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Judge drops all chargesagainst Philly Christians
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 17, 2005 | WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 02/17/2005 9:55:43 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie

TESTING THE FAITH Judge drops all charges against Philly Christians Adults who evangelized at homosexual event vindicated, teen girl likely off hook tomorrow

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: February 17, 2005 12:33 p.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

In what is being hailed as a victory for free speech, a judge in Philadelphia today dismissed all criminal charges against four Christians who were arrested for evangelizing at an outdoor homosexual event.

Judge Pamela Dembe of the Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas dismissed the charges, saying that she found no basis whatsoever for any of them.

"We are one of the very few countries that protects unpopular speech," Dembe said after viewing a videotape of the arrests. As WorldNetDaily reported, on Oct. 10, a group of 11 Christians was "preaching God's Word" to a crowd of people attending the Philadelphia "OutFest" event and displaying banners with biblical messages.

After a confrontation with a group called the Pink Angels, described by protesters as "a militant mob of homosexuals," the Christians were arrested and spent a night in jail.

Eight charges were filed: criminal conspiracy, possession of instruments of crime, reckless endangerment of another person, ethnic intimidation, riot, failure to disperse, disorderly conduct and obstructing highways.

None of the Pink Angels was cited or arrested.

After a preliminary hearing in December, Judge William Austin Meehan ordered four of the Christians to stand trial on three felony and five misdemeanor charges. If convicted, each could have received a maximum of 47 years in prison. One female teenage protester faces charges in the juvenile justice system, but those charges likely will be dropped tomorrow.

"The judge saw this case for what it is," Joe Infranco, senior counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund, said in a statement. "This was the right response to an outrageous abuse of power to silence speech that some people didn't like.

"What took place here was a government crackdown on disfavored speech. The OutFest participants staged a national coming-out day on a public street using public funds, and then they tried to say it's a private event. That didn't make any sense, and neither did the actions of the police. …"

Dembe is the judge who last month removed the bail requirement that the defendants stay at least 100 feet away from any homosexual gathering.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christians; homosexual; homosexualagenda; outfest; philly; philly4; philly5; pinkangels; repentamerica
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1 posted on 02/17/2005 9:55:45 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie
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To: 26lemoncharlie

BTTT


2 posted on 02/17/2005 9:56:21 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Now they're free to sue their attackers.


3 posted on 02/17/2005 9:56:57 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Now they should sue to recover their court and attorney fees.


4 posted on 02/17/2005 9:57:42 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real politcal victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

YES! Thank you, Judge Dembe.


5 posted on 02/17/2005 9:58:13 AM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Take that homofacists!


6 posted on 02/17/2005 9:58:20 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
In what is being hailed as a victory for free speech, a judge in Philadelphia today dismissed all criminal charges against four Christians who were arrested for evangelizing at an outdoor homosexual event.

Judge Pamela Dembe of the Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas dismissed the charges, saying that she found no basis whatsoever for any of them.

Thanks be to God. Now the next step is to make sure the DA that brought these charges loses his job.

7 posted on 02/17/2005 9:58:23 AM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Took the words out of my mouth, conservatives must become litigious and file suits at every turn. Fight fire with fire.

This is the best news of the day, now jailing the dements who filed charges should be in the near future (one can only wish).


8 posted on 02/17/2005 9:59:10 AM PST by wrathof59 ("to the Everlasting Glory of the Infantry".........Robert A Heinlein)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

YAY!!!!!!


9 posted on 02/17/2005 9:59:13 AM PST by MonroeDNA (US OUT of the UN!)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
...defendants stay at least 100 feet away from any homosexual gathering

I don't need a court order to keep me away!

10 posted on 02/17/2005 9:59:34 AM PST by conserv13
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To: wrathof59

Here's hoping.


11 posted on 02/17/2005 9:59:43 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: 26lemoncharlie
Amen.

12 posted on 02/17/2005 10:02:14 AM PST by AnnaZ (You can help stop a murder ::: http://terrisfight.org/)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Good news..!


13 posted on 02/17/2005 10:03:09 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
"...a militant mob of homosexuals..."

Sounds like Howard Dean's family reunion.
14 posted on 02/17/2005 10:06:23 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

This is outstanding. I wish I could say I'm not surprised, but after the first judge's reaction, I didn't know what to expect.


