Posted on 03/13/2005 7:32:11 PM PST by CHARLITE
Professor Moriarty had Sherlock Holmes. Police Commissioner Dreyfus had Clouseau. Boris and Natasha had Rocky and Bullwinkle. Yamin Zakaria has me.
Who is Yamin Zakaria? Anyone who has followed my columns will remember Behold the Face of Islam and Followers of Islam: Can You See the Blood on Your Hands. Both were dedicated to, and about, the Islamic hate that is Mr. Yamin Zakaria. Yamin is a London-based writer and avowed supporter of Islamic terrorists. Consider this the third in a trilogy about the mindless meanderings of one Mr. Yamin Zakaria. Yes, you are entering the Twilight Zone. Welcome to the irrational world of Yamin Zakaria.
I have been following a debate between a rational man, Ali Sina, an ex-Muslim and owner of faithfreedom, and an irrational Islamic fanatic — Yamin Zakaria. The "debate" was a joke. Yamin never got his feet out of the starting blocks. Though he is braying like the jack-ass he is that he was victorious, anyone taking time to actually read the un-finished non-debate will realize otherwise. Even Muslims should be ashamed of his showing.
Let me ask this simple question: Do you understand, "Do unto others as you would like them to do unto you?" It's a simple concept. My children understood this "Golden Rule" when they were four years old, but this basic law in the fabric of civilized life baffled Mr. Zakaria. His Muslim mind simply couldn't grasp it. Page after page of "debate" was a calm Ali Sina explaining the concept over and over and Yamin trying to debate what it really meant. Not once did Yamin address the reason for the debate, which was for him to prove that Mohammed was a prophet from God and Islam is the only true religion and for Ali to prove the opposite. More than once Mr. Sina tried to steer the debate back on track, only to have Yamin say, wait, what about this "Golden Rule?" But what else can you say when you have no proof to put forth?
Let's examine some statements made by this rabid supporter of radical Islam and terrorism.
This from a column written by Zakaria titled, What would you rather be: Ethnic Minority, Gentile or Dhimmi: "If anything it is the Muslims that have always shown the greatest degree of tolerance." Yet, in an email to me, he made this statement: (The) prophecy of Prophet Muhammad (SAW), (is) that the end of time will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them all. Prior to that time anti-Semitism will become a virtue not a stigma!" He has even stated that moderate Muslims will have no safe haven. Now that's tolerance!
Yamin goes on to say in this same column that Muslims have "...no track records of the Islamic state forcefully converting people en masse or exterminating them." This statement would put anyone who is in touch with reality into fits of hysterical laughter! How does one explain the genocide in Sudan? The Islamic government has a policy of killing all those who refuse to convert to Islam. That is called extermination and forced conversion in anyone's dictionary but Yamin's. On average, 10,000 people a month are dying of starvation in camps in Sudan because the people have fled the marauding Islamic death squads. Then, the Islamic government blocks the food from getting to the camps. If you can't disembowel them — starve them to death. Sudan is but one example, there are many more.
The fact is, Muslims can't even get along with each other. Sunni hate Shia, Shia hate Sunni, and the Wahhabi sect hates everyone.
Another startling statement made by Mr. Zakaria is: "The recent convergences of the European countries to persecute the Muslim communities are not due to any real threats but driven by prejudice." The fact that Muslims are blowing up trains, slitting people's throats, and attacking firemen that dare enter Muslim neighborhoods to put out fires has nothing to do with people becoming intolerant of Muslims. The civilized world is expected to accept the violent and irrational behavior of Islam without question. Muslims are not expected to abide by the laws of the land or respect their host country's culture. It is their right to just be Muslim and all that encompasses. They don't have to "get along." Why? Because they feel they are above the rest of us "infidels."
Yamin's continued attacks on his debate opponent were a combination of twisted words and outright lies. In his epistle called: Freethinkers' VS Islam and the Burden of Proof, Zakaria makes the nonsensical statement: "The clearest evidence of their hypocritical and cowardly nature with pretence of being 'rational' lies in fact that they do not to elaborate on their alternative solutions as vociferously as they express criticisms of Islam and Muslims!" HUH? This is an old Yamin trick, use lots of big words to confuse the ignorant but actually say nothing at all. What did he say here? Those who try to debate with him had better not challenge him because his small, closed mind can't grasp the repetitive explanation of the "alternative solution."
