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The Vatican Steps In (Terri Schiavo Alert!)
Ignatius Insight ^ | March 8, 2005 | Valerie Schmalz

Posted on 03/09/2005 6:51:24 AM PST by NYer

In an unusual foray into American politics and law, a highly placed Vatican cardinal issued a second statement in two weeks in defense of the life of Terri Schiavo, saying "How can anyone who claims to speak of the promotion and protection of human rights–of human life–remain silent?"


In reaction, a prominent Catholic pro-life figure said that Cardinal Renato Martino’s second statement should prod the U.S. bishops to do more to try to save the life of the disabled Florida woman who faces a March 18th date to have her feeding tube removed.


Cardinal Renato Martino, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace in Rome, said in a March 7th statement distributed via Virginia-based Human Life International:


"Without the tube, which is providing life-giving hydration and nutrition, Terri Schiavo will die. But it is not that simple. She will die a horrible and cruel death. She will not simply die; she will have death inflicted upon her over a number of terrible days, even weeks. How can anyone who claims to speak of the promotion and protection of human rights--of human life--remain silent? Is this not a question of the right to life? I believe that I must speak out about this in the same way that I would speak of the protection of the unborn and just as I would concerning any injustice."


Cardinal Martino first spoke out in February, saying, "If Mr. Schiavo succeeds in legally causing the death of his wife, this not only would be tragic in itself, but it would be a grave step toward the legal approval of euthanasia in the United States."


In this March 7th statement, Cardinal Martino speaks with great passion in defense of the life of Terri Schiavo, saying even animals receive more protection under the law than Ms. Schiavo is receiving.


Terri Schiavo collapsed in 1990 at age 26 and suffered brain damage but her parents say she continues to interact with them. A Florida judge set a March 18th date to remove her feeding tube, at the request of her husband and legal guardian Michael Schiavo who has been trying to get the tube removed for seven years. Terri Schiavo’s parents and siblings have continued to fight for her life and to have Michael Schiavo, who is living with another woman with whom he has two children, removed as guardian. A number of legislative and legal actions are underway at the state and federal level and the eight-member Florida Conference of Catholic Bishops last week issued a statement in support of Terri Schiavo’s life.


The U.S. bishops have so far remained silent.


However, Terri Schiavo’s own bishop, Tampa-St. Petersburg Bishop Robert Lynch has garnered criticism for his approach, saying in a statement issued Feb. 28th, "At the end of the day (the judicial, legislative days) the decision to remove Terri’s artificial feeding tube will be that of her husband, Michael," even as the Schindlers continue to fight to remove him as guardian. Lynch called for mediation at the "end of life" when Terri Schiavo’s parents Bob and Mary Schindler and medical opinion is clear that Schiavo is disabled not terminal. In addition, Lynch describes the Schindlers’ fight for their daughter’s life as something within a family and describes the struggle as "the seeming intractablity of both sides."


Austin Ruse, president of the Culture of Life Foundation sent an e-mail from Rome March 8th to IgnatiusInsight.com, saying: "Of sourse, Cardinal Martino is correct and his strong statement in defense of Terri Schiavo's life stands as a rallying cry for Catholics everywhere. We look for this kind of statement from the American Bishops."


Pope John Paul II declared in March 2004 that removing a feeding tube is "euthanasia by omission" even in the case of patients judged to be in a "persistent vegetative state."


The March 7th statement by Cardinal Martino was sent via e-mail from Monsignor Ignacio Barreiro Carámbula, director of the office of Human Life International in Rome and confirmed in an e-mail from Msgr. James M. Reinert of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace to Ignatius Press President Mark Brumley.


Msgr. Barreiro writes in his March 7th e-mail to Human Life International in Virginia: "In our unflagging struggle to defend the life of Terry Schiavo this an important and very encouraging document that should receive the most ample possible distribution.


Today as we celebrate the feast of St. Thomas Aquinas (1962 calendar) I am imploring the Angelical Doctor to came to our assistance and protect the life of Terri Schiavo."


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Statement of Cardinal Renato Martino,
President of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace


Vatican City



7 March 2005

The courts have ruled again and again. Unfortunately, the deadline for the removal of the tube delivering food and water to Terri Schiavo is quickly approaching. I am sorry to have to use the word "deadline" but this is the most accurate way to describe what will happen. Without the tube, which is providing life-giving hydration and nutrition, Terri Schiavo will die. But it is not that simple. She will die a horrible and cruel death. She will not simply die; she will have death inflicted upon her over a number of terrible days, even weeks. How can anyone who claims to speak of the promotion and protection of human rights--of human life--remain silent? Is this not a question of the right to life? I believe that I must speak out about this in the same way that I would speak of the protection of the unborn and just as I would concerning any injustice.



