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Murder suspect had fraudulent Social Security card (Illegal alien)
WVEC ^ | 2/22/2004

Posted on 02/22/2005 4:44:31 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

Oswaldo Martinez is facing murder and rape charges in the death of 16-year-old Brittany Binger.

As it turns out, James City County police had seen him before, having stopped him for DUI last year.

Police told us Martinez didn't have a driver's license, but his brother showed up at the scene and produced a Social Security card.

Martinez went through the courts system as a first time DUI offender, got a 90-day suspended sentence and a $250 fine.

Now, nearly a year later, police have linked Martinez, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador, to the teen's rape and murder.

Authorities went back to the DUI file and traced the Social Security number given by Martinez at the time. We're told it belongs to a white man in Texas.

Immigration officials confirm they had no record of any Oswaldo Martinez, meaning he's been in this country illegally for at least a year.

Police didn't have an answer for why they didn't further question the documentation when he was arrested for DUI.

A call to the Commonwealth's Attorney, asking the same thing, was not returned.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; elsalvador; identitytheft; immigrantlist; oswaldomartinez

1 posted on 02/22/2005 4:44:44 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Oswaldo Martinez is facing murder and rape charges in the death of 16-year-old Brittany Binger.

These illegals are just here to get a job and support their families.............

2 posted on 02/22/2005 4:46:44 PM PST by stopem (Support the troops yellow ribbon purse-key-holders.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Police didn't have an answer for why they didn't further question the documentation when he was arrested for DUI.

Because they have been admonished not to. Offending a rapist murderer by questiong his immigration status, is unfair and racist..

3 posted on 02/22/2005 4:48:19 PM PST by cardinal4 (George W Bush-Bringing a new democracy every term..)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Police didn't have an answer for why they didn't further question the documentation when he was arrested for DUI.

Why do I get the feeling that if it were a non-hispanic, saying "I don't have a license" would have flown so easily. The parents of the child need to sue the city for failure to enforce immigration laws - way to many sanctionary cities who do not enforce the laws and then try to go begging to the government for assistance in supporting them.


4 posted on 02/22/2005 4:50:56 PM PST by deepFR
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
The press release from El Presidente Fox's office today emphasized that this illegal criminal alien did not enter the US across the Mexican border because Mexico has an effective screening process. Fox went on to add that the coyotes he employees to escort aliens into the US try to ensure that folks sneaking into the US, especially if they are carrying quantities of drugs for sale to the gringos, meet the basic standards required of a Mexican politician or police officer.

Fox went on to say that he believes the US treatment of the illegal El Salvadoran will depend on whether the Presidente of El Salvador has photographs of W dancing naked on the bar, too.

5 posted on 02/22/2005 4:53:56 PM PST by Tacis ("John ("What SF-180?") Kerry - Still Shilling For Those Who Would Harm America!")
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Hey, would you rather pay $5.00 for a tomato?

/sarcasm

6 posted on 02/22/2005 4:54:30 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: RckyRaCoCo

I wonder how many TENS OF MILLIONS are in circulation??? The printing presses just keep crankin'...


7 posted on 02/22/2005 4:57:53 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
We won't be holding our breaths waiting for you to post a story of a citizen who commits a violent crime, since the fact that a violent crime is committed is not really the big issue.


8 posted on 02/22/2005 4:59:06 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

This disgusts me beyond words. A young girl is dead - died horribly - because the politicians won't enforce the laws. And that lack of enforcement comes from the top down. I'd better stop before....


9 posted on 02/22/2005 4:59:37 PM PST by ImpotentRage
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To: ImpotentRage

As if a visa magically thwarts crime.


10 posted on 02/22/2005 5:00:27 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Yes,if the $5 was going to support an American citizen and his family. (I can grow my own tomatoes,etc here in the Ohio valley.)


11 posted on 02/22/2005 5:01:59 PM PST by hoosierham
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To: Cultural Jihad
Odd, an illegal alien rapes and kills a young girl, yet the fact that I posted it is what upsets you the most.

And please, I have asked you before not to post to me. Thank You.

