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A speeding sedan and a close call for one Marine unit
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 3/7/05 | Dan Murphy

Posted on 03/06/2005 4:31:42 PM PST by saquin

HIT, IRAQ - Sgt. Jim Beere of the 23rd Marine Regiment Bravo Company knows something about protecting people.

Back home he's an undercover cop in Oakland, Calif., where he works on a special-victims unit tracking rapists and child molesters. He's usually responsible just for himself and, at most, the safety of a partner.

But early on Feb. 22, he saved his own life and quite possibly the lives of a dozen other marines from Bravo Company who were taking a well-deserved catnap after an all-night operation in the city of Hit.

The split-second decisions by marines like Sergeant Beere are often made in the fog of war. During the same operation, his platoon accidentally killed two unarmed Iraqis who failed to obey orders to stop. Each situation reveals just how much pressure and how little time troops have to determine whether approaching cars mean them harm.

At about 5 a.m., the streets of the city were all but deserted when a sedan turned onto the road leading to the marines' temporary headquarters in a schoolhouse. The driver began to speed up toward the Abrams tank guarding the road, so the machine gunner opened fire with two long bursts that sent the car careening into a sewage canal in the middle of the road.

The driver, who was hit three times but still alive, rolled out of the car, and marines ran over to investigate. He was a Syrian who claimed in perfect, almost unaccented, English that he'd been forced to drive the car. (He later died on the way to the hospital.)

Beere then went over with another marine to check out the car.

As the marine in front of him leaned in the passenger-side front door to take out an AK-47 propped against the steering wheel, a man lunged out of the muck in the canal on the driver's side and went for a rocket-propelled grenade launcher in the back of the car. Beere quickly pulled his buddy back and to the side, swiped his pistol from his holster, and shot the man five times. The man fell back into the canal.

Beere took a few steps away to catch his breath and, turning back, saw the man coming out of the canal again, this time hitting a "clacker" in his hand - a detonating unit for mines and improvised bombs. Beere shot the man four more times, and he fell dead.

"I thought that was it for me, I really did," Beere said a few minutes later. He says he expected the whole car to go up in a ball of flames. "The best I can figure is that he had a mine down there with him and was trying to blow up all the explosives in the car. I think the wet ruined the detonator," he says.

In this case Beere was right: the trunk was loaded with explosives. But troops don't always make the correct decisions. The marines of Bravo Company, who are finishing a six-month tour in Iraq, have fired on and killed unarmed Iraqis in cars on more than one occasion. In each case, they say, confused drivers either ignored or didn't notice warning shots and shouts to slow down as their cars sped toward Marine positions.

But with the suicide car bomb a favored insurgent weapon at checkpoints - in December, 9 Iraqis were killed and 13 were wounded by a suicide bomber at a checkpoint south of Baghdad, while in October, 16 people were killed and 40 were wounded by a car bomber at a Baghdad checkpoint - the troops aren't inclined to take chances. And their rules of engagement let them open fire if they feel threatened.

Such confusion, and the civilian casualties they create, are part of the tactic of using suicide bombers since it serves to drive a greater wedge between US troops and ordinary Iraqis.

"You feel awful when it happens," says one Bravo marine, who remembers treating an Iraqi who probably lost his arm after being shot by this marine's unit. "But I don't doubt the decision to shoot."

Marines interviewed for this story said they were willing to risk civilian casualties if it meant potentially saving the lives of their comrades.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: checkpoints; iraq; marines

1 posted on 03/06/2005 4:31:43 PM PST by saquin
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To: saquin

And the Italians can't figure out that maybe the driver of the car carrying one of their reporters did something wrong when he jammed the accelerator, ignored warning shots, and tried to run the checkpoint. That moron paid with his life and I don't feel a damn bit sorry for him. If these concepts baffled him, he had no business being over there. Put this story on billboards all over Italy.


2 posted on 03/06/2005 4:38:21 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Please leave a message after the burp....)
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To: saquin

23rd BUMP


3 posted on 03/06/2005 4:40:48 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: saquin
This is bogus. We only shoot leftist Italians at roadblocks! Because we know they have been busy getting themselves kidnapped so they can be ransomed and that makes us really really mad. In fact whenever a leftist Italian that has been kidnapped is "released" after a ransom is paid all American soldiers automatically know what car they are in and where they will be so they can be shot. /sarcasm off

By the way, if the American soldiers had wanted the Italian "reporter" dead does anyone really think she'd be alive? Geesh...

4 posted on 03/06/2005 4:41:41 PM PST by isthisnickcool (This space for rent.)
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To: saquin
BRAVO, TO THESE GREAT MEN
5 posted on 03/06/2005 4:42:03 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude (= Dems talk about the mess..,,, We fix the mess...=)
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To: saquin

The Italian communist is lucky to be alive after trying to duplicate this stunt.


6 posted on 03/06/2005 4:42:29 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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To: saquin
But early on Feb. 22, he saved his own life and quite possibly the lives of a dozen other marines from Bravo Company
They're not marines, they're Marines. Semper Fi...
7 posted on 03/06/2005 4:44:33 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67- '68)
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To: oh8eleven

Yeah, the headline didn't have "marines" capitalized either but I changed it. :-)


8 posted on 03/06/2005 4:46:34 PM PST by saquin
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To: saquin

bump for tuesday update.


9 posted on 03/06/2005 5:49:34 PM PST by newsgatherer
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To: saquin
and shot the man five times

Double double tap and a half. Nothing says "die MF" like 600gr or so of good ol' American copper jacketed lead.

10 posted on 03/06/2005 6:32:24 PM PST by Feckless
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To: HereInTheHeartland
"The Italian communist is lucky to be alive after trying to duplicate this stunt."

She said in an interview that she was acting on a warning from the terrorist when she was released. They said to avoid being stopped by the US at checkpoints because they would kill her. Since these people were so sympathetic to the terrorists, they probably believed it and so it confirms that they tried to run the checkpoint and maybe even tried to run down US troops to avoid being stopped.
11 posted on 03/06/2005 6:50:27 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: oh8eleven

Not only Marines, but for those in the know, USMCR.

A Marine is a Marine.


12 posted on 03/06/2005 7:02:07 PM PST by opbuzz (Right way, wrong way, Marine way)
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To: Kirkwood
Unbelievable on one hand but not surprising on the other if true. Our guys definitely did the right thing.

I always think about anything where our military people are involved as if it was my son who was standing there. In this case I am very glad they blasted away and hope no US military people were injured.

If this is true, this communist woman needs to tried as a terrorist.
13 posted on 03/06/2005 7:12:07 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland
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To: Feckless

Lucky for him he had a 14 rd mag. Wonder what the results would have been if he had been carrying Dads (or Grandpas) 45 ACP?

Oh well, as they say - keep stroking the trigger till the slide locks back....


14 posted on 03/06/2005 8:22:09 PM PST by ASOC
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