpose-Drive Life circle groups. I've stayed away.
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posted on
02/16/2005 9:08:07 PM PST
by
sageb1
To: hedgetrimmer
Thanks for the information/links.
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posted on
02/16/2005 9:11:41 PM PST
by
PGalt
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