12 posted on 02/22/2005 5:05:12 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Police told us Martinez didn't have a driver's license, but his brother showed up at the scene and produced a Social Security card.

Why would anyone accept a SSN card (or number) as proof of identity?

13 posted on 02/22/2005 5:07:26 PM PST by TankerKC (The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
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To: Cultural Jihad

You are dead wrong.

It is the exact fact that it was a vicious crime that makes it important, yes we have our own crime, but every time an illegal commits a violent crime the liberals, and evidently you also, divert attention from it.


14 posted on 02/22/2005 5:09:08 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; idratherbepainting; JackelopeBreeder; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; ...

Illegals doing the crimes Americans won't do.


15 posted on 02/22/2005 5:10:14 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

If I had been stopped for DUI and couldnt produce and documents, drivers license or valid Social security number, I would still be in that jail.

Why didnt they arrest the brother for presenting someone elses social security card.

Who runs this Police Department? Barney Fife? Deputy Dawg?


16 posted on 02/22/2005 5:10:32 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Cultural Jihad
As if a visa magically thwarts crime.

Zing!

17 posted on 02/22/2005 5:11:11 PM PST by TankerKC (The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Please point out where you have ever published a story of a violent crime wherein the violent criminal was a citizen, white nationalist or otherwise.


18 posted on 02/22/2005 5:13:23 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: sgtbono2002; TankerKC

Martinez is supposedly a deaf-mute, possibly mildly retarded, (from other news stories I read) I guess the whole DWI case was too much of a headache to be pursued dilligently.


19 posted on 02/22/2005 5:14:52 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Cultural Jihad

Don't post to me again. Thanks.


20 posted on 02/22/2005 5:16:12 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Cultural Jihad

CRIMINAL INVADERS and the scum who supports them are below contempt.


21 posted on 02/22/2005 5:21:01 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (a bullet only costs two bits.)
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To: LtKerst
Improving on your statement:

". . . but every time an illegal commits a violent crime . . ." the white nationalists shout with glee.

22 posted on 02/22/2005 5:22:51 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad

". . . but every time an illegal commits a violent crime . . ." the white nationalists shout with glee.


You and Bayourod come from the same mold and by all accounts one would be inclined to think that you're not real welcome on these immigration threads.


23 posted on 02/22/2005 5:39:23 PM PST by conshack
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To: conshack; bayourod

Come to think of it, we aren't welcome at stormfront, either. Wish everyone here could make such a claim.


24 posted on 02/22/2005 5:41:59 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad

That's a very nasty, untrue thing to say. You're one mean customer.


25 posted on 02/22/2005 5:43:00 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen
You don't think that white nationalists shout with glee whenever a violent crime is committed by a person with brown or black skin? It certainly gives them an excuse for their bigotry.

Conservatives are really big on justice, and convicting tens of millions of peaceful and productive neighbors because they all have the same skin color - or immigration status - is a crime against justice.

26 posted on 02/22/2005 5:51:24 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
As if a visa magically thwarts crime.

No it doesn't. But it is funny that with all the weak and lame attempts to harden our borders by the Bush Administration, one thing has come out of it. A crime wave in Mexican border towns. Even slowing down the influx makes a huge difference, and causes our neighbors all kinds of trouble that they didn't have to deal with when we accepted their problems.

27 posted on 02/22/2005 5:51:51 PM PST by D Rider
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To: Cultural Jihad
You don't think that white nationalists shout with glee whenever a violent crime is committed by a person with brown or black skin?

No, I don't, and I stand by my previous comment that you are one mean customer.

28 posted on 02/22/2005 5:57:49 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: Cultural Jihad

Come to think of it, we aren't welcome at stormfront, either. Wish everyone here could make such a claim.

I can't imagine you'd welcome anywhere if you write the crap that you write here.


29 posted on 02/22/2005 6:00:13 PM PST by conshack
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To: janetgreen
Almost as mean as those who condemn a whole segment of people because of the behavior of one.
30 posted on 02/22/2005 6:07:37 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Almost as mean as those who condemn a whole segment of people because of the behavior of one.

