Posted on 03/13/2005 1:11:03 PM PST by jan in Colorado
In Islam, lying or omissions for the 'greater good,' according to a strict or radical Islam/Islamist philosophy is not only acceptable, it is holy and blessed work. It is called al-Takeyya (or al-Taqiyya) and is a strategy outlined in the Hadiths and supported by various interpretations of some of the Suras in the Koran. We have just seen it in action and most people never even caught the whiff of mental ether the Islamists were pouring into the airways of the already comatose and choking non-Islamist world.
Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:
"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)
And here is the definition from an Islam encyclopedia website:
"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..." (2)
Now here's where the latest Islamist sneak maneuver of al Takeyya/Taqiyya comes into play. The Islamic Commission of Spain issued a decree against al-Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. They did this in response to the bombing of a Madrid train last year by al Qaeda.
Mansur Escudero, head of the Federation of Islamic Religious Entities, called on clerics to formally condemn terrorism and pray for all terror victims. He went on to state, ''The terrorist acts of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization ... which result in the death of civilians, such as women and children ... are totally prohibited and are the object of strong condemnation within Islam.''
Sounds good so far.
But let's examine what this man did not say, as well as the timing of his little media-sensation fatwa.
This fatwa was timed to coincide with the 1-year anniversary of the bombing in Madrid. Sure, several hundred people died, but this is not the first time that hundreds, nay, thousands of people have died at the hands of Muslims merely because they weren't Muslim.
Therefore, one must ask why was there no such fatwa issued in the aftermath of 9-11? And why has no fatwa about the "...death of civilians, such as women and children'' ever been issued regarding the thousands upon thousands of Jewish/Israeli victims of genocidal terror ever been issued?
I will tell you why. This is al-Takeyya/Taqiyya at its most devious and deceptive. And the key word here is 'civilians.'
In radical Islam (Islamism), any Jew living in Israel is not considered either 'innocent' or a 'civilian.' Nor were the people living and working in America on 9-11. Islamists consider the 'Great Satan -- America,' and the 'Little Satan -- Israel,' to be enemy combatants. And this includes every man, woman or child, even babes in arms, even sleeping or in school or playing in playgrounds. This includes any and all who are not Islamists and who oppose being forced to kneel down and pay homage to Allah or his followers. In particular, Christians (whom they call 'Crusaders'), and Jews.
This also includes those of us who refuse to allow the Islamists to insidiously inject their politico-religious dogma into our way of life. And this especially includes Israel, whom the Islamists view as a polluting force in their quest for 'Arab unity' and a Judenrein Middle East.
So the fatwa issued by this Muslim cleric living in Spain was meant to put the free and civilized world into yet another coma. He was hoping we would see this supposedly 'peaceful and tolerant' religious edict and sing the praises of Islam and remind each other how it is a 'peaceful' religion, even though the word 'Islam' also means 'to submit,' and our utter and complete submission is what they are working towards.
The crafter of this latest religious edict, so proudly trumpeted to the world, has achieved nothing more than a clumsy attempt to delude us into thinking that Islamism is really nice and honorable and loving and peaceful. It is also meant to deceive us into believing that even though such edicts were never issued -- and will never be issued -- regarding Americans or Israelis, these particular Muslims are mainstream moderates.
Camel cakes! We are now familiar with the ploy of lying, omissions and deceit as sanctioned by al-Takeyya/Taqiyya. And some of us are not in a humanist/liberal feel-good coma like lambs going to the slaughter. And we will continue to alert you to the deceptions used by the Islamists.
The lesson to be learned here is not to look for what is said, but what is deliberately not said. If anything, this fatwa, by its omissions and timing (or lack thereof) has simply reinforced the fact that the Islamists do not see Israel or Judeo-Christian America as 'innocent.' It has reaffirmed that they see us all as ripe for deceit and murder in the name of Allah.
Could you post the letter or provide a link?
Thanks.
http://www.zachtei.nl/2004/11/05/000430.html#meer
There's the link to the Theo Van Gogh letter. BTW, that's what a good muslim thinks about us infidels.
Thank BC for the link. I think I'll wait until after lunch to read it!
Thank you for posting the Theo letter.
That was quite a rant.
So many 'I deem thee lost, O Whatevers"
The only 'I deem thee lost' that really matters is not to be found in the psychopath's nasty rant, of course.
It is found in the hearts of Americans:
WE DEEM THEE LOST, O ISLAM!
Simply that people who want to institute a tyranny to forcibly ban a religion they think is morally inferior are just like tyrants who ban Christianity for the same reason.
