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The Vatican Steps In (Terri Schiavo Alert!)
Ignatius Insight ^ | March 8, 2005 | Valerie Schmalz

Posted on 03/09/2005 6:51:24 AM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 03/09/2005 6:51:25 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 03/09/2005 6:52:47 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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Terri Ping!
3 posted on 03/09/2005 6:54:26 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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4 posted on 03/09/2005 6:55:04 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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This is a fascinating plea from a cardinal widely regarded as liberal. I'll bet it receives next-to-no attention in the U.S. Catholic press.


5 posted on 03/09/2005 6:55:34 AM PST by madprof98
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not all of the Catholic Press is liberal, so it should get some coverage.


6 posted on 03/09/2005 6:59:00 AM PST by pissant
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"Again, it is an issue of human rights. It is an issue of the right to life, and as I stated earlier, no one can be the arbiter of life except God himself!"

Terri prayer BTTT!!!

7 posted on 03/09/2005 7:01:41 AM PST by STARWISE (JUDGE GEORGE GREER'S CREDO: LAST RITES INSTEAD OF CIVIL RIGHTS. Greed & Greer KILL!)
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To: madprof98
I'll bet it receives next-to-no attention in the U.S. Catholic press.

You may be right ... so far no coverage by either CNS or CNA.

8 posted on 03/09/2005 7:08:33 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: NYer

Well, let's keep bumping it here. This is where most intelligent life comes for the news, anyway.


9 posted on 03/09/2005 7:12:05 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Breaking & Entering -- Isn't the *United States* our home?)
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To: NYer

Frankly, I believe that Terri's best chance is to be spirited into another state that can start over with this case. Someone, an attorney, the prent's attorney perhaps, needs to arrange for a rescue operation to get her the hell out of that state and into Alabama or another state in a decent hospital that will treat her and with courts that are not stacked with Godless judges who want to rule to starve her.


10 posted on 03/09/2005 7:15:09 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: NYer

Just wanted to post this - please don't flame me I'm just the messenger.

DAILY DEVOTIONAL FRIDAY MARCH 4, 2005

www.liveprayer.com

The REAL story of Terri Schiavo. This is a Devotional that I should have
written many months ago, I apologize. In a way, it has become a personal
test of my own commitment to the work God has called me to do and my
faithfulness to that work. I am well aware that I could easily write a
Devotional on this issue that 99% of those who read it would agree with and
stand and applaud every word. I am also well aware that if I write what the
Holy Spirit has led me to, many may be upset, primarily due to the
incredible amount of misinformation that has circulated in regard to this
tragic and emotionally charged situation. However, if I do not share with
you today what God has called me to write, then I have no business doing
what I do each day. So I will do my best to help you understand the true
facts of this tragedy, as well as the REAL story of Terri Schiavo.

While most of you have only been aware of this tragedy in the past year
since the national press picked up on it, the Terri Schiavo saga is over 15
years old. As someone who has followed it since day one due to the fact it
has unfolded in the same community Liveprayer is located, I want to give you
a timeline of what has happened in this case since the beginning. This will
be information that 99% of those who are reading this have never heard
before since you have been getting most of your information from the
multitude of organizations that found this to be a great "issue" to take on
once it became a national story, disseminating lots of false information as
facts, and of course, using it as a vehicle to raise money for their
organization.

The timeline of this story is far too extensive to put in this Devotional,
so here is a link that will take you from the birth of Terri right up to the
present day:
( http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/timeline.htm ). Several things
need to be noted. First, the feeding tube that Terri currently has is
something she has had since the day of her tragic heart attack over 15 years
ago. Second, during the first 3 years after her heart attack, she was seen
by all of the best specialists in the world who did all they could to help
her. Sadly, not one was able to do anything for Terri and her physical
condition has never changed. Her husband and parents were actually working
together for the first three years following her heart attack. Their split
came from what else, the control of the money awarded from the malpractice
lawsuits that were filed on Terri's behalf.

Over the last 12 years that her husband and parents have been fighting over
her custody, every county, state, and federal court have all come to the
same two conclusions. First, that it was Terri's wish to never be kept
alive through artificial means, and second, that she is in a persistent
vegetative state (PVS). It has been the word of her husband Michael and
several of her friends that have led every court to rule Terri would have
never wanted to be kept alive the way she has been these past 15 years.
During these many years of litigation, Terri has been evaluated by numerous
independent, court-appointed doctors. Every single doctor, appointed by
every single court, has come to the same conclusion. It is the same
conclusion all of the specialists who treated her during those first 3 years
came to, that Terri is in a persistent vegetative state (PVS) and because of
the damage done to her brain after her heart attack, there was no hope of
that ever changing.

I am very aware of the video many have seen where she "appears" to be
cognitive. Those doctors I have spoken to have told me that she has
involuntary muscle reactions that give the appearance she is cognitive, but
that is impossible since there is no brain activity. Many people were
given false hope regarding Terri's condition due to the woman in Kansas that
recently came out of a coma after 20 years. There is no similarity between
this woman and Terri since Terri is NOT in a coma. The woman in Kansas was
brain damaged, Terri is brain dead.

Over the years, her husband Michael has become a lightning rod figure. Years
ago he made the ungodly choice to start living with a woman even though he
was still legally married to Terri, and they have had 2 children together.
Whatever settlement money that existed has been long gone, so Michael gains
nothing from Terri's death. Because of his immoral choices, he has been an
easy target, but one day it is God who will judge him for his actions
regarding Terri's wishes and care.

