US Senate to convene emergency session. (Schiavo) Fox news. Tom Delay speaking now

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[Ravi]

Just heard on Fox that U.S. Senate will convene today in emergency session regarding Terri Schiavo.

[sinkspur]

This leads me to believe that this entire episode is a political ploy by a group seeking to consolidate their power within the party. It is a political coup of a sort, and has more to do with abortion politics and judicial law making.

If this were a genuine effort by the GOP to do something, this law would have been passed months ago.

The fact that DeLay orchestrated this drama at zero hour indicates that this is pandering to the religious right and nothing more.

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

Yes, the Dr., not the writer! I need another cup of coffee! You obviously know of him.

Sad to say, yes. His office is in the next town over from me and I know more than one person who he has failed, and perhaps harmed.

[Miss Behave]

"My point is that we send people into war to die."

No, we send people into war to KILL when necessary to win.

[Cold Heat]

The fact that DeLay orchestrated this drama at zero hour indicates that this is pandering to the religious right and nothing more.

Yes....The right believes they can consolidate power over this issue. The party is pandering openly and not thinking at all about the consequences.

I for one, believe it my duty to remind them of the cost of doing so.

And I will. The dance is over.

Time to separate the men from the boys. If the Republican party is to win in 2006-08, it will need to be united. I see no such thing occurring. The "My way or the Highway" gang will push moderates out. They will lose the support and the rats will get the seats.

That being a given, I think it is time to rearrange the furniture.

[Terriergal]

The fact that DeLay orchestrated this drama at zero hour indicates that this is pandering to the religious right and nothing more.

I think you're right. But I will have to stay a little longer if they do actually do the right thing here. If they don't, I'm gone. I just posted this on another thread:

"She just started yelling, 'I waaaannt, I waaaannt,'" Weller explained.

At that point, police removed Weller from Terri's hospice room and, later, her feeding tube was removed.

Apparently they didn't like Terri's accent. /sarcasm
This is pure unadulterated evil. If the Republicans cannot stop this when they have a majority in both houses, a Republican president, and a republican governor in the state in question, then they are worthless and don't deserve anyone's support anymore. If this woman dies because they got caught up in debate and refused, yes REFUSED to take action, (they have had PLENTY of time for this before now if they even cared) then I for one will not support the party anymore. I just can't. I have been hoping against hope too long. Time to pull THEIR feeding tube.

Think I'll start a vanity...

[Hildy]

So there are times when killing innocent people is justified.

[Hildy]

Yea. It was a little over 10 years ago my brother went to see him. He died early the next year.

[Hildy]

George Will agrees with us.

[Miss Behave]

"So there are times when killing innocent people is justified."

Um, no. The US Military is charged with the capture and/or the elimination of enemy soldiers. You didn't know that?

And you said THIS, also:

"I'm talking about a woman who is legally brain dead."

Say what?

[Cold Heat]

George Will agrees with us.

Yeah, he has been one of my mentors.

What hurts, is that Kennedy also agrees.......:-)

[Miss Behave]

"So there are times when killing innocent people is justified."

I resent your putting words in my mouth. You even purposely did not put a question mark at the end of your sentence.

I don't play games.

[skaterboy]

She cant win the argument so getting childish starts..Typical but not unexpected

[BigSkyFreeper]

It's possible.

What's possible? You'd risk invasive surgery to remove the implant just so she could get an MRI scan done?

Trustworthy doctors, unbiased doctors, would be the key---I'd need lots of trustworthy advice.

I would think so. We're talking life or death situations.

[jonrick46]

I have seen the photos of Lisa with the black cockroach bite marks on her nose and the skin rashes all over her body. They valued her life less than that cockroach that dined on her nose.

What us more frightening is that I have just learned that my 13 year old daughter does not share the values for human life that I do. I am shocked and I am shaken. I had no idea she was thinking such thoughts. I now have my work cut out for me to change what she has failed to get through her government school. I hope this is not common thinking among the youth of her age to make without hesitation the following statement to me:

"They ought to kill her! We don't need to have those crazy retards sucking up all that money to keep them alive. We should use that money to buy laptops for each student. That way we wouldn't have to use pen and paper."

[FBD]

You and I are on the same side of this issue...how about that.

