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Has Illegal Immigration Ruined Los Angeles Public Schools?
Frontpage Magazine ^ | 22 February 2005 | Allan J. Favish

Posted on 02/22/2005 7:37:21 AM PST by Map Kernow

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To: Map Kernow
I don’t care about the race and ethnicity of my child’s classmates. I want my child to attend a school with children who are better academic performers than her so that she can learn from her peers. I want my child’s classmates to speak English so that her English skills will develop.

Therefore, I left the LAUSD. I hope my child can graduate from the Saugus Union Elementary School District before it deteriorates like the LAUSD

Very good goals, but in this whole article, the writer doesn't mention the stranglehold of the govt. schools teacher's unions, who IMO are failing all of us with their PC ridden agaenda.

21 posted on 02/22/2005 7:59:36 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets



Yeah! ROTFLOL!
"trick question" --- TOO FUNNY.


22 posted on 02/22/2005 8:00:53 AM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Has Illegal Immigration Ruined Los Angeles Public Schools? This is a trick question, right?

Well, apparently not: see Replies #18 and 19. (I've lived in Southern California for a quarter century now, and if illegal immigration hasn't done anything bad to schools here, I must've been on somethin'...and 'm STILL on somethin'....mmm-kay?)

23 posted on 02/22/2005 8:02:29 AM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Dane
but in this whole article, the writer doesn't mention the stranglehold of the govt. schools teacher's unions,

Y'know, yer right....could that be though because it's an article about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, I wonder?

Maybe you could write an article about "the stranglehold of the govt. schools teacher's unions," and then all the rest of us who unlike you have a problem with ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION can post and complain that you didn't mention the school district's problem with ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, mmm-kay?

24 posted on 02/22/2005 8:08:12 AM PST by Map Kernow ("I hold that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Map Kernow
Y'know, yer right....could that be though because it's an article about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, I wonder?

Maybe you could write an article about "the stranglehold of the govt. schools teacher's unions," and then all the rest of us who unlike you have a problem with ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION can post and complain that you didn't mention the school district's problem with ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, mmm-kay?

Don't get all pissy. An article that doesn't mention the people who actually run the govt. schools(teacher unions, PC agenda) is like saying a baseball team is failing because of the fans.

25 posted on 02/22/2005 8:13:12 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Map Kernow
Has Illegal Immigration Ruined Los Angeles Public Schools?

Is the Pope Catholic?

Does a bear sh!t in the woods?

26 posted on 02/22/2005 8:34:21 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: Dane
Don't get all pissy. An article that doesn't mention the people who actually run the govt. schools(teacher unions, PC agenda) is like saying a baseball team is failing because of the fans.

If I put you in a classroom within which the students sopke eleven languages, their test scores would make you look like an incompetent too.

27 posted on 02/22/2005 8:42:25 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: Map Kernow

Los Angeles Mayor Hahn was on O'Reilly and he said that HALF OF THE CHILDREN IN LOS ANGELES PUBLIC SCHOOLS DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH!!!


All you RINOld & W excuse makers and apologists say "goodbye" to your sovereignty!


28 posted on 02/22/2005 8:45:42 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Map Kernow
Has Illegal Immigration Ruined Los Angeles Public Schools?

Yes!

29 posted on 02/22/2005 8:46:48 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Map Kernow
Has Illegal Immigration Ruined Los Angeles Public Schools?

The short answer is, "Yes, plus a host of other things."

30 posted on 02/22/2005 8:47:07 AM PST by Osage Orange (Hillary Clinton's so crooked...you can't tell from her tracks whether she's coming or going....)
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To: Map Kernow
"Has Illegal Immigration Ruined Los Angeles Public Schools?"

If you have to ask, etc etc etc

31 posted on 02/22/2005 8:50:34 AM PST by litehaus
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To: Map Kernow

It's funny...we have the same problem up here in Canada...only it's with Chinese immigrants.


32 posted on 02/22/2005 9:10:55 AM PST by SweetPilotofCanuckistan
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To: kellynla
Los Angeles Mayor Hahn was on O'Reilly and he said that HALF OF THE CHILDREN IN LOS ANGELES PUBLIC SCHOOLS DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH!!!

All you RINOld & W excuse makers and apologists say "goodbye" to your sovereignty!

Huh, where have I been in favor of bi-lingual education? I'm not, but the people who are not talked about in this article, the teachers unions, are.

33 posted on 02/22/2005 9:40:24 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: SweetPilotofCanuckistan

Hey I was in Mont Tremblant, Canada this weekend. Very nice I was impressed. Very coooold. Like I said, we had no language issues in my public school. It was a joke!!!!!


34 posted on 02/22/2005 9:41:58 AM PST by mgist
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To: Map Kernow

Yeah. Have a ride around L.A. at the students being produced.


35 posted on 02/22/2005 9:42:34 AM PST by StoneColdGOP (Warning: Not being an open-borders RINO can be dangerous to your FR health.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Los Angeles schools ping.


36 posted on 02/22/2005 9:49:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: SweetPilotofCanuckistan

Don't Chinese kids raise the test score levels. especially in Canada LOL!


37 posted on 02/22/2005 9:53:09 AM PST by bigsigh
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Not when they don't speak english. Many of them are sent here from overseas to study and don't speak a word of english - and really don't care to learn because the system caters to them at the expense of taxpayers, of which their families aren't if they're from overseas.

That being said, the Chinese students that are here legally, that do learn english, excel in school and definitely raise the test score levels.


38 posted on 02/22/2005 10:05:35 AM PST by SweetPilotofCanuckistan
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To: SweetPilotofCanuckistan
I have posited many times that the reason asian groups don't care about affirmative action at the Univ of Cal is that their enrollments will decrease. When they compete in a free market, they do very well.

Since some of these districts have so many kids showing up who can't speak english, perhaps they should teach those kids in english at the pace they can get it and let the english speakers be in separate classes. Asa the non-English speakers develop they could be integrated (hot-button word alert) into the rest of the classes.

39 posted on 02/22/2005 10:09:10 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: Map Kernow
In the 1950s and 1960s, the primary argument against integration of the public schools was that Negro children would bring down the educational level of the public schools.

Racism is racism, regardless of how many paragraphs of data it's wrapped in.

40 posted on 02/22/2005 10:43:03 AM PST by bayourod ("It's for the children" has been replaced by "It's to fight terrorists.")
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