Has due process in this case been truly served? Have all options been employed? Where is love? Where is human compassion? No one would ever wish to witness the suffering of another, especially a loved one. And I am sure that no one could ever choose to witness suffering or a cruel death being inflicted upon another, especially one who is loved. How then have we come to this point?



If it is true that the process has been fair, and that all legal avenues have been exhausted, how is it that this woman, who has done nothing wrong, will suffer a fate which society would never tolerate in the case of a convicted murderer, or anyone else convicted of the most horrendous crimes? Again, it is an issue of human rights. It is an issue of the right to life, and as I stated earlier, no one can be the arbiter of life except God himself!



The State of Florida has many laws on its books which protect animals, whether they be household pets, domesticated farm animals or animals destined for slaughter. (And please pardon me as I make this analogy. I am not comparing Terri to an animal. I only want to show the protection that the courts afford to animals in the State of Florida.) These laws "prohibit[s] anyone from intentionally committing an act to any animal which results in cruel death, or excessive or repeated infliction of unnecessary pain or suffering" (828.12). It is also unlawful to keep an animal in a place while failing to supply "a sufficient quantity of good and wholesome food and water"(828.13).

Are these laws not enforced by the same courts, are these not the same laws established by lawmakers in order to protect other creatures of God?



However, in just a few days, (if her husband and the courts have their way), this is exactly what will happen to Terri. She will be completely deprived of water and food. She will have excessive suffering and pain inflicted upon her, which will lead to her cruel death. Yet we have come to the point of asking whether due process been fully carried out and all options exhausted on behalf of Terri? This is unbelievable! Is it not sufficient enough to say that there are still questions that must be answered? We plead; we make the urgent appeal for the life of a helpless human being...a person with whom we all share our God given human dignity. How can anyone say that her best interests have been taken into consideration?



In his Message for the Eleventh World Day of the Sick (11 February 2003) His Holiness Pope John Paul II stated: "And while palliative treatment in the final stage of life can be encouraged, avoiding a "treatment at all costs" mentality, it will never be permissible to resort to actions or omissions which by their nature or in the intention of the person acting are designed to bring about death."



Palliative care, by its definition is the alleviation of suffering and relieving pain. In the last stage of life, it is this care for which we all must hope because, if the feeding tube is removed and Terri is forced to die this slow, terrible, painful death, we must ask ourselves, "And who will be next?" Will this open the door for a state to decide whether this or that incapacitated person should die...not be allowed to die a dignified death but that they should have death inflicted upon them?



It must stop here and now. The courts, the judges and everyone involved with this must understand that all of the questions involved in the case of Terri Schiavo have not yet been answered. Society must realize that we can never inflict this sort of death on a human being, on any other creature, without each and every one of us and society as a whole suffering a terrible fate.


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1 posted on 03/09/2005 6:51:25 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 03/09/2005 6:52:47 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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Terri Ping!
3 posted on 03/09/2005 6:54:26 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback; Coleus

Pro-life ping!


4 posted on 03/09/2005 6:55:04 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: NYer

This is a fascinating plea from a cardinal widely regarded as liberal. I'll bet it receives next-to-no attention in the U.S. Catholic press.


5 posted on 03/09/2005 6:55:34 AM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98

not all of the Catholic Press is liberal, so it should get some coverage.


6 posted on 03/09/2005 6:59:00 AM PST by pissant
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To: madprof98; NYer; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida; Republic; pc93; Pegita; Sun; supercat; ...
"Again, it is an issue of human rights. It is an issue of the right to life, and as I stated earlier, no one can be the arbiter of life except God himself!"

Terri prayer BTTT!!!

7 posted on 03/09/2005 7:01:41 AM PST by STARWISE (JUDGE GEORGE GREER'S CREDO: LAST RITES INSTEAD OF CIVIL RIGHTS. Greed & Greer KILL!)
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To: madprof98
I'll bet it receives next-to-no attention in the U.S. Catholic press.

You may be right ... so far no coverage by either CNS or CNA.

8 posted on 03/09/2005 7:08:33 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: NYer

Well, let's keep bumping it here. This is where most intelligent life comes for the news, anyway.


9 posted on 03/09/2005 7:12:05 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Breaking & Entering -- Isn't the *United States* our home?)
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To: NYer

Frankly, I believe that Terri's best chance is to be spirited into another state that can start over with this case. Someone, an attorney, the prent's attorney perhaps, needs to arrange for a rescue operation to get her the hell out of that state and into Alabama or another state in a decent hospital that will treat her and with courts that are not stacked with Godless judges who want to rule to starve her.


