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Foreign-born population in US tops 34 million
Xinhua News Agency ^ | 2005-02-23

Posted on 02/22/2005 9:54:11 AM PST by Willie Green

WASHINGTON, Feb. 22 (Xinhuanet) -- The foreign-born population in the United States numbered 34.2 million in 2004, accounting for 12 percent of the country's total population, figures released by the Census Bureau on Tuesday showed.

The number of foreign-born population was 2.3 percent higher than that in 2003.

Of the foreign-born population, 53 percent were born in Latin America, 25 percent in Asia, 14 percent in Europe and the remaining 8 percent in other regions of the world, such as Africa and Oceania.

Second-generation Americans, which are natives with one or both parents born in a foreign country, numbered 30.4 million in 2004, accounting for 11 percent of the total US population, according to the Census Bureau, which conducted the survey of 62,500 households in March 2004.

About 6 million immigrants arrived in the United States since 2000, 59 percent of them from Latin America and 23 percent from Asia. These immigrants are more educated than those who came in the late 1990s, according to Census Bureau data.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; foreignborn; globalism; immigration; meltingpot; multiculturalism
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1 posted on 02/22/2005 9:54:22 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

THAT needs to be pruned DOWN a little methinks.


2 posted on 02/22/2005 9:55:26 AM PST by HMFIC (Fourth Generation American INFIDEL and PROUD OF IT!)
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To: Willie Green

Does this include illegals?


4 posted on 02/22/2005 10:08:36 AM PST by shekkian
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To: Willie Green

Well over ten percent of the population.

That is unacceptable.


5 posted on 02/22/2005 10:35:21 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Willie Green
Instead of being blatant racists ... what if someone whispered in your ear that their views were IDENTICAL to your political views? Then you'd-be dancing in the streets! Instead you broad brush by race and assume the worst and have the audacity to call yourselves "conservatives".

You, Willie Green, are the worst. Aways bad mouthing capitalism. What you are thinking about these folks is what you advocate - government dependence, more unions etc.. If anything it is the new immigrant that actually wants to WORK for what they have and not cling to some dead, parasitic regime.
6 posted on 02/22/2005 10:39:18 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Willie Green
NumbersUSA.com's goal of reducing annual legal and illegal immigration to more traditional numerical levels enjoys broad based public support. Virtually every major poll that has been conducted in the past decade finds that a majority of Americans support lower immigration numbers. As many of the following polls suggest, what we are for is the same thing a majority of Americans are for.

more at...

http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/publicop.html

7 posted on 02/22/2005 10:53:08 AM PST by MonitorMaid (It is not freedom which permits the Trojan Horse to be wheeled within the gates...)
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


8 posted on 02/22/2005 11:14:26 AM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


9 posted on 02/22/2005 11:14:27 AM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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To: nmh
what if someone whispered in your ear that their views were IDENTICAL to your political views?
If anything it is the new immigrant that actually wants to WORK for what they have and not cling to some dead, parasitic regime.

If their views were identical to mine, then they'd WORK to evict the parasitic political regimes in their own countries, just like I'm doing.

You, Willie Green, are the worst. Aways bad mouthing capitalism.

Well coming from you, that's quite a compliment, indeed.
The truth is, I am a capitalist, with a small "c".
That shouldn't be confused with my opposition of transnational corporatism. Corporatists are not capitalists. They do not actually assume market risk as a true capitalist would. Instead, they corruptly utilize their influence to manipulate government policies to minimize risk, often to the detriment of the American People.

But there's no need to explain this to you. You've long been engaged in hijacking and terrorizing intelligent discussion of these issues with your superficial accusations of "racism". But thanks for reminding everybody, once again, what patheticly hateful tactics you'll resort to.

10 posted on 02/22/2005 11:24:04 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
The foreign-born population in the United States numbered 34.2 million in 2004, accounting for 12 percent of the country's total population, figures released by the Census Bureau on Tuesday showed.

High by historical figures, but not as high as the 14.7 percent in 1910 with the great immigration surge of the turn of the century. Back then the Irish bashing had given way to Italian and Polish bashing. That generation of immigrants only lived through the depression and gave birth to "the greatest generation."

11 posted on 02/22/2005 11:26:32 AM PST by Armando Guerra
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To: nmh
Obviously your opinion is out of touch with the majority of Americans in poll after poll. Take your attack comments (racism) where they belong...in the trash.

A government report came out in which it stated that it takes immigrants approximately 100 years to assimilate into the population (Americanize). When America absorbs immigrants at record rates without the chance to Americanize, then we have lost America and its values. IMHO, America will have a revolution on it's hands and that is what one is sensing now. Are not Conservatives fighting for American values?

How many will suffer in the world after we lose our identity?

