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Ban of .50-cal. rifles sought in Illinois
The Chicago Sun-Times ^ | February 25, 2005 | FRANK MAIN AND ART GOLAB

Posted on 02/25/2005 8:43:25 AM PST by neverdem

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To: Free and Armed
Oh yeah? Well I can kill a man with my thumb!

No doubt. But here's the trick to shooting for real. That is to get the other guy and be able to live long enough to brag about it to your grandson 40 years later. The secret to that is distance and accuracy. And the secret (at least in my experience) to distance and accuracy is the Springfield and skill.

21 posted on 02/25/2005 9:16:24 AM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: SalukiLawyer
What's really unfair is that southern Illinois is mostly sane, and we have people in a city 300 miles away making our gun laws for us.

Yeah, but with a .50 caliber rifle you could hit them from there.

22 posted on 02/25/2005 9:24:45 AM PST by Klatuu
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To: Radioactive
when all our guns are gone.

The late and unlamented former mayor of Atlanta, Maynard Jackson, (looking like 400 lb of hog liver in a plastic bag) made a mistake and told the truth once. He said he was working for a country where only the police and the military were armed. (he was on the national board of HCI at the time) That is what the anti-gunners want. A country where you can be terrorized at will by the government or any unorganized crooks who take a fancy to your property or your life.

23 posted on 02/25/2005 9:26:29 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: An Old Marine
Rather have the M1903-A1/Unertl Springfield. Its nice to be able to reach out and touch someone from 800 yards.

Longest sniper shot in the world, a Canadian using a .50 MacMillan TAC-50 killed an Afghan from 2,430 metres -- that's about a mile and a half.

24 posted on 02/25/2005 9:31:15 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: SalukiLawyer

I would like to see the state totally cut Chicago off. If tha cesspool had no influence on the state I would move back.


25 posted on 02/25/2005 9:44:47 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: neverdem
boy everyone is getting on the band wagons these days. Do these people even now what the average 50 cal owner is like?

What a bunch of creeps politician's are. (dems especially)
26 posted on 02/25/2005 9:51:32 AM PST by 12.7mm
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To: antiRepublicrat
No doubt and thats good shooting. You're talking about that Canadian corporal I think his name was Derry or some such.

However its irrelevant to this discussion. A MacMillan 50 costs about $7,500. Properly tweaked out by an expert its going to run in the neighborhood of $12,000 or more. A Springfield .30 Caliber is maybe $150. In the hands of someone with a little practice over open sights you should regularly be able to hit a 5 inch grouping at 500 yards. Admittedly I have a hell of alot of experience and use a good scope but I can generally hit whatever I want at 1000 yds.

Get the picture? Carrying on about .50 cals is silly. There are millions upon millions of these weapons available. You can almost make an argument that a Glock or somesuch is dangerous but a .50 caliber weapon is not going to get into the wrong hands.

27 posted on 02/25/2005 10:05:24 AM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: neverdem
".50-caliber "sniper rifles,"....favored by terrorists"

And their proof of this is.....? And how many terrorists do they have in Illinois that are buying up these weapons, and using them against aircraft?

28 posted on 02/25/2005 10:12:45 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: neverdem

It's too bad Mark Alan Wilson, 52, late of Tyler Texas, did not have a .50 BMG in his car instead of a handgun.


29 posted on 02/25/2005 10:17:50 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: An Old Marine

Just talking about range, nothing more.

BTW, I recently got an excellent deal on a WWII Mauser rebarrelled and set up for 30-06. I haven't shot it yet, any ideas on what to expect?


30 posted on 02/25/2005 10:18:53 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Para-Ord.45
M1A1 is a fine weapon.The CMP used to give `em away for 50 bucks when you qualified.

No, they didn't. They gave away M-1 Garands. They still do, but they go for somewhat more than $50 these days.

The M1A is a semi-auto version of the M-14. The M1A1 would be an Abrams Main Battle Tank, IIRC.

31 posted on 02/25/2005 10:20:03 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: mbynack
We need to ban it all and put the UN in charge of enforcement.

Not a bad idea. That would guarantee that it would never be enforced.

32 posted on 02/25/2005 10:20:30 AM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Para-Ord.45
M1A1 is a fine weapon.

Sure is. But at 105mm (4.13") or 120mm for the M1A2 (4.72"), it's a bit beyond that 0.50" limit.

33 posted on 02/25/2005 10:23:15 AM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Zhangliqun

I can always rely on my SMLE.


34 posted on 02/25/2005 10:26:44 AM PST by hookman
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To: antiRepublicrat
BTW, I recently got an excellent deal on a WWII Mauser rebarrelled and set up for 30-06. I haven't shot it yet, any ideas on what to expect?

Not really. Tough to say what "hybrid" rifles will do, even fairly common ones. The Mauser is heavy but the 30-06 is a fairly hot round so off the cuff I'd say they may cancel each other out. Watch your elevation carefully. Zero in on a low target in case she pulls high (or at least make certain that you have a high backberm to the target). I'd also try and get some match rounds to zero-in. It'll be expensive but worth it to nail the accuracy.

Should make a nice piece with a little practice.

35 posted on 02/25/2005 10:29:39 AM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: hookman
an always rely on my SMLE.

Or my MLRS...

36 posted on 02/25/2005 10:56:22 AM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Zhangliqun
YUP!!!
pretty impressive!
37 posted on 02/25/2005 11:01:09 AM PST by hookman
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To: neverdem
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38 posted on 02/25/2005 11:04:40 AM PST by Dead Corpse (The neighborhood is pretty dead at night, and I'm the one to blame....)
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Posted on 02/25/2005 11:43:25 AM EST by neverdem
Posted on 02/25/2005 12:45:07 PM EST by kiriath_jearim
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What am I supposed to do?
39 posted on 02/25/2005 11:14:17 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Klatuu

I say ban the 50 cal. We all know that .223 can not kill a person or destroy an aircraft. No aircraft has ever been shot down by small arms fire.
What kind of dumb ass stuff is this?
How many times are we going to have to listen to this same tripe over and over again?


40 posted on 02/25/2005 11:30:47 AM PST by Holicheese (This is Hockey East)
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