10 posted on 03/09/2005 7:15:09 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: NYer

Just wanted to post this - please don't flame me I'm just the messenger.

DAILY DEVOTIONAL FRIDAY MARCH 4, 2005

www.liveprayer.com

The REAL story of Terri Schiavo. This is a Devotional that I should have
written many months ago, I apologize. In a way, it has become a personal
test of my own commitment to the work God has called me to do and my
faithfulness to that work. I am well aware that I could easily write a
Devotional on this issue that 99% of those who read it would agree with and
stand and applaud every word. I am also well aware that if I write what the
Holy Spirit has led me to, many may be upset, primarily due to the
incredible amount of misinformation that has circulated in regard to this
tragic and emotionally charged situation. However, if I do not share with
you today what God has called me to write, then I have no business doing
what I do each day. So I will do my best to help you understand the true
facts of this tragedy, as well as the REAL story of Terri Schiavo.

While most of you have only been aware of this tragedy in the past year
since the national press picked up on it, the Terri Schiavo saga is over 15
years old. As someone who has followed it since day one due to the fact it
has unfolded in the same community Liveprayer is located, I want to give you
a timeline of what has happened in this case since the beginning. This will
be information that 99% of those who are reading this have never heard
before since you have been getting most of your information from the
multitude of organizations that found this to be a great "issue" to take on
once it became a national story, disseminating lots of false information as
facts, and of course, using it as a vehicle to raise money for their
organization.

The timeline of this story is far too extensive to put in this Devotional,
so here is a link that will take you from the birth of Terri right up to the
present day:
( http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/timeline.htm ). Several things
need to be noted. First, the feeding tube that Terri currently has is
something she has had since the day of her tragic heart attack over 15 years
ago. Second, during the first 3 years after her heart attack, she was seen
by all of the best specialists in the world who did all they could to help
her. Sadly, not one was able to do anything for Terri and her physical
condition has never changed. Her husband and parents were actually working
together for the first three years following her heart attack. Their split
came from what else, the control of the money awarded from the malpractice
lawsuits that were filed on Terri's behalf.

Over the last 12 years that her husband and parents have been fighting over
her custody, every county, state, and federal court have all come to the
same two conclusions. First, that it was Terri's wish to never be kept
alive through artificial means, and second, that she is in a persistent
vegetative state (PVS). It has been the word of her husband Michael and
several of her friends that have led every court to rule Terri would have
never wanted to be kept alive the way she has been these past 15 years.
During these many years of litigation, Terri has been evaluated by numerous
independent, court-appointed doctors. Every single doctor, appointed by
every single court, has come to the same conclusion. It is the same
conclusion all of the specialists who treated her during those first 3 years
came to, that Terri is in a persistent vegetative state (PVS) and because of
the damage done to her brain after her heart attack, there was no hope of
that ever changing.

I am very aware of the video many have seen where she "appears" to be
cognitive. Those doctors I have spoken to have told me that she has
involuntary muscle reactions that give the appearance she is cognitive, but
that is impossible since there is no brain activity. Many people were
given false hope regarding Terri's condition due to the woman in Kansas that
recently came out of a coma after 20 years. There is no similarity between
this woman and Terri since Terri is NOT in a coma. The woman in Kansas was
brain damaged, Terri is brain dead.

Over the years, her husband Michael has become a lightning rod figure. Years
ago he made the ungodly choice to start living with a woman even though he
was still legally married to Terri, and they have had 2 children together.
Whatever settlement money that existed has been long gone, so Michael gains
nothing from Terri's death. Because of his immoral choices, he has been an
easy target, but one day it is God who will judge him for his actions
regarding Terri's wishes and care.

*I would suggest that if you are really interested in all of the facts and
details of the Terri Schiavo case, you go through the 15 years of archives
at the St. Petersburg Times as well as pull up the court documents from all
of the litigation that has taken place. Especially informative are the
court transcripts of the malpractice suits back in the early '90s. The
monetary awards were actually greatly reduced from the original amounts due
to the fact they found Terri was largely responsible for the condition she
was in due to her eating disorder.

The REAL story of Terri Schiavo is about 3 issues: eating disorders, Living
Wills, and playing "salvation roulette." One of the biggest problems we
have in our nation today, especially among young women, is eating disorders.
Sadly, we deal with it daily here at Liveprayer and I have done entire
Devotionals on this bondage so many young women, and some young men, are in
today. Terri had an eating disorder. Having been overweight throughout her
teen years, Terri became a slave to "binging and purging." This is where
you eat a large meal, and then go to the bathroom and force yourself to
vomit the food up. DOING THIS CAN KILL YOU!