I read every word of this non-debate. First, let me point out that "freethinkers" are not allowed in Islam. Second, Ali Sina made it very clear that he didn't care if people worshipped mushrooms as long as they didn't roam the world killing innocent people on the orders of the head mushroom. To put it simple enough for even Yamin to understand, Sina wanted people to simply live by The Golden Rule of life — "Do unto others..." At no time was it stated that Muslims should become Hindu or Catholic or Buddhist. They should be able to live their lives free from fear of their own religion. When that "religion" tells them to kill in God's name, and they follow that command, civilization must stop them. A six year old could understand this — but not Yamin.
While Yamin doesn't tote a gun, he uses his words to incite hatred and violence. He enshrines those that kill and urges them to kill more. Sadly, his words are eagerly posted on Islamic sites. Many of these sites don't know the real Yamin Zakaria. I do. I will continue to closely follow his hate filled rhetoric, as are others more powerful than I. From time to time I will report on his more outlandish statements. There is no way to keep him honest, but I will continue to expose his true nature — a terrorist who uses words instead of a sword. Yamin fights his wars like he debates: as a coward, hiding behind his computer screen, urging others to do his murderous dirty work.
Yamin Zakaria: "We as Muslims are obliged to support our Mujahideen; we should pray for their victory — they are our boys!"
Could you assist in the determining of Mary's age when she became a mother?
Lauralee......no,Mary wasn't THAT young,when she had Jesus and there isn't any year given for her,ever,in the Bible. We know that she was of marriageable age,because she was betrothed the Joseph,when she became pregnant and the age of betrothal,for a Jewess of that time,was past the age of 13.
Mohamed wed that little girl when she was 6 and consummated the marriage when that little girl was 9.
Lauralee...it really would help,if you refrained from posting about things you don't know anything at all about.
""Abraham wasn't 900 and I don't believe the Bible says he was, but I'll go check. Whatever the Bible says agewise I do believe it.""
No no no. I'm wrong then on that one. But doesn't the bible say that someone lived to be 900?
""Are you standing by your equivalency of Mohammeds 'marriage/consummation' and the conception of the Christ?""
Please twist my words a little bit more.
This Radical Islamofascism was really established around 30 years ago. I feel that when we condemn Islam, we also relinquish all hope that these people will embrace freedom. If Islam is at odds with freedom, can we really expect people to embrace it?
The actions of Terrorists on 9/11 were those of a minority. Had all Islamics felt this way, we would not have emerged victorious in Iraq or Afghanistan. I am not saying we should be blind to the threats or the people that pose these threats. If it was the IRA instead of AlQueda, yes we should be mindful every red haired freckled (just being stereotypical) Irish accented person around us. But we should not condemn them. And just a few days ago, an Islamic Sheik in Brooklyn was found guilty of raising money for foreign terrorist organization. So, yes we have to be aware.
Just think about it,
Many of the people in these Islamic countries have really been isolated from the rest of the world. Think of where the world was 200 hundred years ago. Think of where the rest of the world would be had Democracy been confined to the US and we were all isolated from one and other. Information is shared through trade and travel and people.
You know what? When I saw the photos of the people in Iraq, of the men and women who hold up their ink stained fingers proudly, of the children at school and the adults who watch them play,
These people cannot be apart of an evil cult. If that were true Democracy would never have seceded in Iraq. You would not have had a voting Day in Iraq or Afghanistan, because the Islamic fundamentalists would have seized the government with the help of the Islamic people. If every adherent to Islam believed in dying for Islam- and we are viewed as a threat to Islam- after Saddam was thrust out of power, there would be an extremist fundamentalist gov set up in both nations.
The American Puritans were Christian. Puritans were called Puritan because they wanted to "Purify" the church by getting rid of any Catholic influence. They did not like Catholics. And part of their personal beliefs was that they were the chosen people of God because the Jews had lost favor with God. And they were cruel. Look at the Salem witch trials and the punishments for witchcraft.
Look at the prisons. The Puritans were Christian.
Extreme "Islamic" like Punishments included placing heavy stone on a tied down man's chest until his chest collapsed. These punishments were "cruel and unusual" and probably what our founding father's were referring to when they outlawed these penalties.
An excerpt from Nathanial Hawthorns The Scarlett Letter "http://www.hawthorneinsalem.org/Literature/Quakers&Witches/Quakers/MMD513.html"
An account on three quaker women who were beaten and hung by Puritans. Congregationalists were a sect of puritans.
http://www.dover.lib.nh.us/DoverHistory/whippingofthequakerwomen.htm
And England's religious identity Crisis post Henry the 8th. First it was Catholics being burned at the stake then Protestants being burned at the stake, and it was on and off for years, and those were the nice penalize. Mary Queen of Scots did not earn the nickname "Bloody Mary" for her compassion.