12 posted on 02/22/2005 11:38:12 AM PST by MonitorMaid (It is not freedom which permits the Trojan Horse to be wheeled within the gates...)
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To: Armando Guerra
High by historical figures, but not as high as the 14.7 percent in 1910 with the great immigration surge of the turn of the century. Back then the Irish bashing had given way to Italian and Polish bashing.

Yes, 12% isn't as high as the 14.7% of 1910, but isn't it amazing how the 14.7% were able to assimilate without mandating bi-lingual schools, bi-ligual government publications and translators in courts and hospitals?

However, the most important past is that the 14.7% percent entered this country LEGALY and didn't become a parasitic drain on our economy and infrastructure and denigrate our communities with multi family occupation of single family homes, instant barrios and butt ass ugly murals on every available wall on commercial buildings.

13 posted on 02/22/2005 12:03:54 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Willie Green; gubamyster; HiJinx; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; ...
These immigrants are more educated than those who came in the late 1990s, according to Census Bureau data.

More educated? That can only come from the dramatic increase of illegal aliens from China (and why aren't those people considered refugees from a despotic regime, anyway?).

From The Costs of Illegal Immigration:

- With nearly two-third of illegals lacking a high school diploma, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments — not their legal status or their unwillingness to work.

- The fact that legal immigrants with little schooling are a fiscal drain on federal coffers does not mean that legal immigrants overall are a drain. Many legal immigrants are highly skilled.

- If illegal aliens were legalized and began to pay taxes and use services like legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual fiscal deficit at the federal level would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total federal deficit of $29 billion (nearly three times the current level).

CIS insured this report from last August is well linked and documented.

14 posted on 02/22/2005 1:07:45 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Unrepentent politically-incorrect Nativist who believes America comes first)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

I just wish someone will explain to me why illegal aliens can't just use their Mexican licenses? Perfectly legal in the USA.


15 posted on 02/22/2005 1:13:43 PM PST by Republicus2001 (C)
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To: shekkian
Does this include illegals?

Yes.

16 posted on 02/22/2005 1:13:55 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Republicus2001
I just wish someone will explain to me why illegal aliens can't just use their Mexican licenses? Perfectly legal in the USA.

Some States don't recognize foreign licenses.

17 posted on 02/22/2005 1:16:52 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector

How do car rentals agencies in those states rent to non-licensed foreign visitors?


18 posted on 02/22/2005 1:22:40 PM PST by Republicus2001 (C)
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To: Willie Green

Just keep out the Muslims, that's all that counts.


19 posted on 02/22/2005 1:24:24 PM PST by montag813
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To: varon
14.7% is paltry considering this Califoreignia news:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1328890/posts


"-The share of foreign-born in the state's population grew from 15 percent to 27 percent in the last 25 years, but will only grow to almost 30 percent - 29.8 percent - by 2030.


-The second generation grew from 12 percent of the state population in 1980 to 17 percent currently and will be almost 21 percent in 2030.


-The second generation is expected to account for the majority of growth in the state's work force by 2030. In the last 25 years, new immigrants made up about two-thirds of the work-force growth, but in the next 25 years they will provide only one-third of the growth. Instead, the second generation will constitute 59 percent of the growth."
20 posted on 02/22/2005 1:40:05 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Republicus2001
How do car rentals agencies in those states rent to non-licensed foreign visitors?

Beats me.

When I first started working on the border for INS (1998), the DMV had an officer at the port that would issue temp DL's and check insurance for Mexicans driving into the US. In late 1999, the DMV started to accept Mexican DL's but they still had to have proof of insurance at the border.

21 posted on 02/22/2005 2:06:30 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Willie Green

I'm a legal hispanic (married an american guy; but then divorced); I have a job and pay taxes; I'm getting a hard time to pay my mortgage and I am a active republican.


22 posted on 02/22/2005 2:10:20 PM PST by angelanddevil2
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To: MonitorMaid

Some immigrants never ever assimilate.


23 posted on 02/22/2005 2:41:45 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: Armando Guerra; F16Fighter; Czar; bourbon
And Senor Guerra,

I assume all those Gringos who constituted the vast majority of this nation aside from the Irish, Polish and Italian immigrants you so value did squat little to fight WWII.

So without the "newcomers" we would have been hapless?

If these massive waves of Mexican and Central American Amerindians are so great, why aren't their native lands doing more to keep them?

This ain't bourgeoisie Cuba or Colombia or Chile we're talking about here. These are folks only slightly removed from primitive culture and we need them to in one generation or so become an almost plurality here.

Folks that want that are nuts.

That may be racism to your tender sensibilities but it's realism to mine.
24 posted on 02/22/2005 2:47:43 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: HiJinx

Ping please.


