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US Senate to convene emergency session. (Schiavo) Fox news. Tom Delay speaking now
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Posted on 03/19/2005 11:30:38 AM PST by Ravi

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To: Cold Heat
You were wrong on all three counts.
1,741 posted on 03/20/2005 10:35:07 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Hildy
My brother had Cancer and went to an experimental place in Texas because there was a small chance it would help him. It made him worse.

Would this place have been in Stafford, Texas just SW of Houston?

1,742 posted on 03/20/2005 10:35:15 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state, and a former Army Red Leg.)
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To: Petronski

The only tests she hasn't had is an MRI and a PET scan. And I'm' not even certain about the PET scan. And you've been told the excellent reason she hasn't had an MRI.

She had a court appointed guardian who WANTED her to live. He wanted every test available done to show that she was NOT PVS. Ultimately, he felt he had failed her.

Read the court testimony and/or the guardian ad litems reports.


1,743 posted on 03/20/2005 10:36:15 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Petronski

Alright for the 102nd time now. I have stated, from the first time I heard this, the following: Absent written consent she should be handed over to her parents to be cared for in their house with their money. There must be 50 times I've said this on this thread alone. Personally, I believe Michael Schiavo. Now will you answer my question?


1,744 posted on 03/20/2005 10:36:35 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Jrabbit

No one said she's a vegetable. Your post makes no sense.


1,745 posted on 03/20/2005 10:36:58 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Hildy
Just because the doctors and hospital admins do it, doesn't make it right.

Organ donors are different yet again from Terri, different from our soliders and different from murderers.

Not just any organ will do for every person. One has to meet certain criteria to get a certain organ and also placement on the list to make it fair.

That Judge would only have the alleged right to maybe end Terri's life, IF she had wanted to die. I believe her dear HINO lied about her wanting to die. That Judge based his judgement on hearsay which is inadmissible in court in most circumstances.

Terri hasn't committed any serious crimes requiring the death penalty, Terri was not a member of our military sent into the line of fire, Terri isn't on an organ donor list for an organ that would keep her alive.

All she needs is food and water to live. Her parents want to take care of her and will pay for it.

Let her live the rest of her natural life in whatever happiness she is capable of having.

1,746 posted on 03/20/2005 10:38:11 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: Cultural Jihad
Life is an unalienable right, which means that even the right-holder cannot abrogate it.

Ya got the first part right.

The second is a bit more complicated and you over simplify it.

I agree suicide is a sin. The Bible says so.

Allowing death to occur is not.

1,747 posted on 03/20/2005 10:40:31 AM PST by Cold Heat (This space is being paid not to do anything.)
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To: Hildy
"if no man has the right to decide the fate of another human being, how do we justify sending young, healthy men and women onto the battlefield to die?"

Last time I checked....we had a volunteer army. These men made their own decision to join and are aware of the risks. BTW, they are not sending men out to die, but to win.

1,748 posted on 03/20/2005 10:44:07 AM PST by Feiny (Too bad drinking scotch isn't a paying job or Kenny's dad would be a millionaire!)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
My point about organ donors is that when an organ becomes available, it's human beings who decide, for a myriad of reasons, who should get the organ, thus live, and who won't. That decision can be based on lifestyle choices. So if it isn't right, why then even have the system? Just give the organ to the next on the list. Is that fair that someone decides that someone else should die because he smokes or drinks? My point is that life and death issues are made every day by human beings. And the law has been followed in this case. You may not agree with the result, but you cannot say this case hasn't been tried fairly. You just don't like the result. Maybe you don't even like the law. So why don't you work to change it.

And you sidestepped the soldier issue. We send young people to die. That's a fact. If it's not right that Doctors and Administrators can do it, why should the government make that decision?

1,749 posted on 03/20/2005 10:44:38 AM PST by Hildy
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Pray for Terri. Something went wrong when they took out the feeding tube. She has a HIGH FEVER from a new infection. ARE WE WORKING OUR WAY TO FIRST DEGREE MURDER?????
AND, PLEASE FAX THESE TWO FLORIDA DEMOCRATS WHO WANT TERRI TO BE MURDERED BY JUDGE GREER who is going to prison imo.

GET THIS OUT ASAP...DIRECT CONGRESSIONAL REQUEST!!!!

Please if you have a fax machine take a moment and contact by fax the offices of

Robert Wexler - FAX 202 225-5974

Email: Click here: Congressman Robert Wexler: 19th

District of Florida and

Earl Blumenauer FAX 202 225-8941

Email:

http://www.blumenauer.house.gov/about/Contact.shtml


3,541 posted on 03/20/2005 12:30:38 PM CST by floriduh voter ( www.theempirejournal.com THE TRUTH ABOUT TERRI... IF YOU DARE)
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1,750 posted on 03/20/2005 10:45:09 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: feinswinesuksass

We had a draft. So are you admitting a draft is wrong? If a soldier says now, "I was wrong, I don't agree with our fight over there and refuse to go"...he's sent to prison because he chooses life. Why should he be punished for choosing his life?


1,751 posted on 03/20/2005 10:46:00 AM PST by Hildy
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

It was Brokowski's place.


1,752 posted on 03/20/2005 10:47:16 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
If we have no right to decide who lives and dies under any circumstance, what justifies anyone being sent out to the battlefield if they don't want to go?

You haven't established your premise, but assuming it's true, those being sent out into a battlefield aren't being sent to certain death.

1,753 posted on 03/20/2005 10:47:24 AM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Cold Heat
Purposeful starvation is not a sin? Food and water are heroic efforts? Not in Terri's church.
1,754 posted on 03/20/2005 10:47:59 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Petronski

"There are voluminous records of every other test that was done, multiple entries on the CT scans and exams and so forth."

Got Link ? I've been looking for any records regarding the battery of tests that must have been done in 1990 before she was given the experimental implant.


In any case, Dr. Hammesfahr seems to be the main source quoted from Schindlers side regarding Terri - was he lieing or was he simply incompetant ?


1,755 posted on 03/20/2005 10:50:21 AM PST by RS (Keeping them honest since 1998)
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To: Petronski

But we know someone will "probably" die.


1,756 posted on 03/20/2005 10:51:58 AM PST by Hildy
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To: RS

There's so much lying going on in this case that the truth is barely recognizable anymore.


1,757 posted on 03/20/2005 10:53:53 AM PST by Hildy
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To: RS
was he lieing or was he simply incompetant ?

Not sure which.

1,758 posted on 03/20/2005 10:54:11 AM PST by Cold Heat (This space is being paid not to do anything.)
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To: Hildy

Those are the rules the soldier agreed to....if you sign a contract & then decide you don't like the terms...you don't get out of it without consequences. As for the draft, we are a nation of laws & the law was passed authorizing a draft so it was not wrong. It was agreed upon by those we elected. That is how our system works. If you don't like it, then campaign to change the laws you don't like.


1,759 posted on 03/20/2005 10:56:41 AM PST by Feiny (Too bad drinking scotch isn't a paying job or Kenny's dad would be a millionaire!)
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To: Hildy
Everday Dr.'s and administrators decide who lives and dies.

This is so true.

I've seen MANY hours of medical documentaries on this very thing.

1,760 posted on 03/20/2005 10:56:42 AM PST by the Deejay
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