The famous singer of so many great songs during the '70s, Karen Carpenter,
died from this. What happens to those who binge and purge is that it throws
off the electrolytes in your body which can cause your heart to stop
beating. You have a heart attack, not caused by clogged arteries which cuts
off the blood flowing to your heart, but from what amounts to an electric
shock. This is what happened to Terri on the night of February 25th, 1990
as she had a heart attack after vomiting, and literally layed dead for over
5 minutes on her bathroom floor. Most doctors say that after 3 minutes of
no oxygen, your brain dies. This is what happened to Terri, and I pray
today that every young woman reading this who is in bondage to an eating
disorder will wake up and realize that what you are dong can KILL YOU! The
time to fight this battle and get victory over it is NOW!

The second issue is having a Living Will. Even though every court has ruled
that Terri did not wish to be keep alive artificially, and yes, a feeding
tube is artificial, this is a great lesson on why everyone should have a
Living Will. It is a legal document that covers tragedies like Terri's, and
clearly spells out your wishes. I would encourage you to contact your
lawyer and draw one up. This way, YOUR TRUE WISHES are clearly spelled out,
and you do not have to put your family through the gut wrenching choices of
what to do if something like this ever happens to you.

The last issue I want to talk about is what I call "salvation roulette." I
wish I had $1 for every person I talk to that tells me they will think about
getting saved, they aren't ready but will think about it. I also get tons
of people that tell me they know Jesus is the only way, and before they die
they will get saved. Please, listen to me right now. The Bible says that
TODAY is the day of salvation. The Bible teaches us that tomorrow is
promised to NOBODY! When you know Jesus is the only answer, and you put it
off, you are playing the most dangerous game of all, "salvation roulette."

You are hoping that you will have another chance to ask Christ into your
heart, when in fact you may not. You have no idea if God allows you to wake
up in the morning, what that day will hold. I deal daily with too many
people who felt fine when they woke up, but before the day was over they
were dead from a heart attack or some other illness. Accidents happen every
day. The reality is, you may have an accident and never have the ability to
make that choice to accept Jesus. If you know Jesus is the answer, and you
are putting off asking Him into your heart and life, you are playing games
with your eternal soul.


11 posted on 03/09/2005 7:21:08 AM PST by George from New England
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To: NYer

I don't think it is going to slap any sense into our dear Bishop Lynch.


I am very disappointed.


12 posted on 03/09/2005 7:23:28 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Terri Ping!!


13 posted on 03/09/2005 7:26:10 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: NYer

14 posted on 03/09/2005 7:26:52 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: yldstrk

Curiosity: Would this be construed as an unlawful act under FL law?


15 posted on 03/09/2005 7:34:04 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: yldstrk
Frankly, I believe that Terri's best chance is to be spirited into another state that can start over with this case. Someone, an attorney, the parent's attorney perhaps, needs to arrange for a rescue operation to get her the hell out of that state and into Alabama or another state in a decent hospital that will treat her and with courts that are not stacked with Godless judges who want to rule to starve her.

I'm with you, in fact I suggested something like it on another thread. It's time to storm the gates of that hospice.

16 posted on 03/09/2005 7:39:01 AM PST by murphE (Each of the SSPX priests seems like a single facet on the gem that is the alter Christus. -Gerard. P)
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To: George from New England
Over the last 12 years that her husband and parents have been fighting over her custody, every county, state, and federal court have all come to the same two conclusions.

You know, for a supposed Christian, this guy sure doesn't come across as the sharpest knife in the drawer. The courts gave us abortion too, so I guess that means it is ok.

17 posted on 03/09/2005 7:43:30 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: George from New England

Do you have any access CAT scans or MRI's that prove Terri is "brain dead" as you claim?

If her status of brain dead is so obvious and medically clear then why doesn't Mr. Schiavo and his lawyers trot out some recent brain scans proving this?

The real story of Terri is that her life is a gift from God and that the attempt to starve her to death has brought many, many people to awareness of the inroads that the culture and worship of death has made into our society.


18 posted on 03/09/2005 7:54:09 AM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: NYer

"Society must realize that we can never inflict this sort of death on a human being, on any other creature, without each and every one of us and society as a whole suffering a terrible fate."

Thanks for the ping, NYer!


19 posted on 03/09/2005 8:09:50 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: MarMema

I think I read he is an ex-con.


