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Fulton Co. Judge shot and killed in courthouse shooting (BREAKING Fri 9A)
WAGA-TV/WSB-TV Atlanta | 3.11.05

Posted on 03/11/2005 6:39:06 AM PST by mhking

This is a breaking news situation.

A man entered a courtroom in the Fulton County Courthouse this morning and shot a Fulton County Sheriff's deputy, a clerk and a judge; there are reports from both WSB and WAGA, the judge is deceased.

The perp has carjacked multiple vehicles -- now on his third -- and is still at large.

I've just come from downtown Atlanta, and the city is a madhouse.


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To: Petronski

Be hard to do any worse..


2,941 posted on 03/11/2005 4:15:11 PM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

FYI..8PM EST...


2,942 posted on 03/11/2005 4:16:06 PM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: Dead Corpse

Good point.

Muzzle velocities and muzzle energies vary from round to round in all calibers.


2,943 posted on 03/11/2005 4:16:14 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Hoboto
My guess is that the suspect drove to a remote area and killed himself with a self-inflicted gun shot wound. Sort of like Mark Barton from a few years back.

Today's events have caused me to think about the situation several years ago with the day trader, but I couldn't recall his name. Was that Mark Barton?

2,944 posted on 03/11/2005 4:16:36 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue
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To: cajungirl
"She went in the cell alone and that is not what is supposed to happen"

Exactly. Not only was she overpowered and deprived of her weapon, but she broke procedure as well. Why didn't she just hand him a hacksaw and save herself some trouble?

2,945 posted on 03/11/2005 4:17:24 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: ken5050

I'm back -- traffic seemed to be loosening up a bit downtown when I came out from down there. But the police presence is all over the place.


2,946 posted on 03/11/2005 4:17:41 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: Dead Corpse

If you can't hit effectively with it, it doesn't matter what caliber you carry. I hit competently with a 1911, but I'm far more accurate with the 9mm Browning HP.

A miss with a .50BMG is a lot less effective than a .25ACP through an eye socket.


2,947 posted on 03/11/2005 4:17:58 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: MOgirl

If that's true..then the sherriff's office screwed the pooch big time..the guy shold have had the three biggest deputies they have escorting him at all times..


2,948 posted on 03/11/2005 4:18:03 PM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: RedWhiteBlue

How many guns does he have? Other then the escort's gun, did he take anyone elses that he shot?


2,949 posted on 03/11/2005 4:19:01 PM PST by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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To: RedWhiteBlue
Today's events have caused me to think about the situation several years ago with the day trader, but I couldn't recall his name. Was that Mark Barton?

Yep. That wacko killed his family first, killed several other daytraders at his Atlanta Office and finally killed himself a few miles from where I used to live.
2,950 posted on 03/11/2005 4:19:29 PM PST by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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To: conservativeinferno

Still unsure at this time.


2,951 posted on 03/11/2005 4:19:51 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Don't let us get sick, Don't let us get old, Don't let us get stupid, Alright.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Hear, hear! I agree completely.


2,952 posted on 03/11/2005 4:20:31 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opium of the activist wacko.)
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To: BenLurkin
"I suspect the killer may have a sick hatred of women."

Ya think so? A rapist who kidnaps and sodomizes a woman?

2,953 posted on 03/11/2005 4:21:12 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

I'm not quarreling with anybody.


2,954 posted on 03/11/2005 4:21:12 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opium of the activist wacko.)
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To: An American In Dairyland

Thank you for some common sense...Some of the reporters were yelling questions that were pretty un PC there...yet they were ducked..If it was indeed just the one female deputy with the prisoner..hell..if she was careless enough to let him get that close that he could grab her gun..well..here's my theory....they mentioned that she had some severe facial damage..they thought from falling after being shot...BS....my take is he grabbed her..smashed her face into the wall or florr, THEN took her gun..


2,955 posted on 03/11/2005 4:21:30 PM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: Morty2005
" Fulton County assistant district attorney Gayle Abramson, right, is led away from a news conference by an unidentified woman Friday, March 11, 2005 in Atlanta. A defendant in a rape trial Abramson was prosecuting shot and killed Superior Court Judge Rowland Barnes, his court reporter and a Fulton County deputy according officials." (AP Photo/John Bazemore)
2,956 posted on 03/11/2005 4:22:00 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Bonaparte

I don't think she meant for this to happen. I think she, like many people, broke a rule that she was casual about.

Why, I don't know. Maybe someone went out for coffee or something and rather than make him wait, she went in. Maybe he had been very nice and pleasant.

Who knows but I am not going to pile on her, she got a GSW to the head and will have to live with dead people because of this.


2,957 posted on 03/11/2005 4:22:13 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: retrokitten
No, what I think most people are getting at is that this perp was accused of a very violent crime and last week was caught trying to bring a shiv into the court room and was not restrained in any way as not to give the jury an impression that he is guilty.

Of course it turns out that is not the situation in this case. He being removed from his holding cell when he overpowered the deputy and got her gun. Most jails do not allow firearms in the cell area, for just this reason. The "exterior" guards are well armed of course, sometimes with machine guns of one sort or another.

Of course that brings up the question why a single female officer was bringing this scrote over from the holding cell, and not at least two officers, maybe three. He could have been shackled until just before they walked him in to the courtroom, and still not upset the "influence the jury" crowd.

2,958 posted on 03/11/2005 4:22:21 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: mhking

Glad you're back..stay safe...are you going to post more local perspective tonite.?


2,959 posted on 03/11/2005 4:22:47 PM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: conservativeinferno

"How many guns does he have? Other then the escort's gun, did he take anyone elses that he shot?"

Good observation!


2,960 posted on 03/11/2005 4:23:15 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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