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The Claim: Hormones in Milk Cause Early Puberty
NY Times ^ | March 8, 2005 | ANAHAD O'CONNOR

Posted on 03/08/2005 12:43:01 AM PST by neverdem

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To: St. Johann Tetzel
Pardon the double post of the same link. There was another thread from which you might have a laugh here, where proponents of PETA imply wildlife control with sex hormones.
42 posted on 03/08/2005 10:52:11 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: mother22wife21

My aunt has two friends who are medical doctors. Their daughter started to develop very early. They took her to their pediatrician who asked them if they ate a lot of chicken. They said they did and the doctor said it could be the hormones they pump into the chicken.


43 posted on 03/08/2005 10:56:14 AM PST by ladylib
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To: mother22wife21

Are the girls more developed or wearing clothes 3 sizes too small for their tubby bodies? When I was teaching jr high, I took my own little observaational pool and 25% of the girls were obese. I also know that girls wear super padded push up bras. Check out underwear at walmart when you are walking through. The undies are skimpy and the bras have 3 inches of padding in them.

I have heard that the hormones in chickens were messing up girls as well.


44 posted on 03/08/2005 11:04:44 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Congratulations to my brother in law Mike, 21st in his age group in Ironman New Zealand, March 2005.)
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To: ladylib; All
I was talking to a friend today and in passing she mentioned that she was no longer giving her daughter soy products, I asked why and she said (I think, kids screaming in background) that there was concern about ?estrogen levels?

Has anyone else heard about this?

45 posted on 03/08/2005 11:05:49 AM PST by mother22wife21 (Walking into a Gang War wearing plaid is dangerous, you're bound to be wearing offending colors)
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To: oyez

My husband and I talked about that after hearing the starting lineups at the 2 highschool football teams in our town. Their linemen were 200 to 240 pounds! My hubby was a 195 pound defensive end, 6'3" tall. He had to eat so much to weigh that much at the beginning of the season, only to lose 15 pounds the first couple of weeks. Steroid use would not surprise me now. It would sicken me to hear it, but not surprise me.


46 posted on 03/08/2005 11:09:30 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Congratulations to my brother in law Mike, 21st in his age group in Ironman New Zealand, March 2005.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
*smile* Now that you mention it, I have been amazed at the new *bra tech*, (I love baby tech,though). I also, have noticed that the large sizes really are what I would consider small-med, to med

Just on a personal, old fuddy duddy note, if my mom, dad or any of their friends, not to mention the passle of aunts and uncles had seen me dressed as a majority of girls are today, I would have been looking into the padded panties and you could keep the padded bras. :D

47 posted on 03/08/2005 11:12:00 AM PST by mother22wife21 (Walking into a Gang War wearing plaid is dangerous, you're bound to be wearing offending colors)
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To: Petronski

Human beings do not need cow's milk for excellent nutrition. Injected synthetic hormones designed to make cows grow bigger sure do have an effect on people. The natural hormones of pregnant horses are given to millions of women in this country and around the world ever year so animal hormones do affect people.


48 posted on 03/08/2005 11:12:16 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: mother22wife21

I like nut milks. I've never been a big milk drinker.


49 posted on 03/08/2005 11:13:49 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: mother22wife21; neverdem

BTW, estrogen is also a fat hormone, and I wonder if the reason why girls are maturing earlier is because many are also fat.


50 posted on 03/08/2005 11:14:47 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: mother22wife21

I am 34 and when given a year after childbirth, don't look that different that I did at 24 (I run my arse off!) and I still wouldn't wear that slutty stuff. I have 2 sons who will rue the day they bring home a girl who dresses like that. Not to mention what I would do to my daughter! LOL!


51 posted on 03/08/2005 11:15:37 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Congratulations to my brother in law Mike, 21st in his age group in Ironman New Zealand, March 2005.)
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To: mother22wife21

Yes, but I don't know if it's true or not.


52 posted on 03/08/2005 11:16:19 AM PST by ladylib
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To: cyborg
Human beings do not need cow's milk for excellent nutrition.

I'm sure that's true, but milk is a great place to get it.

Injected synthetic hormones designed to make cows grow bigger sure do have an effect on people.

I'd like to see the studies. Natural sciences are not my forte and thus I am always willing to learn.

The natural hormones of pregnant horses are given to millions of women in this country and around the world ever year so animal hormones do affect people.

I think the natural hormones of pregnant horses are selected for that use precisely because they DO have that effect. But I'm not sure that establishes anything about BGH.

53 posted on 03/08/2005 11:18:11 AM PST by Petronski (This is the Serengeti, heart of the Dark Continent, where Bar Codes roam free...)
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To: mother22wife21

Have you paid for your storm windows yet?


54 posted on 03/08/2005 11:18:21 AM PST by Old Professer (A man's conscience is like his garden, it is his and his alone to tend.)
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To: mother22wife21

One of my wife's friends freaked when the school sent her 9 year old daughter home because she had started her period. At 9 years old!

Hmm. Bet there is not any hormones in the calcium-enriched orange juice...


55 posted on 03/08/2005 11:20:54 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Petronski

You said that bovine growth hormone doesn't affect humans, and I presented an example to you of how animal hormones can affect people. Believe whatever you want but a child drinking glasses of milk every day will get FAT, not to mention all the mucus that milk produces. Why drink milk and clog arteries when a child can drink something else more healthy?


56 posted on 03/08/2005 11:22:15 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: clee1

There is a historical trend, going back to at least the early twentieth century, of the dropping of the average age of puberty. Probably related to improved nutrition and general health. Puberty used to be about 16.

A second factor may well be cultural. Early exposure to sexual stimuli and stimulation of sexuality in children can contribute to premature onset of puberty. It has been noted in the early maturation of children who experienced pre-pubertal sexual arousal by abusers.


57 posted on 03/08/2005 11:22:17 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: cyborg

Well, I'd like to see the scientific studies about BGH, I'm not aware of any. If the kid is moving around, they're not going to get fat, especially with 1% or skim, which also won't clog arteries.


58 posted on 03/08/2005 11:25:46 AM PST by Petronski (This is the Serengeti, heart of the Dark Continent, where Bar Codes roam free...)
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To: mother22wife21
Just on a personal, old fuddy duddy note, if my mom, dad or any of their friends, not to mention the passle of aunts and uncles had seen me dressed as a majority of girls are today, I would have been looking into the padded panties and you could keep the padded bras. :D

That reminds me of a visit with my great-grandmother. It was just after the advent of the pantsuit - the one with the dress-like top which could also be worn as a mini-dress. My younger sister was wearing really short-shorts and I was wearing the dress half of a pantsuit.

"What is that you're wearing?" she asked my sister.

"Hot pants," she answered.

"Looks like your sister is wearing a hot dress," she quipped.

59 posted on 03/08/2005 11:29:26 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (THANK YOU LORD -- John Kerry is still just a senator.)
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To: Petronski

You can google bovine growth hormone and see for yourself, but no child of mine will be drinking milk. Not that mass produced junk in grocery stories anyway.


60 posted on 03/08/2005 11:30:14 AM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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