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The Philippines Should Become The 51st State
www.useless-knowledge.com ^ | Jan. 31, 2005 | Alan Srout

Posted on 02/23/2005 12:50:32 AM PST by freepatriot32

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so what do you freepers out there think? yes,no, or undecided ?
1 posted on 02/23/2005 12:50:33 AM PST by freepatriot32
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I will never happen. I've been to the Philippines about 10 times since l967. The Filipino people are very proud, nationalistic people. They did not even want our military bases there; so we pulled out and closed Subic Naval Station and Clark Air Base (the largest Air Force Base in the world).

While I wouldn't mind it at all, don't hold your breath. The biggest drawback is the great amount of poverty there. I don't think the U.S. taxpayer oculd afford that big of a welfare bill. After all, we've got to support all of the United Nations Member Nations who hate our guts.


2 posted on 02/23/2005 12:55:35 AM PST by no dems
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so what do you freepers out there think? yes,no, or undecided ?

The complications involved in uniformly placing 51 stars on the flag would make this scenario unsuitable. ; )

3 posted on 02/23/2005 12:56:30 AM PST by EGPWS
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Not yet. The Islamo-fascist and NeoComm extremists in the outer islands need to be wiped out first. The last thing we need is for them to be afforded all the legal trimmings of our system so they can lawyer-up and get off the hook for their crimes.

Frankly, I think the Philippinos are too proud anyway.

4 posted on 02/23/2005 12:57:10 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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No way! They don't want it. They even ended US Naval bases
there.


5 posted on 02/23/2005 12:57:26 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: freepatriot32
Well, it seems that the Philippines didn't want out military there. The volcano eruption made pullout from the Philippines an easy option.

I believe the Philippines should be admitted as three separate states, based on culture and geography, so as not to overwhelm the U.S. Congress with a sudden influx of 140 representatives in the House of Representatives from one state. Each state, would of course, also have two senators.

I am not willing to give the Philippines 6 senators and so many reps, either. Talk about a power block.

What about the Muslim/terrorist issues?

I vote, nay.

6 posted on 02/23/2005 12:57:39 AM PST by Ruth A.
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Not going to happen.

The Phillipines are a free and independent Nation. In order to become a state, the Filipino people have to petition the US Congress to admit them as a state. I just don't really see this as a possibility

The US protectorates of Guam, Samoa, and Puerto Rico are far more likely to become the 51st - 53rd states.

FWIW, I see Canada and Mexico becoming US states before the Phillipines does.


7 posted on 02/23/2005 12:59:55 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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I'm fairly certain that abortion is illegal in the Phillipines.

I would not bring Roe vs. Wade there.


8 posted on 02/23/2005 1:01:01 AM PST by explodingspleen (http://mish-mash.info/)
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To: Ruth A.

Yeah, if the philippinos got 6 senators Texas would have to divvy itself up to keep up and nobody wants that!


9 posted on 02/23/2005 1:02:18 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: freepatriot32

No to the turd world!


10 posted on 02/23/2005 1:03:39 AM PST by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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What percent Muslim? What percent Christian?


11 posted on 02/23/2005 1:04:21 AM PST by DannyTN
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The United States will also greatly benefit in having the Philippines a state of the U.S. because of the rich natural resources which could potentially be developed with modern technologies.

Yea, right.

Also, the U.S. would again have bases close to communist China and other trouble spots, from which to contain any potential enemies, and some of the people of the new state(s) would gain employment at these military installations and in catering to the personnel assigned there.

Great speculation for one living in the '30's, however the mobility and swiftness of our military today renders this concern a moot one.

12 posted on 02/23/2005 1:04:39 AM PST by EGPWS
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im not 100 percent sure but i think its 95 percent Christian(mostly Catholic Christian) and 1 percent Buddhist and 4 percent muslim
13 posted on 02/23/2005 1:11:09 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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Get rid of Castro and allow the Cuban exile community to go back there. That's your 51st state.

Also Western Canada.

14 posted on 02/23/2005 1:11:24 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Senator, we can have this discussion in any way that you would like.")
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To: DannyTN

The Philippines is the ONLY Christian nation in Southeast Asia; all of Asia for that matter. It is predominantly Catholic but there is a HUGE Charismatic movement there. The Muslims are definitely in the minority.


15 posted on 02/23/2005 1:12:15 AM PST by no dems
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To: DannyTN; freepatriot32
From the CIA World Factbook:
Religions:
Definition Field Listing
Roman Catholic 83%, Protestant 9%, Muslim 5%, Buddhist and other 3%

16 posted on 02/23/2005 1:14:26 AM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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The complications involved in uniformly placing 51 stars on the flag would make this scenario unsuitable

I was just talking about this the other day with one of my friends when the prospect of Puerto Rico statehood came up.My idea for the 51st state (whatever it will be )would be keep the original 50 stars on the flag but make the 51st star be formed by the 50 so in other words when you see the flag you would see one big star in the blue field but when you look closer you see 50 stars and the giant star would represent Puerto Rico and the 50 small stars would represent all the other states

17 posted on 02/23/2005 1:16:33 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here. ok technically not a libertarian issue but i am curious to know what the members of the libertarian ping list think about this idea ?
18 posted on 02/23/2005 1:27:18 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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I think that it is a profoundly unconservative notion.

Conservatism is founded upon the communities in which we live, foremost among these are the family and the nation (truly the twin bases of society). America is a fine nation, so too are the Philippines, so too Australia, and so too (dare I say) my own beloved England.

A true conservatism loves and admires one's own country, but also admires and respects the good aspects of other countries; and should never seek to absorb them.


19 posted on 02/23/2005 1:34:21 AM PST by tjwmason (For he himself has said, and it's greatly to his credit, he remains an Englishman.)
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I'm presently in the southern Philippines on the island of Mindanao. There is a hot little guerilla war presently being waged here and in regions to the south. Casualties on both sides are high.

There are also several well entrenched terror groups living in the jungles. There is also piracy, political corruption on a grand scale, kidnappings, drugs, and poor people who would make the poor in the US appear to be rich. This area would not be well suited as part of the US. In all reality, it would make the feds go crazy in the attempt to bring the area up to a US standard. If you think the southern US border is porous, you should see this one!

The URL below is the recent DoS travel advisory for the Philippines

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_1156.html

20 posted on 02/23/2005 1:36:40 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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