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Gay-free texts a dilemma for school district
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 2/18/05 | Mark Eddington

Posted on 02/18/2005 1:00:51 PM PST by colorcountry

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To: BenLurkin
Are people who were mentally ill last year not ill this year?

That's sort of what happened around 1975 when homosexuality was removed from the DSM which is the bible of shrinks. That removal was the start of homo's coming out of the closet and has lead to the demands for special laws and "gay marriage" which is an oxymoron. The reason the shrinks removed homosexuality as a mental illness was that so many of the shrinks were homo's.

21 posted on 02/18/2005 1:16:19 PM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: newgeezer

"How exactly does a psychology text book become "outmoded"?"

I think few people remember that homosexuality was only removed from DSM as a psychological disorder in the early 1970's.


22 posted on 02/18/2005 1:16:40 PM PST by deepFR
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To: colorcountry

No problem; best of luck to you.


23 posted on 02/18/2005 1:18:07 PM PST by deepFR
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To: deepFR

There is also that brief period when PEDOPHILLIA was removed from the DSM and then put back in under a later issued addendum.

The APA is a joke, it like the ABA and the AMA is VOLUNTARY.


24 posted on 02/18/2005 1:19:58 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: colorcountry
Stop teaching psychology in high school and the problem goes away.

Most of psychology is utter nonsense anyway. I have read dozens of books on this and the only one that even started to make any sense was Nathaniel Branden's "The Psychology of Self-Esteem" and even Branden admitted the information was his best guess based on his clinical experience.

Thomas Szasz has written some great books on the fraud of Freud and other psychologists and psychiatrists.

The fact that the American Psychiatric Society reversed themselves on the homosexuality issue due to political pressure tells you all you need to know about those quacks.

:-(
25 posted on 02/18/2005 1:20:22 PM PST by cgbg (How evil is Hillary? Let me count the ways...)
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To: wk4bush2004

I thought ACLU = American Criminal Liberties Union.


26 posted on 02/18/2005 1:21:02 PM PST by BitWielder1
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To: longtermmemmory

and after seven years of rough handling, they collectively get damaged.


27 posted on 02/18/2005 1:21:20 PM PST by OriginalChristian (W2 - Rock On...)
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To: BenLurkin
How exactly does a psychology text book become "outmoded"?

The "older" texts do not even consider Christianity to be a mental illness...

28 posted on 02/18/2005 1:22:52 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: BenLurkin

There have been huge technological advances which have enabled researchers to gain very specific knowledge about neurochemistry and the physical functioning of the brain, which just didn't exist 10-15 years ago. One example is the imaging technology which has allowed comparisons of male and female brains working on the same task -- in boys/men a very task-specific area in the brain shows huge activity while the rest remains dark; in girls/women, that task-specific area lights up more than the rest, but not as much as in the male brains, and many other parts of the brain light up to a lesser but very significant degree.

This sort of new knowledge is very important in fighting various ignorance-based assumptions of recent decades, including the nonsense that gender differences in intellectual performance are entirely due to "sexist" socialization. Havrad President Lawrence Summers used another example in his "controversial" statements about gender differences, pointing out that many mental problems which used to be attributed to socialization/parenting styles, etc. have since been found to be genetic/organic in origin. The key example he used was autism, which leading psychology and medical researchers once generally agreed was due to personality problems in the parents affecting how they interacted with their children. Now that advanced brain-imaging techniques are available, researchers have found very clear abnormalities in how certain areas of the brain grow in autistic children.


29 posted on 02/18/2005 1:23:17 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: cgbg

Consider that BF Skinner teaches behavior is LEARNED and he is the father of modern psychology.

YET, homo-recruiters like the GLSEN, PFLAG, and the GSA (student sex club) come in and say behavior is "born".


They might as well say "born to party".


30 posted on 02/18/2005 1:23:32 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: BitWielder1

It can be both. They're Anti-Christian and a bunch of liberal communist liberty-snatching criminals.


31 posted on 02/18/2005 1:24:42 PM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: tfecw
2+2 = 4 until the socialist left comes along and changes that to 2+2 =5 ;)

Socialists claim that 2+2=5 but actually, under socialist rule 2+2=3 or less.
32 posted on 02/18/2005 1:25:04 PM PST by BitWielder1
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To: colorcountry

Thanks ... I should have figured they'd thought of it. Cheaper for the school district, as well as giving them control over the content.


33 posted on 02/18/2005 1:27:00 PM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I just want to be clear. You are discussing medical advances that concern the brain.

Psychology and psychiatry are touchy-feely opinions about personality.

Physical brain damage is a medical problem. While psychiatry would love to "muscle in" on that territory they are only doing so to try to legtimize their bogus profession.

In my opinion one hundred years from now psychiatry will be considered as laughable as the Nazi head size experiments are today.
34 posted on 02/18/2005 1:27:30 PM PST by cgbg (How evil is Hillary? Let me count the ways...)
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To: BitWielder1

Ahh gotcha...my double think isn't up to speed.


35 posted on 02/18/2005 1:31:10 PM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier then working)
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To: colorcountry
So the school district in southern Utah County is having trouble finding a replacement for outmoded psychology textbooks at its three high schools.

Easy fix: just go to some used-book warehouse, or find some old closed schools that haven't yet been razed, and collect the textbooks of 40 years ago or older. The upside to this is that the children might actually learn something.

36 posted on 02/18/2005 1:33:30 PM PST by SpyGuy (Liberalism is slow societal suicide. And screw political correctness: Islam is the Religion of Death)
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To: cgbg
And, since that apparently is your profession, I want to be clear about one more thing. Caring for people with brain damage (or any other people who need help) is called social work. There is no more "science" of social work than there is "science" of psychology or psychiatry.

Calling wild-ass guesses "science" is what many people do today.

If that is what you are doing today just remember that some of us out there are on to your "schtick".
37 posted on 02/18/2005 1:34:19 PM PST by cgbg (How evil is Hillary? Let me count the ways...)
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To: cgbg

I recently took an introductory psychology class at a local college. It was very heavy on brain anatomy and biochemistry, and experimental evidence from animal studies. There was very little "touchy-feely" stuff -- Freud's theories were skimmed over quickly, with both the book and professor emphasizing that there was little evidence for most of his ideas, and that they were being covered just as background on the history of psychology. Modern psychology and psychiatry are primarily serious areas of scientific research, notwithstanding that some garbage still gets mixed in, and that the early years of these fields were heavy on wild and subjective speculation.


38 posted on 02/18/2005 1:36:23 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
That is good news that the profession is trying to get more "professional".

However, I still believe there is a big-time shell game going on here that involves the allocation of beaucoup government grant dollars and Medicare/Medicaid and private insurance dollars.

What you are studying sounds to me like "doctor stuff". :-)
39 posted on 02/18/2005 1:44:48 PM PST by cgbg (How evil is Hillary? Let me count the ways...)
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To: newgeezer
Does "lobotomy" ring a bell?

Well, personally, I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy! /rimshot

40 posted on 02/18/2005 1:46:24 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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