25 posted on 02/22/2005 2:51:41 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: varon

The cultures were infinitely more similar and roughly at the same benchmark of "civilization".


26 posted on 02/22/2005 2:52:46 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: wardaddy

You know why they come here. It's like the caste system in India.


27 posted on 02/22/2005 2:54:33 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: angelanddevil2

What "hispanic" are you. Hispanic is not a race.

I know of no country in the world wherein the founding and predominate culture that founded the nation is asked to give up that position voluntarily out of altruism.

I'm not familiar with the Founder's comments on the notion that once we moved or killed all the Native Indians off the land that we would then allow those to the South (rejected by their Castillian overlords) to reconquest us.....and that we should be darned happy about it.

I don't want immigration in the numbers we have now legal or illehgal from anywhere regardless of culture or race or ethnicity although some like the Cubans for example are wonderful. I think we should also grant exceptions to Rhodesians and South Africans too since we insisted they hand over power in the first place. Other refugees as well who have sided with us from wherever (although I am leery of Muslims and do not see them assimilating...not that anyone ever totally assimilates)

Sadly, we've already taken nearly all of the best they had to offer.

I spent 16 years mostly abroad....nowhere would anyone have allowed Gringos to come in these numbers and then to have the gall to ask for preference.

I blame abortion and white guilt. A cancer of the will.


28 posted on 02/22/2005 3:01:53 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: cyborg

But that's not my fault nor responsibility and nor would any other nation on earth commit cultural suicide like we're asked to.

No one.

Limited immigration.

Let Mexico fix their own problems.

If a country being FUBAR is grounds to come here then we all better start moving and make room. USA will soon house 50% of the world at a minimum and land will go for the begging in Haiti.

There are those here who's objective is to overwhlem the gringo culture and demigraphics here. They resent us....it's that simple....that base.


29 posted on 02/22/2005 3:05:13 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: nmh
98 percent of California's increasing population during the 1990s was a result of immigration, legal and ILLEGAL. Direct immigration was responsible for about 57 percent of California's growth in the decade 1990-2000, and the rest came from births to foreign-born women.

www.capsweb.org/newsroom/media_resources/2003%20data_report.html

I think that that is a mite much.

So you can include me in your tirades. It brings back memories of the Rockefeller v. Goldwater days when the liberals and the liberals (Rockefeller Republicans, same difference) heaped invective upon the emerging modern conservative movement. The usual epithets -- you know: racist, bigot, hate monger stuff like that.

Modren conservatism survived and gave us Ronald Reagan. We'll do it again.

BTW, if you are going to rail against Californians for Population Stabilization (www.capsweb.org) please explain why they too are racists, bigots, hate mongers and other stuff like that. TIA.

30 posted on 02/22/2005 3:07:09 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: wardaddy

Why the resentfulness? I don't get it. America is a great country.


31 posted on 02/22/2005 3:17:51 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: NewRomeTacitus; Willie Green; Armando Guerra

What ever happened to immigration quotas? I remember when the Irish were held to a quota in the late 1970s. I believe there was a lottery of some sort that determined how many could come in from each nation.

Of course, that wouldn't cover the ones who enter illegally. I would guess that no one dared to try to enter the U.S. illegally in 1910, or at least not in the numbers that it's done today.


32 posted on 02/22/2005 3:18:49 PM PST by KiloLima (Political correctness is the real quagmire...)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

anyone who is not in favor of the de-gringo-izing and nay.....refuse to celebrate that is a racist, bigot or xenophobe....it's that simple.

course many but not all freepers who applaud this have their own dog in the hunt and resent folks like me (un gringo)


33 posted on 02/22/2005 3:18:51 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: Willie Green
To paraphrase Team America, the MSM portrays it as thus:

America with 33 million foreign born--- a land of flowery meadows and rainbow skies and rivers made of chocolate where the children dance and laugh and play with gumdrop smiles.

If you think otherwise you are a racist xenophobe.

34 posted on 02/22/2005 3:25:31 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: wardaddy; Willie Green; Armando Guerra

I would like to put in a good word for the Salvadoran Army, who are strong and heroic members of our OIF coalition.

I'd also like to put in a good word for soldiers from Central American countries who entered the U.S. legally, joined our armed forces, are currently deployed in our fight against jihad and are becoming citizens. There was a huge citizenship ceremony in Los Angeles just 2 weeks ago, where 2,500 people became citizens and among them were proud Marines born in Honduras and Mexico. NO MSM COVERAGE WHATSOEVER. None!


35 posted on 02/22/2005 3:27:33 PM PST by KiloLima (Political correctness is the real quagmire...)
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To: wardaddy
I assume all those Gringos who constituted the vast majority of this nation aside from the Irish, Polish and Italian immigrants you so value did squat little to fight WWII.

