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Feds should find funds for deporting all jailed illegals
The East Valley Tribune ^ | Saturday, March 19, 2005 | Tribune Editorial

Posted on 03/19/2005 10:28:12 AM PST by Willie Green

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

To paraphrase George Orwell, "all illegals are illegal, but some are more illegal than others." As — well, Orwellian as that may sound, it's actually the way federal immigration authorities do business in Arizona.

People who enter the United States illegally from Mexico, whether on foot or in a vehicle, and get caught soon after they've crossed the border are loaded onto buses by immigration agents and driven back across. No staying in El Norte for them, even if they hadn't been involved in any other sort of misbehavior.

But illegals who have been so involved — and end up in the Maricopa County jails for their pains — need have few concerns about deportation. Unless U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement places a hold on the prisoner, based on factors including criminal history, severity of offense and previous deportation orders, a non-citizen inmate will simply get kicked loose when he either makes bail or serves out his sentence. No deportation, no bus ride to Nogales, no nuttin'.

And ICE holds are only applied to about 10 percent of non-citizen inmates in Maricopa County jails, the Tribune's Ray Stern reported Friday. The rest — more than 1,700, of whom an ICE spokesman estimated some 1,400 are illegals — just walk out onto the American streets where they were arrested.

The ICE cites resource shortages to explain this. With about 70 agents in its Phoenix office, it hasn't the manpower to depart all the illegal alien offenders and thus must concentrate its efforts on those with the nastiest records.

This only makes sense. But it surely makes no sense whatever to spend whatever ICE spends on those southward bus rides in the southern part of the state to expel illegals apprehended for nothing more than being here, while skimping on efforts to expel illegals apprehended for having committed offenses over and above their mere presence.

It is bad enough that Maricopa County residents must pay for these offenders' incarceration, the cost of which ought to be remunerated by the federal government. But it adds insult to injury for the feds to just turn them loose on us after their sentences are up, free to commit more (and possibly worse) crimes.

Money ought to be found to ensure these jailbirds are sent packing — all of them.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigration

1 posted on 03/19/2005 10:28:12 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

The problem with deporting CRIMINAL (those who have committed crimes-felonies) IS THAT THEY WILL JUST COME RIGHT BACK OVER THE BORDER AND COMMIT MORE FELONIES --- thanks to Washington's DO-NOTHING ABOUT THE INVASION OF OUR COUNTRY policy.


2 posted on 03/19/2005 10:33:58 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Willie Green
Money ought to be found to ensure these jailbirds are sent packing — all of them.

I can fit four of them in my Dodge Intrepid and I live 11 hours from Mexico. I'll pay for the gas if someone can tell me where to pick them up at.

I am sure we can get enough volunteers for the other 2,999,996 of them.

;)

3 posted on 03/19/2005 10:46:53 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Does anyone remember Billy Dale? Did the Democrats ever care?)
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To: Willie Green

Let them deport themselves. If they are not allowed to work, most of them will leave.


4 posted on 03/19/2005 10:50:56 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user
If they are not allowed to work, most of them will leave

....or prey on those that do work.

5 posted on 03/19/2005 11:07:35 AM PST by expatpat
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To: proxy_user
LET THEM DEPORT THEMSELVES?

These are known criminals we're talking about here. Most criminals I've heard of do not support themselves with normal jobs. Aunt Minnie in Phoenix is more likely to get robbed - or worse. THINK man!

6 posted on 03/19/2005 11:07:45 AM PST by JackSplatt
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To: proxy_user
LET THEM DEPORT THEMSELVES?

These are known criminals we're talking about here. Most criminals I've heard of do not support themselves with normal jobs. Aunt Minnie in Phoenix is more likely to get robbed - or worse. THINK man!

7 posted on 03/19/2005 11:09:01 AM PST by JackSplatt
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To: proxy_user
All Your Borders Are Belong to Us
8 posted on 03/19/2005 11:09:33 AM PST by LNewman
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To: JackSplatt

Sorry - my computer hic-cupped.


9 posted on 03/19/2005 11:10:24 AM PST by JackSplatt
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To: Willie Green

Ny definition jail inmates do a year or less. I'd like to see all of the illegal ones deported as a matter of national policy.


10 posted on 03/19/2005 11:11:52 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: bigsigh

BY definition


11 posted on 03/19/2005 11:12:12 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: Willie Green

Have any of the rest of you noticed the lack of Open Borders advocates on these latest immigration posts?

We used to have some real lively exchanges. Most of the posters who want to give our country away for free and without a fight have gone underground, or so it would seem.

If we have won the discussion on the FR, that is a great start.

Now we need to win with the rest of the people and, of course, the politicians.


12 posted on 03/19/2005 11:13:33 AM PST by HighFlier
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To: HighFlier
Hey! I have good news!

This week I saw a homeowner on my block mowing her own yard! Bless her heart!