Ciao Tom,
You are right. Once you read the Koran - not to mention the ahadith (many of which are like short scripts of horror movies) you can ask yourself what exactly is it that Osama, or the Iraqi beheaders, or the suicide bombers misunderstood.
The biggest illusion is to imagine that there is a moderate Islam. America's "allies" (Saudi Arabia and Egypt) have among them the most rabid Muslims. Osama bin Laden should've been grateful to America for helping the Afgans rid themselves of the Russians, instead he stabbed America in the back.
All that said, there is however a grave and important critcism to make to the entire Western world. Many countries, first and foremost America had no qualms about fighting Communism, but few openly dare to criticize this evil cult. All countries still qualify it as a religion.
I'm afraid that the reasons are purely economical. Unless we are willing to take the economic hit, unless we are willing to put spiritual values over money, Islam will continued to be honored.
Our struggle, each in his own land is to expose this cult and to make sure that our governments do what is necessary to face the danger.
America doesn't trade with Iran, but all European countries do and this is shameful. We do business with people who half bury women in pits and throw rocks at them. We are even tinkering with the idea of allowing Turkey into the union and outside the big cities, lapidation is still very much practiced there. America is quite insistent, quite favorable towards Turkey's entry into the Union.
Please write to your senators and congressmen!
Ciao
"Simply that people who want to institute a tyranny to forcibly ban a religion they think is morally inferior are just like tyrants who ban Christianity for the same reason."
Are you suggesting that America is a tyranny? That those who resent Islam for their barbarism,violence and immorality are on the same moral plain as Islamic radicals themselves? That the "screaming silence" of Islamics within America is doing the right thing to support their country of residence? That Christians who also were violent in past history didn't deserve to be punished for it? That people want to ban Islam, as opposed to the people representing them and their violent intent?
Please explain.
The question is, should Islam be considered a religion?
*‘Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth’ -- Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of America
So as Americans, are we suppose to just allow this ideology to take over our Country?
WE DEEM THEE LOST, O ISLAM!
I like it! That may become my new tag line, with your permission, of course.
Take care,
BC
WE DEEM THEE LOST, O ISLAM!
I like it! That may become my new tag line, with your permission, of course.
LOL, you have my permission!
It is a polite way of saying what I would like to say about islam....but this avoids being banned.
I imagine being banned from this forum would be almost as painful as being beheaded by the peaceful followers of islam.
I hope never to experience either punishment
PS: I miss Broadsword!
Whoa! Broadsword got banned?! FOR WHAT!? The truth?
>>>>>FOR WHAT!? The truth?
Yep!
PC Police? Wow, they even have FR on the run. Do you have any links to the page/posting that he was on?
Thanx!
Not positive, but this is the last one I know of...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1358699/posts?q=1&&page=51
(post 58)
Yes.
*‘Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth’
*‘Islam Christianity isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an Bible should be the highest authority in America, and Islam Christianity the only accepted religion on earth’
So as Americans, are we suppose to just allow this ideology to take over our Country?
Oh, please. Dispense with the hysterics. The first amendment is still intact. Oh, and by the way, if it only applies to religions you personally like, then it is meaningless.
If you want to know what religious persecution in America looked like, study the history of the Mormon church. Pay particular attention to the Missouri Extermination order; bounty on any Mormon you killed. Is that what you are advocating?
I don't see anything that offensive except the truth.
JUST DAMN!
read later
I thought I had remained quite calm here! I asked you a question, and you answered it.
So you see Islam as a religion and I see it as an ideology.
You substituted the Bible for the koran and Christianity for islam.
There is a BIG difference between the two.
One being that becoming a Christian or not is a CHOICE. You can choose to be a Christian or you can refuse it. Once a Christian, you may walk away any time you wish. The submission to Jesus Christ is by your own free will. So your claim that Christianity is the only acceptable religion in this Country is false. I have no problem with a person having different beliefs than myself. I do have a problem if there is an agenda by an ideology to force me to believe what they do or die.
When a "religion" encourages or approves lying to further their agenda, I question what kind of god they are worshiping?
The God of the Holy Bible says:
Therefore,thus says the Lord God, "Because you have spoken falsehood and seen a lie, therefore behold, I am against you," declares the Lord God.Ezekiel 13:8
When I have some time maybe I'll take a look at the religious persecution you mentioned, although I'm seeing plenty of it firsthand right now by the ACLU.
Jesus was crucified for speaking the Truth!
Darkness cannot handle the Truth!
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