[Twinkie]

I lived with a WWII soldier for the first 18 yrs. of my life. He was drafted into the Army. He was working in a furniture company, was a talented carpenter, for a very wealthy man with much influence who told him, "If you don't want to go I can fix this for you and you don't have to go." My father went back to his room that night and thought on the affinity he had for being able to look himself in the face in the mirror every morning. He went back in to work the next morning and told the man, "I've made my decision. I have to like the man I see in the mirror first thing every morning. I am reporting to the Army. Thank you, anyway."

He thought of me, not yet born, and of you and of many thousands of those yet unborn who would have to live under the bootheel of Hitler and the Third Reich (if they were allowed to live at all) if Hitler won that war. So, he went, and he fought like the man and the soldier that he was. He earned a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star and a Presidential Unit Citation for bravery fighting with the Blue Devils (named by the Panzers themselves because they fought the Germans like devils) at Laiatico, Italy, in N. Africa, Sicily and then, finally, Germany liberating the death camps.

It was a price, don't get me wrong. Old soldiers are precious. When you see one, say "thank you", and if you are an American, be thankful you don't have to say, "danke for giving it the old college try and failing". Say, "thank you for winning that damn war"! Make no mistake about it, the bootheel was aiming straight for our necks.

[Mrs.Nooseman]

Well you might ignore GodBlessUSA,but you might listen to me.

As I was reading through this thread tonight ,I am deeply saddened that one good Freeper attacks another on a difference of opinion.

First of all I would like to ask you:
"Why did you attack GodBlessUSA on a reply to another post and not the original poster?

Second I would like to point out that I am,too, have at least 100 posts to the threads that you refer to in your ,quite frankly ugly posts to GodBlessUSA!
Matter of fact there is quite a few posters here on this thread that also frequent the threads you saw GodBlessUSA post to.

Now That I have said that,I like to point out that just because someone doesn't continuously post on a Terri thread
makes them uninformed or stupid.

The threads that I,GodBlessUSA and some of the other posters here, post on and seem dumb to you and a waste of time or what ever,always provide links to Terri threads and it is being discussed there as well,just in a more FRiendly atmosphere.

I always read the Terri threads when I get pinged,but most of the time I don't respond ,because I get tired of the ugliness that ensues after a while and I don't want to get involved with that!

I understand that all the kinks needed to be worked out in the bill before voting on it,but I also think that they should have stepped in sooner!

You may now think that I am uninformed and stupid as well,but what you think of me does not matter,what matters is that we keep on fighting for Terri!

God bless you!

I pray that Terri will be saved and I will continue praying until she is safe!!!

Mrs.Nooseman

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

Madam, I do not intend to start this again., but will say this one more time. It would have been useless to meet on Saturday morning because there was neither a compromise nor a House quorum. You and your friend may grind your teeth and posture as you will but those are the facts.

I am 55 years old and have been an ACTIVE, conservative Republican since I was 16. It doesn't matter what is right, nor what we want, politics is the art of getting what you can. I never said the Congress should not have acted sooner or anything else, save the fact that meeting Saturday morning would have been a waste of time. That is a fact. I didn't make the rules of politics, but unlike some, I do know and understand them.

If you wish to argue about a Saturday morning meeting, do so. The rest of your rant has nothing to do with my post.

[purpleland]

"ERGO: this is no "executive power(s)" possible in a republic/democracy"

That's quite a rant to say little.

*I don't "rant" - I relate.

The President obviously has executive powers but he doesn't have executive powers such that for example he can tell Purpleland where your children can go to school.

The Terri Schiavo issue is not "school choice." (A sophomoric argument is a bore.)

As I said, it's not a monarchy. The president can't just make people do things because that's what he wants.

*The president's actions (e.g., veto or order)regarding the Schiavo case is not a matter making "people do things..."

Would you like him to be able to dictate things like that to you?

*Would you please elaborate on what you mean by the President being "able to dictate things..."? What "things"?

*If the president issues an executive order advocating Terri's continued living, does that mean he is a dictator?

Maybe you should move to China.

*Why?

[OneTimeLurker]

The school choice argument is just as on point as the Terri example. Executive orders are issued with regard to government agencies, ceremonial issues or defense issues. They don't relate to individual people and cannot be in conflict with decisions of the judicial branch.

Again if you want the chief executive to be able to decree whatever strikes his fancy then I suggest again that you move to China as you appear more comfortable with government having the ability to dictate all facets of your life. In short, the reason the executive order issue hasn't been raised anyplace other than here, by you, is because it is not an option.