The whole group is equally guilty, because they have all committed the same crime of entering the country illegally.

As to anything else any of them may have done, that is an individual matter.

31 posted on 02/22/2005 6:53:05 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Cultural Jihad

It does if it keeps the criminal from entering the country.


32 posted on 02/22/2005 6:57:52 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Conservatives are really big on justice, and convicting tens of millions of peaceful and productive neighbors..."

"Neighbors" stay productive and peacefully on their *own* side of the property line; i.e. BORDER...

It's spelled I-L-L-E-G-A-L when that line is crossed without invitation and justifably deserves conviction when it happens.

Might try an attitude checkpoint there too.... JMO

33 posted on 02/22/2005 7:01:44 PM PST by GoldCountryRedneck (No matter where you go....there you are.)
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To: Cultural Jihad

Although any reasoning person must admit that this case is all the more tragic because it could have been prevented it only the perp had not been in this country. Illegally.


34 posted on 02/22/2005 7:02:23 PM PST by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: Cultural Jihad

No. But if the perp had been prevented from entering our country (ILLEGALLY) this specific crime would not have occurred. This is is an indisputable fact.


35 posted on 02/22/2005 7:04:31 PM PST by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: SandRat
Police didn't have an answer for why they didn't further question the documentation when he was arrested for DUI.

Now how in hell does THAT happen? Everyone knows when you get pulled over, you'd better be able to produce your "papers".

This thread is full of possums, so that's going to be my only comment.

36 posted on 02/23/2005 7:24:48 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl
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To: Cultural Jihad
Deporting his worthless a** back to El Salvador would have prevented this crime.

But, you do have a pretty sorry grasp of the obvious and it appears most of the logic circuits in whatever it is you use for a brain haven't been hooked up properly.

I've got a great idea. Let's move a bunch of these poor, downtrodden illegals into your neighborhood. After all, they're only committing the rapes and murders that Americans don't want to, right?

L

37 posted on 02/23/2005 7:31:48 AM PST by Lurker ("We're all sinners, but jerks revel in their sins. " P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Lurker

Ah, yes. "Gun-grabbing laws need to be fully enforced, for otherwise crimes happen!"


38 posted on 02/23/2005 7:35:53 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
> Conservatives are really big on justice,
> and convicting tens of millions of peaceful and
> productive neighbors because they all have the same
> skin color - or immigration status - is a crime against
> justice.

Um, pardon me for being literal, isn't being here illegally a crime? (Hence Illegal Alien) I could care less about skin color, but if they are going to break the law to be here, why should the obey the laws while here?

I say deport *ALL* Illegal aliens of all colors because that is the law. (I don't think that is a racist position, saying that such a stand is racist, is racist by misrepresentation.)
39 posted on 02/23/2005 7:49:02 AM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Cultural Jihad
If the government had indeed started confiscating guns, your post just might have made something remotely resembling sense. Since that hasn't happened, yet, your response to me is nonsensical.

This criminal was here illegally. He violated US law by crossing the border without legal authorization. He then raped and murdered a young girl. This was after LE had more than ample opportunity to determine his 'status'.

You've come full circle CJ. You profess to despise libertarians, but you've become one of the biggest 'open borders' supporters on the forum. That's a pretty key plank of the LP, isn't it?

What's next for you? Are you going to defend people who smoke pot because that's discrimination based on their 'drug status'?

Wanting US laws on immigration enforced doesn't make anyone a racist. The next time you accuse me or anyone else of being a racist for wanting US laws enforced, I'll report you to the mods and request you be tossed off the forum.

L

40 posted on 02/23/2005 7:50:36 AM PST by Lurker ("We're all sinners, but jerks revel in their sins. " P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Cultural Jihad

"You don't think that white nationalists shout with glee whenever a violent crime is committed by a person with brown or black skin? It certainly gives them an excuse for their bigotry. "

No I get pissed. That's the opposite of "glee". The only bigoted comments I've seen here are written above your screenname.


41 posted on 02/23/2005 7:55:53 AM PST by Flightdeck (Liberals see Saddam's mass graves as half full. I prefer to see them as half empty.)
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