The point of my comment was not that Irish, Polish or Italians were of any greater value, but rather that they were considered the end of this nation in their day. One only need look at the commentaries of that time to realize much worse had been said about them then than anything I have seen here about hispanics. Yes, many others who had been here for generations contributed in WWII but so did immigrants. Just like many immigrants are contributing today in the military in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere.

I have my concerns with many issues surrounding the immigration process. The process of coming to the US legally borders on the ridiculous; Coming here illegally is too easy; Bi-lingual education is a disservice to the immigrants and delays their assimilation; and, we should better distinguish those who are coming here seeking freedom and the American dream as opposed to those who only want to make some money so they can go home in a few years, buy their "rancho" and live like a king.

The last part is really the one that bothers me when "immigrants" are all lumped together. The reality is many newly arriving immigrants better represent the ideals of this country than those that have been here for generations. I would rather sit down with dinner and discuss what freedom and liberty mean to someone newly arrived and has lived through communism and oppression and thinks this country stands for everything great in the world than a "John Kerry" type who hates everything this country stands for and would rather have us bowing to the "smart" UN bureaucrats. Allow in those "yearning to breathe free" immigrants and you can keep out the ones who have no intention of staying here or assimilating and only want to make some money.

36 posted on 02/22/2005 3:32:01 PM PST by Armando Guerra
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To: KiloLima

Thank you for posting that reminder. Many thousands of non-citizens served in the US armed forces in Vietnam, including my humble self.
I was glad to do it, because it allowed me to become a citizen of this great country, go to school on the GI Bill, and pay $257,700 in federal, state and local taxes last year.


37 posted on 02/22/2005 3:41:54 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

I remember reading a book when I was young called "We are all third generation Americans".

That means the origional migrants are still around as grandparents to the real American, who should now speak nothing but fluent English.

I don't see a lot of the current crop following this pattern.


38 posted on 02/22/2005 3:46:46 PM PST by TheLion
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To: wardaddy; Armando Guerra
"This [massive waves of innigration] ain't bourgeoisie Cuba or Colombia or Chile we're talking about here. These are folks only slightly removed from primitive culture and we need them to in one generation or so become an almost plurality here.

Folks that want that are nuts."

Exactamundo...

And far too many "immigrants" are NOT all that into assimilating and being "American" either, as had previous generations of immigration.

And we won't even go into the public dole/welfare aspect since 1965.

39 posted on 02/22/2005 3:47:59 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: KiloLima
"I'd also like to put in a good word for soldiers from Central American countries who entered the U.S. legally, joined our armed forces, are currently deployed in our fight against jihad and are becoming citizens."

Bravo to those who respect and honor U.S. laws and the American legacy of fighting for liberty.

40 posted on 02/22/2005 3:50:29 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: atomic conspiracy

Excuse me, but is the comma in the right place in that tax figure?!


41 posted on 02/22/2005 3:51:52 PM PST by KiloLima (Political correctness is the real quagmire...)
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To: KiloLima

It is.


42 posted on 02/22/2005 3:54:06 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Not to be arugmentative, but why? Why is it unnacceptable, and if so, what number would be accaptable. And....why would that number be acceptable?


43 posted on 02/22/2005 3:59:04 PM PST by Melas
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To: HMFIC
"THAT needs to be pruned DOWN a little methinks."

THAT needs to be pruned DOWN a little HELLUVA LOT, methinks.

There; that's better.

44 posted on 02/22/2005 3:59:30 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( Veni Vidi Vino Visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Bikers4Bush

This is ethic cleansing of whites from America.


45 posted on 02/22/2005 4:01:39 PM PST by Exton1
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To: MonitorMaid

As it's already been pointed out, these numbers are lower than they were at the turn of the last century. This is much hullabaloo over nothing.


46 posted on 02/22/2005 4:01:50 PM PST by Melas
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To: Republicus2001

International driver's licesnes are available.


47 posted on 02/22/2005 4:02:52 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas

"International driver's licesnes are available."

This business of immigrant driver's licenses seems a little odd to me, and an illustration of how times have changed. I couldn't drive when I came here in 1969.
Working class English boys typically didn't learn to drive in those days unless it was part of their vocational training, usually on the job.
Today, even immigrants from third world hellholes drive and insist on their right to do so.


49 posted on 02/22/2005 4:10:15 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Depends a lot on the state. You don't need to know how to drive in New York. You can get by fine without a car, and many New Yorkers do get by without cars. You can't say the same thing about DFW. Screw the privilage crap, you NEED a car here, and there is no way around it.


50 posted on 02/22/2005 4:12:14 PM PST by Melas
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