20 posted on 03/09/2005 8:39:58 AM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: Valpal1; George from New England
"The Terri Schindler Schiavo case is taking us down a completely new road in the how we deal with those who cannot speak or care for themselves," Scott said. "Once we go down that new road, it will be very difficult to turn back. And all of mankind will pay the price."
Facts about Terri Schiavo indicate her life should be saved, says pro-life leader

Ask yourself this, George ... "why won't Michael allow his wife to be taken outside for some fresh air? why won't Michael allow Judge Greer to visit Terri? why won't Michael ....."

21 posted on 03/09/2005 8:40:00 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: George from New England; MarMema

There's one little problem with your "analysis".

TERRI'S NOT BRAIN DEAD!!!!!!

Go back and start over.


22 posted on 03/09/2005 8:43:33 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: Valpal1

The main players who seek to make Terri dead and who say these things re: she's brain dead, etc. permanently unconscious, etc. are all connected in some way with those oganizations which have been exposed here .. it's a given that the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, Inc. (where Terri has been held hostage for 5 years) is part of it, Ken Goodman, Kathy Cerminara, Michael Masinter, etc. Buhsnell, Felos, Greer, the sickening list goes on:

Life Tree Chronology of the Right-to-Die - Euthanasia Movement

http://lifetree.org/timeline.html


23 posted on 03/09/2005 8:44:13 AM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: MarMema

That "devotional" was written by Bill Keller who is a nutjob.


24 posted on 03/09/2005 8:47:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: pc93
I think I read he is an ex-con.

So is Chuck Colson but the difference is Colson doesn't believe that it's alright for and estranged husband to live with another woman and have children and Bill Keller does.

Keller was snagged in the savings and loan scandal. There was a discussion on him in the daily thread.

25 posted on 03/09/2005 8:53:38 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

26 posted on 03/09/2005 8:56:00 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: George from New England

Spoke too soon.

Actually, I should tell Mr. Keller to go back and start over.

You're just the messenger.


27 posted on 03/09/2005 9:03:45 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: NYer

Waiting for an apology from Bishop Lynch and a reaffirmation of LIFE.


28 posted on 03/09/2005 9:03:55 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: NYer

Lynch should be called to the Vatican for reinstruction.


29 posted on 03/09/2005 9:06:47 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Dominick

Jerking him back to the Vatican would get his attention.


30 posted on 03/09/2005 9:09:20 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Valpal1

The democrat party is proof that brain activity is not necessary for conciousness.


31 posted on 03/09/2005 9:10:57 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I just unsubscribed to his daily devotional! No more Terri lies!


32 posted on 03/09/2005 9:11:35 AM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: pc93

there is a talk radio host named Mike McConnell who needs to be freeped. He calls himself a conservative, but he spent his whole show last weekend arguing for making Terri dead. In the past he has had a show in favor of legalizing drugs, and against the patriot act. He has also accepted advertising from CAIR, which is a front group for HAMAS.


33 posted on 03/09/2005 9:13:28 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: NYer

"The U.S. bishops have so far remained silent."


Sad and appalling.


34 posted on 03/09/2005 9:13:46 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: NYer

DAILY DEVOTIONAL TUESDAY MARCH 8, 2005

Epilogue to the Terri Shiavo Devotional. Rarely in the past 67 months of
writing this Devotional each morning do I ever follow up with a Devotional
on a previous Devotional. However, this is one of those rare occasions when
after much prayer I feel it is necessary. With over 2 million people
worldwide who subscribe to the Daily Devotional, the fact that through
forwards, hundreds of websites we have given permission to post it on, and
various message boards and blogs people post it to, well over 1 million more
read it each day.

Since I deal most days with issues many refuse to deal with, I know there
will always be a percentage of people who don't agree with what I share for
a variety of reasons and that is fine. Even if you don't agree with what
you read, I pray it will open your heart and mind to think about the issues
that are raised and how they relate to your own life. My ultimate goal each
day is to share with those who read the Daily Devotional the real life
issues we all face during our journey through life in the context of the
truth of God's Word, encouraging and challenging those who know the Lord to
be all God has called them to be, while pointing the lost and hurting to the
hope and love we have in Jesus Christ.

I knew in trying to bring balance to the sad, emotionally charged story of
Terri Schiavo while it was still unfolding, it would upset many due to the
incredible amount of misinformation that is being circulated by numerous
organizations who started using this tragedy as their "cause" once it became
a hot national story this past year, even though it has been going on for
over 15 years. Many people who have never read anything I have written in
the past, people who don't know me or this ministry, have partially read
Friday's Devotional and are circulating emails labeling me "Hitler," "an
angel of death," accusing me of being paid by Terri's estranged husband and
his attorney, being an advocate of her death, as well as the fact I will be
personally responsible for her death when she does die.