15 posted on 02/17/2005 10:06:30 AM PST by andyk
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Will they sue? or turn the other cheek?


16 posted on 02/17/2005 10:07:25 AM PST by MTD
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To: 26lemoncharlie

This is what I expected would happen. The system works.


17 posted on 02/17/2005 10:07:44 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
"We are one of the very few countries that protects unpopular speech," Dembe said after viewing a videotape of the arrests.

Yes, the speech was so unpopular that our side lost all the gay "marriage" ballot measures last November, right? < /sarcasm>

Still, Judge Dembe's decision is right and we can be grateful for that.

18 posted on 02/17/2005 10:09:23 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("I speak Spanish to God, French to women, English to men, and Japanese to my horse."-Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

I still want to know who the butt pirate Justice Dept attorneys were who were present that day and 'advised' the local DA on what charges to file


19 posted on 02/17/2005 10:10:25 AM PST by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: MTD

"ethnic intimidation" What pack of idiots passed that law? I cannot begin to count the number of times myself and others have been ethnicly intimidate because we are WASP's.


20 posted on 02/17/2005 10:10:41 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: Mulch

or, Howard, who's your daddies?


21 posted on 02/17/2005 10:12:05 AM PST by MadAnthony1776 ("liberalism" = "do as I say, not as I do")
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To: wrathof59
. . . conservatives must become litigious and file suits at every turn.

Conservatives maybe, Christians no. Matthew 5:25; Agree with thine adversary quickly . . .

22 posted on 02/17/2005 10:12:51 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Thank God for a sane judge.

I tried to google up some info on her. Pages and pages of Free Mumia crap tells me she's unpopular with that crowd too.


23 posted on 02/17/2005 10:16:08 AM PST by katnip (Starving sick people to death is immoral and Un-American)
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To: MTD

I believe a suit against the D.A., et al., for malicious prosecution is warranted.


24 posted on 02/17/2005 10:16:08 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

And I hope that they sue them into the poor house. Especially the DOJ ttorneys that were advocating their arrest.


25 posted on 02/17/2005 10:18:12 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: BenLurkin

Bump


26 posted on 02/17/2005 10:19:36 AM PST by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

There may be grounds to sue the police department in a civil rights action. Making them pay is the only way to stop this kind of abuse and harassment. Think of the horror these Christians have had to endure the last few months.


27 posted on 02/17/2005 10:20:12 AM PST by Clump
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To: Map Kernow
Now the next step is to make sure the DA that brought these charges loses his job.

Absolutely............and the PC thug police chief, too boot

28 posted on 02/17/2005 10:21:53 AM PST by Popman
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To: 26lemoncharlie

"We are one of the very few countries that protects unpopular speech," Dembe said after viewing a videotape of the arrests."

So the ( Christian ) protestors were spewing unpopular speech? While I agree with this judges decision, I think she needs to re-examine what she said there.

Unpolular to whom? The gay and lesbian crowd? Is she saying that speaking out against homosexuality is unpopular? I don`t know, I am a little confused about her statement.


29 posted on 02/17/2005 10:28:27 AM PST by Peace will be here soon
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To: Map Kernow
Thanks be to God. Now the next step is to make sure the DA that brought these charges loses his job.

It's a she. But yes, she should lose her job.
30 posted on 02/17/2005 10:36:27 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc sign, vinces †)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

YES!!!!!!!


31 posted on 02/17/2005 10:39:38 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
Though I walk in the midst of trouble, Thou quickenest me; Thou stretchest forth Thy hand against the wrath of mine enemies, and Thy right hand doth save me. ---Psalms 138:7
32 posted on 02/17/2005 10:42:41 AM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Glad to see that Philadelphia has one courageous judge who is on the side of the angels.


33 posted on 02/17/2005 10:44:40 AM PST by Abby4116
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To: 26lemoncharlie

bump


34 posted on 02/17/2005 10:45:35 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: katnip

Thank God for a sane judge!!

You said it!! We must make sure MORE SANE judges are on the Bench. We must get rid of these radicals forcing the European Interpretation of the US LAWS.


35 posted on 02/17/2005 10:47:05 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: katnip

Thank God for a sane judge!!

