Posted on 03/15/2005 8:41:24 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
CNSNews.com) - A nationally syndicated columnist who is openly homosexual is offering what he calls "a truly radical step" to curb unsafe sex -- forcing HIV-positive homosexual men who knowingly or negligently spread the virus to be financially accountable to their affected sexual partners.
The idea is being panned by medical experts who work extensively with the homosexual community, but it has drawn praise from a spokesman for a leading conservative group in Washington, D.C., who not only called the establishment of HIV paternity a "useful" idea, but said there should be more criminal prosecution for the reckless spread of HIV.
Dan Savage, whose column, "Savage Love," appears in publications including The Village Voice, first proposed the idea in his February 22 column. Savage compared his suggestion about HIV (human immunodeficiency virus) financial obligations to a heterosexual man being held responsible for paternity. While paternity forces child support payments, Savage's proposal would force homosexual spreaders of the HIV virus to be partly responsible for "drug support payments."
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"[O]ne surefire way to curb unsafe sex would be to put the cost of AIDS meds (medications) into the equation," Savage wrote. "If the state can go after deadbeat dads and make them pay child support, why can't it go after deadbeat infectors and make them pay drug support?"
'Radical plan to curb unsafe sex'
Savage has authored several books including, "The Kid: What Happened After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant: An Adoption Story," a book detailing how he and his homosexual partner adopted a child.
Savage explained how his HIV paternity proposal would work. "Infect someone with HIV out of malice or negligence and the state will come after you ...
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Will they be able to declare bankrupcy with the new law?.
Only if the 'affected partner' is not also promiscuous and has taken all available precautions.
No laboratory has ever obtained an isolate of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), despite countless attempts. Neither Montaigner nor Gallo, the "discoverers of HIV" were able to isolate HIV. The multi-billion dollar AIDS industry has failed to isolate HIV after decades of extremely well-funded research - indeed it has failed even to produce a candidate virus particle and then to show that that particle is able to replicate in a virus-like manner. This is a basic first step of clinical epidemiology and is conspicuous by its absence. It is not known that the HIV virus even exists, despite over twenty years of research. After twenty years we can surely hazard a guess that no virus is there to be found.
Instead of isolating the virus, laboratories, clinics and medical corporations have come to accept certain indirect signs, or markers, such as antibody reactions, proteins, genetic fragments, "virus-like" particles, enzymes - that could indeed suggest the prescence of a virus but could as easily point to other things - as proving the presence and existence of this virion, HIV.
This lowering of the bar for proof-of-virus has not only led to a clinical disaster in AIDs science (50,000 US citizens killed by AZT), it has led to many new fake-viruses (Hep-C for instance) which also cannot be isolated. And like HIV, the new no-proof-needed viruses also exhibit a distinctly non-viral epidemiology. They only cause symptoms within groups with suspiciously toxic behaviour (heavy drinking, drug use, malnutrition, heavy sugar ingestion), just as HIV only killed people who were overdosing on nitrate poppers, before it started killing only people who were on lethal doses of AZT
The idea of forcing people to pay for their self-inflicted illnesses is an excellent one. Those AIDs "victims" who are actually suffering from dissipate life styles - yeah, throw the book at them. But don't force them to buy so-called anti-virals - those poisonous HAART drugs are the new cause of AIDs
Perhaps, but it would be quicker and more predictable to simply quarantine those with the deadly and incurable infection. I know quarantine is the pits, but that's what is called for in these kinds of medical circumstances.
Shalom.
Very interesting. Do you have links to published materials on this subject? It's a bandwagon I would like to jump on, but I've become a skeptic over the years.
Thanks, and Shalom.
Stupid idea. There are already lots of horror stories about false paternity, and that is with a test that can pretty much determine paternity with 100% accuracy. Any "I got the virus from Joe" would be just heresay arguments. Jonah has no way of proving he didn't also sleep with Jeff, Jason, Jeremy and John. The virus is not typed individually. A chlid is, via DNA.
Finally there are these people who are the focus of current movement in HIV theory. Their leader (biophysicist Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos) is an unstoppable killing machine. Her contributions to the BMJ online debate will bear me out.
I have a better idea. Why don't we not pay for HIV and Aids treatment except for spouses and children.
Thanks. Bookmark.
Shalom
States will do anything to raise revenues now. Things they would never allow private citizens to do.
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