They obviously did not carefully read the entire Devotional and totally
missed the key points that were made. Sadly, they have become part of the
mob mentality this tragic story has created, and if anyone is not in
lockstep with them, you will be personally attacked and slimed. To those
who have slandered my good name and the great work God is doing here at
Liveprayer I can only say, "I forgive you."

My friend, nobody is more pro-life than myself and anyone who has read what
I write over any length of time would know that. Those who are using this
case to talk of
euthanasia are in error. The Schiavo case is RARE AND UNIQUE and has
nothing to do with the issue of euthanasia. This would never even have been
an issue only a few years ago since before artificial life support, people
like Terri were simply allowed to die a peaceful death. I did my best to
dispel some of the false information that so many who have never taken the
time to do any legitimate homework on the facts have been led to believe.

As I stated, if you are really interested in this issue, start back in 1990
and do your own research into what has really happened as opposed to the
stories various websites put out, especially the first 3 years when she was
seen by all of the top specialists available who did their best to treat her
(they all concluded nothing could be done for Terri, and 15 years later they
have been proven to be correct), as well as the court records of the
malpractice suits. Sadly, those who have been brainwashed already through
what they have read seem to have no desire to know what really happened,
instead have been whipped into an emotional frenzy by those who have a
vested interest in this tragic case.

One point nobody seems to want to address. EVERY COURT has ruled that her
wishes were to never be kept alive by artificial means. Why is that so hard
to believe that in fact this was her wish? I can assure you that in my
Living Will, if something tragic happened to me and I was in such a state I
will be allowed to die naturally and go be with Jesus. As a matter of fact,
I have yet to talk to one person who would want to be kept alive by
artificial means with no hope of ever recovering. Who would? Yet those who
claim to defend Terri, have never spoken to her, want to deny her wishes.

As a side note. Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer who has had to
rule on many of the legal issues involved in the Terri Schiavo case is a
Republican, born-again Believer, and member of Calvary Baptist Church, one
of the great Southern Baptist churches in Clearwater, Florida. This man has
done his best to make his rulings based on the evidence and LAW, not half
truths, unsubstantiated rumors, and raw emotions. The hate-filled attack
letters and emails that he has received from "Christians" for simply doing
his job is sad. This is a brother in Christ who loves the Lord and has to
travel with security to be protected from CHRISTIANS! Those personally
attacking Judge Greer should be ashamed and I can guarantee you that you are
NOT representing the Lord for doing this.

For those who did read all that I wrote, you know my main focus was on 3
issues that stem from this tragedy. To encourage those who are in bondage
to an eating disorder like Terri was to look to the Lord for deliverance,
the need to have a Living Will so that if you are ever incapacitated your
wishes will be carried out and your fmaily does not have to make those
choices for you, and not playing games with salvation. We were blessed that
this has caused many in bondage to an eating disorder to seek the Lord for
the strength to find victory over that bondage. Also, from the invitation
at the end of the Devotional to know Christ, to date we have seen over 300
people we know of come to know Christ as their Savior. God can use even sad
tragedies for His glory!

(C) Copyright 2005, Bill Keller Ministries. All rights reserved.

http://Liveprayer.com


35 posted on 03/09/2005 9:33:42 AM PST by George from New England
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To: NYer
Society must realize that we can never inflict this sort of death on a human being, on any other creature, without each and every one of us and society as a whole suffering a terrible fate.

Great article, and it's about time we started hearing from the Vatican. One can hope that Michael Schiavo bitterly regrets not divorcing Terri, and handing her guardianship over to her parents.

36 posted on 03/09/2005 9:52:35 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: NYer
"We plead; we make the urgent appeal for the life of a helpless human being...a person with whom we all share our God given human dignity. How can anyone say that her best interests have been taken into consideration?"

An excellent letter! Rome PLEADS along with the rest of us!

God Bless Cardinal Martino!

37 posted on 03/09/2005 10:03:04 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: George from New England

This guy is NOT in step with Christ. This case is about euthanasia and not just Terri.


38 posted on 03/09/2005 10:03:23 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: johnb838

These people need contacted as well... this is no longer a private matter. Is this guy in the dark ages in this case? I am going to post your piece and this one to the main thread.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-
fschiavo09mar09,0,1035127.story?coll=sfla-news-florida

Democratic leader Rep. Chris Smith, D-Fort Lauderdale, said the Legislature should stay out of the case.
"The Schiavo case is a personal matter. It's a family matter," Smith said.