You said it!! We must make sure MORE SANE judges are on the Bench. We must get rid of these radicals forcing the European Interpretation of the US LAWS.


36 posted on 02/17/2005 10:47:08 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: Peace will be here soon
So the ( Christian ) protestors were spewing unpopular speech? While I agree with this judges decision, I think she needs to re-examine what she said there.

I think the judge's wider point is that the whole idea behind the 1st Amendment is that a person shouldn't be punished for expressing an idea that his listeners don't like.

On that particular street-corner, the protestors' speech was unpopular.

37 posted on 02/17/2005 10:47:30 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: Antoninus
It's a she. But yes, she should lose her job.

Fair enough. Just a note: in the old days before political correctness and femi-Nazism, legal documents and statutes would contain a boilerplate provision that "the masculine gender includes the feminine and vice versa." That is, if the document read "he" and one or more of the parties was a "she," you just read the "he" as a "she," no problem. Now of course, if you don't spill extra ink and chew up more paper and bandwidth laboriously typing or writing out "he or she," you're in trouble. Just a historical observation---nothing more. :)

38 posted on 02/17/2005 10:51:30 AM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Modernman

"I think the judge's wider point is that the whole idea behind the 1st Amendment is that a person shouldn't be punished for expressing an idea that his listeners don't like.

On that particular street-corner, the protestors' speech was unpopular."


I think that too, but it would have been nice to hear that from her. Maybe it was just left out of the article.....But the statement as read, was a little unclear on where this judge actually stood on this issue. The word "unpopular" was a poor choice of word in that instance ( IMO ). This was not about "unpopular" speech, it was about free speech in general.


39 posted on 02/17/2005 10:58:40 AM PST by Peace will be here soon
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping.

News we've been waiting to hear!

Judge Pamela Dembe of the Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas dismissed the charges, saying that she found no basis whatsoever for any of them.

If you want on/off the ping list see my profile page.

40 posted on 02/17/2005 10:59:04 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
"In what is being hailed as a victory for free speech, a judge in Philadelphia today dismissed all criminal charges against four Christians who were arrested for evangelizing at an outdoor homosexual event.

Judge Pamela Dembe of the Philadelphia County Court of Common Pleas dismissed the charges, saying that she found no basis whatsoever for any of them."

HOORAY!!!!!! I am glad Judge Dembe's FIRST allegiance is to the FIRST AMENDMENT and NOT to District Attorney Lynne Abraham.

41 posted on 02/17/2005 11:06:04 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

Counter suit and stick-it-to-em-good...


42 posted on 02/17/2005 11:06:25 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (I just took a Muhammad and wiped my Jihadist with Mein Koran...come and get me nutbags.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Exactly!


43 posted on 02/17/2005 11:08:03 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: Map Kernow
DISTRICT ATTORNEY LYNNE ABRAHAM should also have lost her job for what she did to my brother, Don Adams.

She charged the victim of a vicious assault, who she KNEW was innocent, and had him stand trial. She then lied about what she did publicly on many occasions and also to the WALL STREET JOURNAL.

And let us NOT forget it.

44 posted on 02/17/2005 11:11:30 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
"What took place here was a government crackdown on disfavored speech."

It was DISGRACEFUL!

45 posted on 02/17/2005 11:14:07 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: MTD

I hope they SUE and SUE them GOOD. This can NEVER happen again in the city where the constitution was ratified and signed.


46 posted on 02/17/2005 11:17:21 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: MTD

I hope they SUE and SUE them GOOD. This can NEVER happen again in the city where the constitution was ratified and signed.


47 posted on 02/17/2005 11:17:28 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Praise be!

THIS is an example of a victory for free speech, not some of the things that "they" claim...


48 posted on 02/17/2005 11:19:40 AM PST by jcb8199
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Dismissal is good, but where is the apology? There should be an apology.


49 posted on 02/17/2005 11:20:35 AM PST by Petronski (Tagline under renovation.)
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To: TAdams8591
And let us NOT forget it.

Absolutely not. Neither forgive nor forget. FReepers in PA and other states should henceforth use every legal means to remove LYNNE ABRAHAM from office at the earliest opportunity.

50 posted on 02/17/2005 11:20:51 AM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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