*I would suggest that if you are really interested in all of the facts and
details of the Terri Schiavo case, you go through the 15 years of archives
at the St. Petersburg Times as well as pull up the court documents from all
of the litigation that has taken place. Especially informative are the
court transcripts of the malpractice suits back in the early '90s. The
monetary awards were actually greatly reduced from the original amounts due
to the fact they found Terri was largely responsible for the condition she
was in due to her eating disorder.

The REAL story of Terri Schiavo is about 3 issues: eating disorders, Living
Wills, and playing "salvation roulette." One of the biggest problems we
have in our nation today, especially among young women, is eating disorders.
Sadly, we deal with it daily here at Liveprayer and I have done entire
Devotionals on this bondage so many young women, and some young men, are in
today. Terri had an eating disorder. Having been overweight throughout her
teen years, Terri became a slave to "binging and purging." This is where
you eat a large meal, and then go to the bathroom and force yourself to
vomit the food up. DOING THIS CAN KILL YOU!

The famous singer of so many great songs during the '70s, Karen Carpenter,
died from this. What happens to those who binge and purge is that it throws
off the electrolytes in your body which can cause your heart to stop
beating. You have a heart attack, not caused by clogged arteries which cuts
off the blood flowing to your heart, but from what amounts to an electric
shock. This is what happened to Terri on the night of February 25th, 1990
as she had a heart attack after vomiting, and literally layed dead for over
5 minutes on her bathroom floor. Most doctors say that after 3 minutes of
no oxygen, your brain dies. This is what happened to Terri, and I pray
today that every young woman reading this who is in bondage to an eating
disorder will wake up and realize that what you are dong can KILL YOU! The
time to fight this battle and get victory over it is NOW!

The second issue is having a Living Will. Even though every court has ruled
that Terri did not wish to be keep alive artificially, and yes, a feeding
tube is artificial, this is a great lesson on why everyone should have a
Living Will. It is a legal document that covers tragedies like Terri's, and
clearly spells out your wishes. I would encourage you to contact your
lawyer and draw one up. This way, YOUR TRUE WISHES are clearly spelled out,
and you do not have to put your family through the gut wrenching choices of
what to do if something like this ever happens to you.

The last issue I want to talk about is what I call "salvation roulette." I
wish I had $1 for every person I talk to that tells me they will think about
getting saved, they aren't ready but will think about it. I also get tons
of people that tell me they know Jesus is the only way, and before they die
they will get saved. Please, listen to me right now. The Bible says that
TODAY is the day of salvation. The Bible teaches us that tomorrow is
promised to NOBODY! When you know Jesus is the only answer, and you put it
off, you are playing the most dangerous game of all, "salvation roulette."

You are hoping that you will have another chance to ask Christ into your
heart, when in fact you may not. You have no idea if God allows you to wake
up in the morning, what that day will hold. I deal daily with too many
people who felt fine when they woke up, but before the day was over they
were dead from a heart attack or some other illness. Accidents happen every
day. The reality is, you may have an accident and never have the ability to
make that choice to accept Jesus. If you know Jesus is the answer, and you
are putting off asking Him into your heart and life, you are playing games
with your eternal soul.


11 posted on 03/09/2005 7:21:08 AM PST by George from New England
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I don't think it is going to slap any sense into our dear Bishop Lynch.


I am very disappointed.


12 posted on 03/09/2005 7:23:28 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Terri Ping!!


13 posted on 03/09/2005 7:26:10 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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14 posted on 03/09/2005 7:26:52 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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Curiosity: Would this be construed as an unlawful act under FL law?


15 posted on 03/09/2005 7:34:04 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: yldstrk
Frankly, I believe that Terri's best chance is to be spirited into another state that can start over with this case. Someone, an attorney, the parent's attorney perhaps, needs to arrange for a rescue operation to get her the hell out of that state and into Alabama or another state in a decent hospital that will treat her and with courts that are not stacked with Godless judges who want to rule to starve her.

I'm with you, in fact I suggested something like it on another thread. It's time to storm the gates of that hospice.

16 posted on 03/09/2005 7:39:01 AM PST by murphE (Each of the SSPX priests seems like a single facet on the gem that is the alter Christus. -Gerard. P)
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To: George from New England
Over the last 12 years that her husband and parents have been fighting over her custody, every county, state, and federal court have all come to the same two conclusions.

You know, for a supposed Christian, this guy sure doesn't come across as the sharpest knife in the drawer. The courts gave us abortion too, so I guess that means it is ok.

17 posted on 03/09/2005 7:43:30 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: George from New England

Do you have any access CAT scans or MRI's that prove Terri is "brain dead" as you claim?

If her status of brain dead is so obvious and medically clear then why doesn't Mr. Schiavo and his lawyers trot out some recent brain scans proving this?

The real story of Terri is that her life is a gift from God and that the attempt to starve her to death has brought many, many people to awareness of the inroads that the culture and worship of death has made into our society.


18 posted on 03/09/2005 7:54:09 AM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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"Society must realize that we can never inflict this sort of death on a human being, on any other creature, without each and every one of us and society as a whole suffering a terrible fate."

Thanks for the ping, NYer!


19 posted on 03/09/2005 8:09:50 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: MarMema

I think I read he is an ex-con.


20 posted on 03/09/2005 8:39:58 AM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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