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The Vatican Steps In (Terri Schiavo Alert!)
Ignatius Insight ^ | March 8, 2005 | Valerie Schmalz

Posted on 03/09/2005 6:51:24 AM PST by NYer

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To: Valpal1; George from New England
"The Terri Schindler Schiavo case is taking us down a completely new road in the how we deal with those who cannot speak or care for themselves," Scott said. "Once we go down that new road, it will be very difficult to turn back. And all of mankind will pay the price."
Facts about Terri Schiavo indicate her life should be saved, says pro-life leader

Ask yourself this, George ... "why won't Michael allow his wife to be taken outside for some fresh air? why won't Michael allow Judge Greer to visit Terri? why won't Michael ....."

21 posted on 03/09/2005 8:40:00 AM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: George from New England; MarMema

There's one little problem with your "analysis".

TERRI'S NOT BRAIN DEAD!!!!!!

Go back and start over.


22 posted on 03/09/2005 8:43:33 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: Valpal1

The main players who seek to make Terri dead and who say these things re: she's brain dead, etc. permanently unconscious, etc. are all connected in some way with those oganizations which have been exposed here .. it's a given that the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, Inc. (where Terri has been held hostage for 5 years) is part of it, Ken Goodman, Kathy Cerminara, Michael Masinter, etc. Buhsnell, Felos, Greer, the sickening list goes on:

Life Tree Chronology of the Right-to-Die - Euthanasia Movement

http://lifetree.org/timeline.html


23 posted on 03/09/2005 8:44:13 AM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: MarMema

That "devotional" was written by Bill Keller who is a nutjob.


24 posted on 03/09/2005 8:47:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: pc93
I think I read he is an ex-con.

So is Chuck Colson but the difference is Colson doesn't believe that it's alright for and estranged husband to live with another woman and have children and Bill Keller does.

Keller was snagged in the savings and loan scandal. There was a discussion on him in the daily thread.

25 posted on 03/09/2005 8:53:38 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

26 posted on 03/09/2005 8:56:00 AM PST by Mr. Silverback ('Cow Tipping', a game the whole family can play!)
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To: George from New England

Spoke too soon.

Actually, I should tell Mr. Keller to go back and start over.

You're just the messenger.


27 posted on 03/09/2005 9:03:45 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: NYer

Waiting for an apology from Bishop Lynch and a reaffirmation of LIFE.


28 posted on 03/09/2005 9:03:55 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: NYer

Lynch should be called to the Vatican for reinstruction.


29 posted on 03/09/2005 9:06:47 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Dominick

Jerking him back to the Vatican would get his attention.


30 posted on 03/09/2005 9:09:20 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Valpal1

The democrat party is proof that brain activity is not necessary for conciousness.


31 posted on 03/09/2005 9:10:57 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I just unsubscribed to his daily devotional! No more Terri lies!


32 posted on 03/09/2005 9:11:35 AM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: pc93

there is a talk radio host named Mike McConnell who needs to be freeped. He calls himself a conservative, but he spent his whole show last weekend arguing for making Terri dead. In the past he has had a show in favor of legalizing drugs, and against the patriot act. He has also accepted advertising from CAIR, which is a front group for HAMAS.


33 posted on 03/09/2005 9:13:28 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: NYer

"The U.S. bishops have so far remained silent."


Sad and appalling.


34 posted on 03/09/2005 9:13:46 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: NYer

DAILY DEVOTIONAL TUESDAY MARCH 8, 2005

Epilogue to the Terri Shiavo Devotional. Rarely in the past 67 months of
writing this Devotional each morning do I ever follow up with a Devotional
on a previous Devotional. However, this is one of those rare occasions when
after much prayer I feel it is necessary. With over 2 million people
worldwide who subscribe to the Daily Devotional, the fact that through
forwards, hundreds of websites we have given permission to post it on, and
various message boards and blogs people post it to, well over 1 million more
read it each day.

Since I deal most days with issues many refuse to deal with, I know there
will always be a percentage of people who don't agree with what I share for
a variety of reasons and that is fine. Even if you don't agree with what
you read, I pray it will open your heart and mind to think about the issues
that are raised and how they relate to your own life. My ultimate goal each
day is to share with those who read the Daily Devotional the real life
issues we all face during our journey through life in the context of the
truth of God's Word, encouraging and challenging those who know the Lord to
be all God has called them to be, while pointing the lost and hurting to the
hope and love we have in Jesus Christ.

I knew in trying to bring balance to the sad, emotionally charged story of
Terri Schiavo while it was still unfolding, it would upset many due to the
incredible amount of misinformation that is being circulated by numerous
organizations who started using this tragedy as their "cause" once it became
a hot national story this past year, even though it has been going on for
over 15 years. Many people who have never read anything I have written in
the past, people who don't know me or this ministry, have partially read
Friday's Devotional and are circulating emails labeling me "Hitler," "an
angel of death," accusing me of being paid by Terri's estranged husband and
his attorney, being an advocate of her death, as well as the fact I will be
personally responsible for her death when she does die.

They obviously did not carefully read the entire Devotional and totally
missed the key points that were made. Sadly, they have become part of the
mob mentality this tragic story has created, and if anyone is not in
lockstep with them, you will be personally attacked and slimed. To those
who have slandered my good name and the great work God is doing here at
Liveprayer I can only say, "I forgive you."