Larry Spalding of the ACLU of Florida said Congress won't be under the same pressure to act as legislators in Florida, where a video clip of Terri Schiavo has been shown regularly on the news.

Spalding and other legal scholars said the federal bill would be unconstitutional. The measure by Martinez and Weldon would cover a narrow group of patients such as Schiavo who are under court order to remove their feeding tubes and have left no written instructions about how much health care intervention they would want if they became incapacitated.

Michael Allen, professor of law at Stetson University, called the bill "extraordinarily dangerous." It impinges on state rights by allowing lower federal courts to second guess decisions by the Supreme Court of Florida, or other states in different cases.

+++

there is a talk radio host named Mike McConnell who needs to be freeped. He calls himself a conservative, but he spent his whole show last weekend arguing for making Terri dead. In the past he has had a show in favor of legalizing drugs, and against the patriot act. He has also accepted advertising from CAIR, which is a front group for HAMAS.


39 posted on 03/09/2005 10:07:34 AM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: George from New England

Btw, give me a scripture where Christ says we should starve people to death. If He wants Terri, He'll take her regardless of man, we won't have to starve her.


40 posted on 03/09/2005 10:29:14 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: NYer
How can anyone who claims to speak of the promotion and protection of human rights--of human life--remain silent?"...

The U.S. bishops have so far remained silent.


There's the rub. Many of the US bishops are so out of step with the Vatican and so out of touch with their own flocks, that for all intents and purposes, they have put themselves outside the Church.

God help us!
41 posted on 03/09/2005 10:50:05 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces )
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To: Antoninus

Save Terri Schiavo's Life says Fédération Internationale des Associations Médicales Catholiques

To: National and International Desks

Contact: François Blin, MD, Secretary General of Fédération Internationale des Associations Médicales Catholiques, 33 1 34685576, frblin@club-internet.fr; or Cristine More, Catholic Medical Association (USA), 781-455-0259

ROME, March 9 /Christian Wire Service/ -- Press Released Statement on Terri Schindler-Schiavo from Fédération Internationale des Associations Médicales Catholiques -- World Federation of Catholic Medical Associations:

Save Terri's Life

Terri Schindler-Schiavo is condemned to die of starvation and dehydration unless a new court decision intervenes.

She is not guilty of any crime, except to be a burden for her husband and for a selfish society. She is not even clinically in a permanent vegetative state, but she has been refused a re-examination of her clinical condition.

The legal basis for this inhuman decision is that she allegedly had once expressed the wish not to be fed "artificially". However, her parents and siblings contend that this is not her will and that she, in fact, would follow the clear teaching of the Catholic Church about assisted nutrition and hydration. They raise the possibility that her husband and legal guardian has manifestedly abused her.

However, the real core of the problem is the attempt to decide about the right to life of a human being, not on the basis of her/his personal dignity, but on an external evaluation of the quality of life.

The World Federation of Catholic Medical Associations is deeply concerned for the possible consequences of such a precedent setting decision in the United States system of law. In fact, if Terri, an innocent person, can be condemmed to death, every person whose life will be considered of insufficient "quality" by a guardian or the court will be in danger of euthanasia performed by withdrawal of basic and ordinary care.

The importance of this case goes beyond this deplorable circumstance. It will open the floodgates to euthanasia in the United States, at all ages, without even a legislative decision.

The World Federation of Catholic Medical Associations, aware of the risks of this decision for both society and the future of the medical profession, strongly appeals to the United States authorities to react immediately and effectively to save Terri's life and to avoid the inevitable consequences.

The World Federation of Catholic Medical Associations appeals to the Bishops of the United States to mobilize every resource and influence of the Catholic Church to counteract this impending tragedy.

Following the teaching of Pope John Paul II and the evidence of medical sciences, we believe that no human being, including those in the permanent vegetative state, can be denied the respect due to a human person by provision of food and water, without which any person, regardless of his/her state of health, would be condemned to death.

Such a perversion of medicine will be the source of discrimination against other human beings, with enormous risks for human rights and democracy.

Gian Luigi Gigli, M.D. Rome, 6 March, 2005
President of FIAMC


42 posted on 03/09/2005 11:06:37 AM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: George from New England
Why is that so hard to believe that in fact this [being dehydrated and starved to death?] was her wish?

This is a Keller "Devotional"? This moron cannot see the self-evident truth. Why is is so hard for him to believe that if HE would not want to be killed in such a barbaric manner, that he should therefore treat his neighbor as he himself would like to be treated?