13 posted on 03/19/2005 11:18:31 AM PST by LNewman
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To: Willie Green

All illega aliens can be and should be deported. Also, our borders should be secured by fences, high tech devices, more border patrol as well as make use of volunteers. Our military should be on the borders instead of dying in Iraq.


14 posted on 03/19/2005 11:21:19 AM PST by Dante3
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To: HighFlier
Have any of the rest of you noticed the lack of Open Borders advocates on these latest immigration posts?

Well, it IS Saturday...
Perhaps their employers have cut back on overtime pay.

15 posted on 03/19/2005 11:25:50 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Dante3

I agree with everything you said,get rid of them all---they broke the law and that's it!

I smoke. I live in a non-smoking state. There are even park benches where I can't smoke. If I light a cigarette on certain park benches in a city where I have paid property taxes for 44 years I will get a stiff fine and if I refuse to pay the fine I will get arrested.

The illegals have more rights than I do and it's no wonder that people are angry.



16 posted on 03/19/2005 11:29:57 AM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: Mears

Illegal aliens have also been given special perks not available to citizens. In some states they are excempt form out-of-state fees at colleges, free medical care, etc.


17 posted on 03/19/2005 11:35:04 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Yeah,that in-state-tuition for illegals really irritates me.

I live in Massachusetts and if my kids had wanted to go to URI instead of UMass Amherst(they are about the same distance from home)they would have to pay out of state tuition rates but an ILLEGAL living in RI would get the lower tuition. It boggles the mind.

I hear the medical costs to the taxpayers in Southern California,Texas,and Arizona are off the wall because of the illegals.

George Bush has been a very big disappointment to me as far as the immigration issue goes. he got his votes and then just dropped the ball----no wonder so few people vote in the USA anymore---the politicians just don't care.


18 posted on 03/19/2005 11:44:58 AM PST by Mears ("Call me irresponsible".)
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To: Willie Green
It is bad enough that Maricopa County residents must pay for these offenders' incarceration, the cost of which ought to be remunerated by the federal government.

Hahahaha! That's still the Maricopa County residents paying and the rest of us too. If federal money is to be spent, send it to the border for REAL enforcement so the illegals don't get to the cities in the first place. What a joke.

FMCDH(BITS)

19 posted on 03/19/2005 12:16:28 PM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: Willie Green

Saturday maybe, but I haven't seen them in weeks.

Could it be we have won?


20 posted on 03/19/2005 12:36:19 PM PST by HighFlier
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To: Willie Green

Their translators get the weekends off.


21 posted on 03/19/2005 1:01:18 PM PST by thoughtomator (Sick already of premature speculation on the 2008 race)
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To: HighFlier
Now we need to win with the rest of the people and, of course, the politicians.

Politicians will be harder to change, as most of them are taking money from the illegal Mexicans' lobbying group in order to sell out our country. Remember, a "good" ? politician does nothing free of charge.

22 posted on 03/19/2005 1:36:35 PM PST by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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Good catch on this editorial, Willie. The newspaper journalists and editorial boards are finally starting to get it. It helps that they are living in the middle of the problem...the East Valley is the suburb cities east of Phoenix - Mesa, Tempe, Apache Junction are the large ones.

23 posted on 03/19/2005 2:32:54 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Next up is Operation 4th of July)
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To: HighFlier; thoughtomator; Willie Green

The firebrands on both sides got banned or suspended.

All were warned about a year ago to keep the threads civil. Some couldn't, and they paid the price.


24 posted on 03/19/2005 2:34:37 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Next up is Operation 4th of July)
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To: HiJinx

Bump!


25 posted on 03/19/2005 2:58:23 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Willie Green

Solution:

1. Secure the borders.
2. Guest worker program, but no family can accompany the workers.


26 posted on 03/19/2005 3:23:45 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Willie Green

BTTT


27 posted on 03/19/2005 4:53:29 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Michael.SF.

>>I can fit four of them in my Dodge Intrepid<<

A coyote would squeze 9 or 10 in there. (he gets paid by the head count)


28 posted on 03/19/2005 4:54:56 PM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: Fishing-guy
Guest worker,
Hey Yankee! You Can Kiss My Family Values

29 posted on 03/19/2005 5:00:04 PM PST by B4Ranch (The Minutemen will be doing a 30 day Neighborhood Watch Program in Cochise County, Arizona.)
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To: Willie Green

bump


30 posted on 03/19/2005 7:50:31 PM PST by Robert Lomax
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To: EagleUSA
thanks to Washington's DO-NOTHING ABOUT THE INVASION OF OUR COUNTRY policy

BTTT for the truth.

31 posted on 03/19/2005 8:35:00 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: B4Ranch

Keep that picture for a response for bayourod and all the other holier than thou liberals.


32 posted on 03/20/2005 5:59:44 AM PST by junta (America first.)
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To: B4Ranch
A coyote would squeeze 9 or 10 in there

lol.

That's the difference between a volunteer and a profiteer.

33 posted on 03/20/2005 8:18:24 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Does anyone remember Billy Dale? Did the Democrats ever care?)
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