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The Rising Sea Dragon in Asia - 2005 UPDATE
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | March 7, 2005 | Jeff Head

Posted on 03/07/2005 9:49:24 AM PST by Jeff Head

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To: Jeff Head

Time to modernize and bring back the Iowa-class battleships. This would be a relatively inexpensive and yet effective strengthening of the Pacific fleet.


41 posted on 03/07/2005 10:28:25 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: sukhoi-30mki

There has recently been an article here indicating that the Japanese are starting to re-evaluate the structure of their navy (JMSDF) and may be toward developing a true blue-water offensive capability (CVBGs, etc.). But then again, we hear that every spring...


42 posted on 03/07/2005 10:28:59 AM PST by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: Captain Rhino

Ive read that they are working on amphibious assault vessels,but the aircraft carrier aspect is still under discussion.My own guess is they will go in for small multi-role vessels which can deploy a handful of JSFs,in addition to helos.You will probably not see the JMSDF Having real carriers till after 2015.


43 posted on 03/07/2005 10:31:41 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Agreed...but it is still a data point that would not have been entertained at all some years ago. That's all. The Chinese will try and woo and otherwise convince India to stay out of any upcoming conflict in the region. IMHO, they will offer a huge carrot as the first way to accomplish that goal.

Given our own ambivalence towards India and allowing the Soviets to help arm them while carrying on with Pakistan ourselves, we may be in danger of China succeeding in that goal.

44 posted on 03/07/2005 10:34:52 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Some very nice targets you got there.. especially the ships..


45 posted on 03/07/2005 10:34:59 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff,

Check out this board:

http://bbs.people.com.cn/bbs/mlbrd?to=65

Web site that displays anti-US sentiment. US Carriers also noted (negatively). Not good. They even quoted part of my commentary on an article I posted on FREEREP. 3/3. Their sentiments have a decidedly anti-US bluster/bravado and should be noted carefully, particularly if said comments include US CVBG. They don't seem to be a big fan of GW either.


46 posted on 03/07/2005 10:35:08 AM PST by Bald Eagle777 (No more high-tech Exports to China. None. The Clinton years were a DISASTER.)
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To: Jeff Head
Thanks for the ping and the info Jeff!!

Finished your book a few days ago.

Great story!!!

47 posted on 03/07/2005 10:35:42 AM PST by Eaker (stop and kick dirt on these n00bs actin like b00bs.......:o) - Squantos 18-Feb-05 -)
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To: Mo1

No problem. It scares me too. That's why I am involved to the extent I am.


48 posted on 03/07/2005 10:35:54 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
Sell Taiwan AEGIS and the latest PATRIOT technology. Bring them under the Regional Missile Umbrella and pointedly inform the Chinese of this. If we in anyway give in on Taiwan and allow that free nation to go down, there will be a new leader emerging on the Western Rim and the impact of which way the Taiwan (ROC) issue goes will dtermine how the pendulum swings in the entire region IMHO.

IF we sell out Taiwan to the Chicoms, THAT will be the DEFINING moment in the USA's decline as a superpower and China's ascendecy.

49 posted on 03/07/2005 10:37:52 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: lodwick; Cuttnhorse; operation clinton cleanup; Servant of the 9; catpuppy; null and void; ...

Ping for Jeff's update


50 posted on 03/07/2005 10:40:36 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: Jeff Head

Buy Chinese, and help our "friends" build even more 'wonderful toys'.


51 posted on 03/07/2005 10:46:19 AM PST by who knows what evil? (If arrogance was beauty, New England women would be supermodels!)
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Here's an interesting site I found on the Varyag Carrier:
http://www.varyagworld.com/

From the photos it looks pretty rusted. I think if the Chinese can't make money off it (another floating casino?), they'd chop it up for study.

For the Chinese to field a carrier in any conflict against Taiwan or the US, is like floating a big "SHOOT ME" target at sea. I doubt they're that stupid.


52 posted on 03/07/2005 10:49:38 AM PST by s_asher
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To: Jeff Head

Actually, I think Taiwan needs nukes of it's own. It's fine for us to say that we'll help defend them, but everyone knows that we hold elections every four years and all the Chicoms have to do is wait until the time is right.


53 posted on 03/07/2005 10:52:05 AM PST by elmer fudd
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To: Captain Rhino
They (the JMSDF) have already produced these babies (Ohsumi class):

And have agreed in principle to build these:

They are moving that way for sure.

54 posted on 03/07/2005 10:52:27 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Aegis system in China? I guess clinton sold that stuff too. The Aegis is the worlds most powerful anti-fighter and anti-missile system and the backbone of protecting aircraft carriers.


55 posted on 03/07/2005 10:52:38 AM PST by Paul_Denton (The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN! http://asiasec.blogspot.com/)
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To: Eaker
Thank you my friend. If you get the chance, please consider a review here and on Amazon.

Too many things happening that are too close to that fictional scenario for comfort.

56 posted on 03/07/2005 10:54:20 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: unkus

I have no idea. But Taiwan needs to be a part of SEATO along with Japan and Australia.


57 posted on 03/07/2005 10:54:56 AM PST by Paul_Denton (The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN! http://asiasec.blogspot.com/)
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To: Paul_Denton

It's AEGIS-like. They are using phased array radars and significant combat information to guide multiple vertically launched interceptor missiles (AAM). Probably not nearly as sophisticated as AEGIS by any stretch...but a HUGE step forward for them and a threat in any case.


58 posted on 03/07/2005 10:56:46 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

I would go for a preemptive attack against China. Obviously no one in our current government would hear of it, but better to fight them now while we can still win.


59 posted on 03/07/2005 10:57:26 AM PST by Paul_Denton (The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN! http://asiasec.blogspot.com/)
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To: Paul_Denton

The radar system on China's Type-051C & Type 052B class vessels were supposedly built with Ukranian help.One should remember that the Soviets were also working on phased array radars


60 posted on 03/07/2005 10:57:46 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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