My friend, nobody is more pro-life than myself and anyone who has read what
I write over any length of time would know that. Those who are using this
case to talk of
euthanasia are in error. The Schiavo case is RARE AND UNIQUE and has
nothing to do with the issue of euthanasia. This would never even have been
an issue only a few years ago since before artificial life support, people
like Terri were simply allowed to die a peaceful death. I did my best to
dispel some of the false information that so many who have never taken the
time to do any legitimate homework on the facts have been led to believe.

As I stated, if you are really interested in this issue, start back in 1990
and do your own research into what has really happened as opposed to the
stories various websites put out, especially the first 3 years when she was
seen by all of the top specialists available who did their best to treat her
(they all concluded nothing could be done for Terri, and 15 years later they
have been proven to be correct), as well as the court records of the
malpractice suits. Sadly, those who have been brainwashed already through
what they have read seem to have no desire to know what really happened,
instead have been whipped into an emotional frenzy by those who have a
vested interest in this tragic case.

One point nobody seems to want to address. EVERY COURT has ruled that her
wishes were to never be kept alive by artificial means. Why is that so hard
to believe that in fact this was her wish? I can assure you that in my
Living Will, if something tragic happened to me and I was in such a state I
will be allowed to die naturally and go be with Jesus. As a matter of fact,
I have yet to talk to one person who would want to be kept alive by
artificial means with no hope of ever recovering. Who would? Yet those who
claim to defend Terri, have never spoken to her, want to deny her wishes.

As a side note. Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George W. Greer who has had to
rule on many of the legal issues involved in the Terri Schiavo case is a
Republican, born-again Believer, and member of Calvary Baptist Church, one
of the great Southern Baptist churches in Clearwater, Florida. This man has
done his best to make his rulings based on the evidence and LAW, not half
truths, unsubstantiated rumors, and raw emotions. The hate-filled attack
letters and emails that he has received from "Christians" for simply doing
his job is sad. This is a brother in Christ who loves the Lord and has to
travel with security to be protected from CHRISTIANS! Those personally
attacking Judge Greer should be ashamed and I can guarantee you that you are
NOT representing the Lord for doing this.

For those who did read all that I wrote, you know my main focus was on 3
issues that stem from this tragedy. To encourage those who are in bondage
to an eating disorder like Terri was to look to the Lord for deliverance,
the need to have a Living Will so that if you are ever incapacitated your
wishes will be carried out and your fmaily does not have to make those
choices for you, and not playing games with salvation. We were blessed that
this has caused many in bondage to an eating disorder to seek the Lord for
the strength to find victory over that bondage. Also, from the invitation
at the end of the Devotional to know Christ, to date we have seen over 300
people we know of come to know Christ as their Savior. God can use even sad
tragedies for His glory!

(C) Copyright 2005, Bill Keller Ministries. All rights reserved.

http://Liveprayer.com


35 posted on 03/09/2005 9:33:42 AM PST by George from New England
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To: NYer
Society must realize that we can never inflict this sort of death on a human being, on any other creature, without each and every one of us and society as a whole suffering a terrible fate.

Great article, and it's about time we started hearing from the Vatican. One can hope that Michael Schiavo bitterly regrets not divorcing Terri, and handing her guardianship over to her parents.

36 posted on 03/09/2005 9:52:35 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: NYer
"We plead; we make the urgent appeal for the life of a helpless human being...a person with whom we all share our God given human dignity. How can anyone say that her best interests have been taken into consideration?"

An excellent letter! Rome PLEADS along with the rest of us!

God Bless Cardinal Martino!

37 posted on 03/09/2005 10:03:04 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: George from New England

This guy is NOT in step with Christ. This case is about euthanasia and not just Terri.


38 posted on 03/09/2005 10:03:23 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: johnb838

These people need contacted as well... this is no longer a private matter. Is this guy in the dark ages in this case? I am going to post your piece and this one to the main thread.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-
fschiavo09mar09,0,1035127.story?coll=sfla-news-florida

Democratic leader Rep. Chris Smith, D-Fort Lauderdale, said the Legislature should stay out of the case.
"The Schiavo case is a personal matter. It's a family matter," Smith said.

Larry Spalding of the ACLU of Florida said Congress won't be under the same pressure to act as legislators in Florida, where a video clip of Terri Schiavo has been shown regularly on the news.

Spalding and other legal scholars said the federal bill would be unconstitutional. The measure by Martinez and Weldon would cover a narrow group of patients such as Schiavo who are under court order to remove their feeding tubes and have left no written instructions about how much health care intervention they would want if they became incapacitated.

Michael Allen, professor of law at Stetson University, called the bill "extraordinarily dangerous." It impinges on state rights by allowing lower federal courts to second guess decisions by the Supreme Court of Florida, or other states in different cases.

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there is a talk radio host named Mike McConnell who needs to be freeped. He calls himself a conservative, but he spent his whole show last weekend arguing for making Terri dead. In the past he has had a show in favor of legalizing drugs, and against the patriot act. He has also accepted advertising from CAIR, which is a front group for HAMAS.


39 posted on 03/09/2005 10:07:34 AM PST by pc93 (http://www.blogsforterri.com)
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To: George from New England

Btw, give me a scripture where Christ says we should starve people to death. If He wants Terri, He'll take her regardless of man, we won't have to starve her.


40 posted on 03/09/2005 10:29:14 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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