Why is it so hard for him to believe that the only "evidence" that it was Terri's wish to be killed at all, much less this way, came from the self-serving hearsay testimony of her abusive, adulterous husband/guardian who has a pecuniary interest only in her death? Does Keller think that such inadmissible evidence should be dispositive in a case involving a person's very life?

Minister/part-time forensic accountant Keller says,

"Over the years, her husband Michael has become a lightning rod figure. Years ago he made the ungodly choice to start living with a woman even though he was still legally married to Terri, and they have had 2 children together. Whatever settlement money that existed has been long gone, so Michael gains nothing from Terri's death."

Why then did Michael Shiavo, referring to his wife upon whom he was and is cheating, ask, "when is this bitch going to die"?

I also wonder what Keller's "Christian" explanation would be for why he thinks it's ok in the law for a guardian to abuse an incapacitated ward, or to commit Medicaid, Medicare fraud in the hospice certification, and on and on.

Minister/part-time neurologist Keller assures us that Terri has "no brain activity". I submit that Keller evinces very little brain activity himself.

Cordially,

43 posted on 03/09/2005 11:19:14 AM PST by Diamond
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To: NYer

Bumping it for a later read. Positive comments from the Vatican...keeping Terri in our prayers.


44 posted on 03/09/2005 11:46:00 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (I used to take the highroad, but the altitude gave me nose bleeds....)
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To: NYer; T'wit; Budge
PRAISE GOD! (from whom all blessings come...)

Terri remains in our prayers constantly.

If they are allowed to murder Terri, to finish the job her husband started, then disabled people everywhere better watch out. It is not inconceivable that one day, all people suffering disabilities will be put out of their miseries. For the "greater good of society". Because no one will want to "foot the bill". Because those of us who are "costing society" will have no value.

Some will say this is impossible. But the things that are going on today were once thought impossible. If you had told me when I was a child, that I would see the things I'm seeing today, I along with everyone else would have told those saying it, that they were "certifiably" crazy.

If we allow Terri to be tortured and killed, we have TRULY gone over the deep end as a society.

Someone sent me a recent link with Terri's Dad showing her a board with lights on it. I know I forwarded it to everyone in my email list. But I SADLY must have deleted it. (I don't know WHAT I was thinking). But I leave all those who love her with this. Keep the faith!

God has a positive answer:

You say: "It's impossible"

God says: All things are possible (Luke 18:27)

You say: "I'm so tired"

God says: I will give you rest (Matthew 11:28-30)

You say: "Nobody really loves me or her"

God says: I love you and her (John 3:16 & John 3:34)

You say: "I can't go on"

God says: My grace is sufficient (II Corinthians 12:9 & Psalm 91:15)

You say: "I can't figure things out"

God says: I will direct your steps (Proverbs 3:5-6)

You say: "I can't do it"

God says: You can do all things (Philippians 4:13)

You say: "I'm not able"

God says: I am able (II Corinthians 9:8)

You say: "It's not worth it"

God says: It will be worth it (Roman 8:28)

You say: "I can't manage"

God says: I will supply all your needs (Philippians 4:19)

You say: "I'm afraid"

God says: I have not given you a spirit of fear (II Timothy 1:7)

You say: "I'm always worried and frustrated"

God says: Cast all your cares on Me (I Peter 5:7)

You say: "I don't have enough faith"

God says: I've given everyone a measure of faith (Romans 12:3)

You say: "I'm not smart enough"

God says: I give you wisdom (I Corinthians 1:30)

You say: "I feel all alone"

God says: I will never leave you or forsake you (Hebrews 13:5)
45 posted on 03/09/2005 11:50:43 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: johnb838
He calls himself a conservative, but he spent his whole show last weekend arguing for making Terri dead.

Libertarian, all they are conservative about is money. Yuck, all greed no moral counterbalance.

46 posted on 03/09/2005 11:59:00 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron

Yes, while there are exceptions, most liberatarians are pro-abortion, pro-euthanasia, which is pro-death.


47 posted on 03/09/2005 12:45:02 PM PST by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife

Beautiful!!


48 posted on 03/09/2005 2:58:09 PM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: verity

People have a right to travel. It's the USA.


49 posted on 03/09/2005 3:47:24 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: verity

People have a right to travel. It's the USA. And if it was against someone's guardiansjip interest, Shiavo's, perhaps, whoever does it will, I'm certain, be regarded as a hero, rescuer, lifesaver and there will be two state's court systems, involved, then the Federal systems of one or two districts, in the meanwhile, decent medical treatment could be obtained, maybe Terri could speak and indicate her own wishes, the guardianship could be terminated, criminal charges filed against Michael, the possibilities are intriguing.


50 posted on 03/09/2005 3:51:36 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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