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To: ultima ratio

I don't want to get into a debate about this, nor do I intend to engage in "Papacy Bashing." I was merely asking for some information in an area where I was not aware.

There is no question the Church has problems, which disappoints me greatly. And as a former prosecutor, I certainly don't encourage sexual predation of children, which has been a significant part of the problem in the U.S. Yet many of the problems you identified within the Church are not new. Perhaps it is only that in our information age, there is more public awareness. It seems to me that many of the Church's problems are institutional. And the question is; will the College show enough courage and integrity to elect a Pope who can do something about it?


52 posted on 02/22/2005 2:19:57 PM PST by henkster ("The time has come for someone to put their foot down, and that foot is me." Dean Vernon Wormer)
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To: henkster

Wrong. These problems spiked under Paul VI and JPII. They are directly attributable to the Vatican Council which these popes have used as an excuse to institute massive changes in the institutional structures, culture and patterns of belief in the Church. Even the way Catholics worship has been radicalized and protestantized. In fact it is a wholly new religion to those who yet cling to traditional Catholicism. So to say these problems had always existed is false--they are directly attributable to the agendas pushed for the past forty years. Nothing has escaped this revolution and the results have been disastrous on every front. Neither pope had anticipated such catastrophic results nor been able to deal with them once they occurred.


59 posted on 02/22/2005 2:33:24 PM PST by ultima ratio
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