Beware of Back-Door Gun Registration Scheme, Group Says

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[pageonetoo]

Credit owed to Aldous Huxley, and Roger Waters...

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Arkie2]

Even more to the point, are any of them pilots or have access to terrorist weapons like airplanes and Rider trucks? Shouldn't they be excluded from those activities before asking for their guns?

[Blue Jays]

Hi All-

"...This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow us into the future - Adolph Hitler, 1935..."

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The statement attributed to Adolf Hitler is absolutely FALSE and was never made. Firearms enthusiasts must stop spreading this incorrect story. Why this fictional quote is seen over, and over, and over is beyond me.

The people who are really knowledgeable about this vile murderous maniac and his attitudes towards firearms can be visited at Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership for a complete and thorough background.

~ Blue Jays ~

[Happy2BMe]

OK, thanks.

However, the same precedent used in 1938 bears a striking resemblence to the one used in 2005.

It's still gun control that is not in favor of the private citizen and still will not prevent or delay terrorists from obtaining weapons.

[Kenton]

Context is everything. Remember when Bill Clinton was president, Janet Reno was AG, Morris Dees and the SPLC were directing public policy and the NRA was considered by many in positions of power to be a "seditious" organization?

Remember when Rush Limbaugh was blamed for the Oklahoma City bombing? Remember when the term "patriot" was used by the left as a slur akin to "potential terrorist"?

This is a far more complicated issue than it may seem. A change in the political wind could put a lot of polifical dissenters of all stripes on the watch list.

[kimosabe31]

bump

[Happy2BMe]

Watch lists are as safe as the people who keep them.

Do you trust the government to do this? What is the government changes to a new regime you don't like. What then?

[Conservative Goddess]

Thanks for the ping!

De Facto registration .......precisely why I don't have a carry permit. I find my grant of authority in the 2nd Amendment.

[Fiddlstix]

De Facto registration .......precisely why I don't have a carry permit. I find my grant of authority in the 2nd Amendment.

Well Said!

[redgolum]

Exactly. The records are kept, so in effect we already have registration.

[Smartaleck]

Did Hitler ban gun ownership?
....see below.
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mhitlergun.html

[El Gato]

Mueller said lawmakers "ought to look at what can be done" to prevent people on the government's terrorism watch list from buying guns

Well, if there's enough information that they are terrorists, they should be in jail, where they won't be buying any guns. If not, and they are citizens, then leave them the FReep alone, in full Passion of their rights. If they are foreigners, deport them, since that takes a whole lot less evidence than convicting someone in a court of law.

[FBD]

Thanks for that info, on the false quote.
How about this one below, by Himmler; do you know if this is a verifiable and true quote?

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State." -–Heinrich Himmler

[FBD]

Here is what Hitler really said:

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so." (Adolph Hitler)

[Happy2BMe]

#34 and #35.

Thanks for clearing that up FBD. I don't need a link for it - I know they said (and did) it.

[Happy2BMe]

We both know the government doesn't need to 'register' citizens to protect them.

If the government was serious about the protection of Americans from terrorism and foreign enemies, they would close the Mexican border.

[coloradan]

I believe that quote is legit.

[Blue Jays]

Hi All-

You're not kidding about our porous Mexican border...it's absolutely absurd down there. Who knows who is streaming across on a daily basis. My personal preference is to run two parallel fences along the border 400 meters apart. The ground between the two fences would be filled with landmines.

Large, illuminated, bright, reflective, black-on-yellow, multi-lingual signs could be placed at quarter-mile intervals:

*** ATTENTION / DANGER ***

You are approaching the border of the United States of America. The fenced area contains landmines which will result in death when triggered. For your safety, use authorized border crossing areas only.

We would still welcome properly-documented visitors, but they would need to cross at appropriate areas. Illegal aliens would only need to see two or three of their countrymen blown to smithereens before they got the point that the fenced territory must be honored. At the same time, the fences would prevent hikers, animals, and other innocents from accidentally being killed.

Use of this technique would drastically cut the costs associated with maintaining our southern border. Dangerous night patrols wouldn't be as critical since sensors could simply advise a central station that a fence had been crossed...then it is a matter of replacing the spent landmine. People would be fairly warned, so I think the number of lives saved (compared to casualties from starvation, thirst, bandits, etc.) would be greatly reduced. Just tell me if I'm being totally cold-hearted here.

~ Blue Jays ~

p.s. Sorry for the slight thread hijacking... Those foreign visitors coming to our country through the authorized points of entry should NOT be allowed to bring firearms either...unless they're specifically going on a hunting vacation or entering a shooting competition.

[Happy2BMe]

It's a mess. I just don't want the government to use the war on terrorism as a premise to rob Americans of their Second Amendment rights.

Much stranger things have happened.

(My tagline.)