France is also an example of widespread persecution of Christians BY Christians.
I will say that during Puritan Oliver Cromwell's martial law reign of England, all other religions were tolerated EXCEPT Catholic. Christianity has also done countless wonderful things for the world too, I am not discounting that. But, these are some of the things done in God's name. I should make the point that pre Westernism (Westernism as we know it today) these horrible things happened under Christianity.
'But doesn't the bible say that someone lived to be 900?'
A couple pre-flood, I beleieve that as well.
'""Are you standing by your equivalency of Mohammeds 'marriage/consummation' and the conception of the Christ?""
Please twist my words a little bit more.'
Your words, your implication.
Do you think that to achieve peace in the middle east, you would have to convert all Muslims to Christianity or just to make it fair, have all types of missionaries. Is Islam that wicked and evil?
'This Radical Islamofascism was really established around 30 years ago.'
No, again you are wrong. Saudi Arabia's history might be of use to you, if you ever could take advice.
The terrs of today are sophisticated. Complex communications/banking define them. The easy are dead or captured.
Now about Mohammed vis a vis the birth of Christ. Even for a Deist, this is offensive, especially this time of year, you need to withdraw the statement.
I can't defend that. I thought she was 12. And when it comes to prophets Jesus wins over Mohammad any day any round.
What the hell is all that drivel you just posted? Obviously,being on FR hasn't educated you any.
The IRA is also a terrorist group and they are in league with other terror groups all over the world. And Lauralee,most Irish people are NOT read heads.
Nooooooooooo...most of the Islamic world is NOT "isolated" and no, again, they are NOT where the rest of the world was 200 years ago! Are you telling us that Egyptians and Saudis ,etc. live in a world akin to that of 1805? The Afrghanis,maybe,the rest of them? ROTFLMAOPIMP
Please stop embarrassing yourself and stop posting.
Muslim Terrorists should be burned at the stake. Or given to a crowd like Mussolini.
I said I was being stereotypical in refering to all Irish as redheads.
Christians are shunned, tortured and murdered in Saudi Arabia. Nice religion...Islam...isn't it?
"""Nooooooooooo...most of the Islamic world is NOT "isolated" """
Yes, they are. Why was is it so hard to find Osama Bin Ladden? Because he lives in a cave. Even Bush said something akin to "I'm not going to send a missle over there to hit a donkey in the but" after September 11th. Those people live like it's still the BCs.
"" Are you telling us that Egyptians and Saudis ,etc. live in a world akin to that of 1805? ""
The poor in Saudi Arabia do. Not so sure about Egypt.
Your second sentence was incomplete and made no sense.
"Seceded" ? I presume that you meant succeeded.
Go find a teen chat room and post your drivel there.
Christians were shunned and tortured and murdered all throughout European History by other Christians. And yes, Christians are presently a persecuted minority in the middle east. I couldn't imagine.
Can you really convert 1.3 billion people to Christianity? Do you think 1.3 billion people should be converted?
I believe she was betrothed at 14, conceived Christ at 14 1/2 and gave birth at 15.
Kolo, does that sound about right?
But as for Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and Yemen and Iran (prior to the Mullah takeover)and Lebanon (the Paris of the Middle East),and Turkey so on and so forth of the Islamic nations,they are NOT and have not lived an 11th century lifestyle,since the 11th century. You're out of your wee mind and so far out of your depth,that it's shocking!
And OBL was a world traveler, before he went off to Somalia and Afghanistan to live like some stone-age madman. He vacationed in the poshest of posh resorts in Switzerland.
Go learn some world history! Egypt is not some backwater tank-town country and neither are many of other nations with an Islamic majority.
And the Philippines,where there is an IslamoNazi group,that has wreaked havoc for a very long time now,predating OBL, but now affiliated with al Qaeda, is far from being an 11th century or earlier nation.
Good grief,Laurlee...NOBODY COULD POSSIBLY BE AS STUPID AS YOU ARE PRETENDING TO BE!
'I can't defend that. I thought she was 12. And when it comes to prophets Jesus wins over Mohammad any day any round.'
That isn't the point, your comparing of Mohammed to Jesus is the point. Jesus wasn't a prophet. If Mary WAS twelve, your point still is offensive, you MUST apologize. That was trolling big time especially arounf Easter.
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