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North Korea, Without the Rancor [L.A. Times Puts Human Face on Mass Murder- Have to See to Believe]
L.A. Times ^ | 3/3/05 | Barbara Demick

Posted on 03/03/2005 8:55:51 AM PST by TastyManatees

N. Korea, Without the Rancor
By Barbara Demick, Times Staff Writer

He arrived at the entrance to a North Korean government-owned restaurant and karaoke club here in the Chinese capital with a handshake and a request.

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"There's never been a positive article about North Korea, not one," he said. "We're portrayed as monsters, inhuman, Dracula … with horns on our heads."

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"For basic life, we can live without America, but we can live better with" it, he said.

Yet he voiced strong enthusiasm for his country's recent announcement that it had developed nuclear weapons. The declaration, which jarred U.S. officials, was not intended as a threat, he said, but merely a way to advance negotiations.

"Now that we are members of the nuclear club, we can start talking on an equal footing... "

A colleague, a 55-year-old man also visiting from North Korea [and obvious North Korean agent to everyone but this "reporter"], nodded.

"This was the right thing to do, to declare ourselves a nuclear power. The U.S. had been talking not only about economic sanctions, but regime change," the businessman said. "We can't just sit there waiting for them to do something. We have the right to protect ourselves."

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He believes that Americans have the wrongheaded notion that North Koreas are unhappy with the system of government under Kim Jong Il. "We Asians are traditional people," he said. "We prefer to have a benevolent father leader."

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The most important point the North Korean said he wanted to convey in the conversation was that his nation was a place just like any other.

"There is love. There is hate. There is fighting. There is charity…. People marry. They divorce. They make children," he said.

"People are just trying to live a normal life."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: duranty; genocide; northkorea; starvation; times; walter
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Seriously. Read this entire piece. This halfwit woman is trying to become the Walter Duranty of the 21st Century.
1 posted on 03/03/2005 8:56:00 AM PST by TastyManatees
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To: TastyManatees

"We prefer to have a benevolent father leader."

I'm sure they would prefer one who didn't starve them.


2 posted on 03/03/2005 8:58:07 AM PST by happyathome
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To: TastyManatees
"Electricity is a real problem. We have only six hours a day," said the North Korean, who lives in an apartment in a choice neighborhood of Pyongyang, the capital. "When you are watching a movie on TV, there might be a nice love scene and then suddenly the power is out. People blame the Americans. They blame Bush."

Of course they do.

3 posted on 03/03/2005 9:04:23 AM PST by JOAT
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While Westerners tend to stress the rights of the individual, he said, "we have chosen collective human rights as a nation…

North Korean Communists and reporters from the LA Times - birds of a feather.....

4 posted on 03/03/2005 9:04:37 AM PST by Libertarian444
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To: TastyManatees
I think this piece (I won't say of what) will do almost as much damage to the LA Times circulation numbers as their Ahnold sliming.
5 posted on 03/03/2005 9:06:48 AM PST by blanknoone (Steyn: "The Dems are all exit and no strategy")
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To: TastyManatees

Seriously. The North Koreans are not "like", they are UNLIKE any other regime.

http://www.hrnk.org/TheHiddenGulag-press.pdf


6 posted on 03/03/2005 9:14:10 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: TastyManatees

I still see young women lying by a wall with the tops of their skulls blown off. It is sort of a tough image to erase. Were these young Korean women mass murderers or thieves, or did they just have an attitude problem?


7 posted on 03/03/2005 9:18:17 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: TastyManatees

Yet another love letter to the enemy.

What excrement.


8 posted on 03/03/2005 9:26:07 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: TastyManatees

She's a halfwit for quoting a kooky North Korean at length? What's wrong with hearing a new, albeit skewed, perspective?


9 posted on 03/03/2005 9:26:24 AM PST by Egregious Philbin
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To: TastyManatees

... While Westerners tend to stress the rights of the individual, he said, "we have chosen collective human rights as a nation…. We should have food, shelter, security rather than chaos and vandalism. ..."


The North Korean "businessman" sounds like he would make a good Democrat.

Wasn't it Hillary Clinton who said in 1993, “We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society”?

She later wrote a book on the same theme. I think the title was "It Takes a Village Idiot". Obviously, the LA Times reporter was the sort that Hillary had in mind.


10 posted on 03/03/2005 9:29:31 AM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: RBroadfoot

The article was almost inevitable. With things in the Middle East starting to go Bush's way, they had to find the next " fatal Bush Blunder" nation, and who else could that be but North Korea.

Not only that, but Bush reversed the Clinton/Carter strategy, and the MSM will be trying to point out the "dire consequences" of that reversal until your stomach turns.


11 posted on 03/03/2005 9:39:44 AM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: JOAT
"When you are watching a movie on TV, there might be a nice love scene and then suddenly the power is out. People blame the Americans. They blame Bush."

Complete B.S. but I'm impressed how the NK propaganda man understands the memes that would trigger knee-jerk concurrence in lefty minds.

The reporter is no Duranty. Duranty was an operator, this reporter just a useful idiot.

13 posted on 03/03/2005 10:18:55 AM PST by Shermy
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To: TastyManatees

Hugh Hewitt has spent his entire show talking about this. I am surprised there has not been more response to this post. It is completely irresponsible on the part of the L.A. Times.


14 posted on 03/03/2005 5:34:45 PM PST by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Friend of thunder
The fact that the blogosphere is ripping this article to confetti shows that this despicable whitewash of North Korea won't go unchallenged.
15 posted on 03/03/2005 6:35:41 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: TastyManatees

"Now that we are members of the nuclear club, we can start talking on an equal footing... "

Blaahahaha!

Let's see you try to set it off... unless you are full of $#!T

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


16 posted on 03/03/2005 6:38:47 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (The 51st state is right around the corner.)
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To: TastyManatees; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...
I heard Hugh talk about this last night, UN-F'N REAL!!!!

Hugh Hewitt: An Outrage from the Front Page of the Los Angeles Times

17 posted on 03/04/2005 4:41:32 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: TastyManatees

wasn't Susasn Estrich just complaining about the lack of female writers on the LA Slimes?


18 posted on 03/04/2005 4:49:36 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: TastyManatees

"He said he did not want to be quoted by name because his perspective was personal, not official."

B.S.


19 posted on 03/04/2005 4:57:32 AM PST by maggief
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To: OXENinFLA
If Kim Jong Il is such a wonderful guy why won't he find a way to feed his own people?

He inherited his iron-fisted power from his daddy and now has declared the dictatorship will be kept in the family and passed on to his son.

There is absolutely no difference in the way Kim is ruling than from the Chinese emporers of the China Dynasty - all with an iron fist. (And all came tumbling down.)

20 posted on 03/04/2005 5:25:33 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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