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Linux lags Windows in new security report
SearchSecurity.com ^ | 22 March 2005 | Anne Saita

Posted on 03/22/2005 10:11:59 AM PST by ShadowAce

A report released today indicates Windows Server 2003 may actually be more secure than its most popular Linux competitor when it comes to vulnerabilities and the time it takes to patch them.

But well before the paper's official release, members of the IT security community have questioned the comparison, with some slamming the researchers' methodology and others the Microsoft connection -- the software giant funded the research behind the favorable findings.

"The fact that Security Innovations [which produced the paper] retained 'editorial control' doesn't help; if Microsoft is paying the bills, there can be all sorts of nonverbal pressure behind the scenes. It isn't like it was 'co-funded' by both Microsoft and Red Hat," said Michael D. "Mick" Bauer, senior editor of Linux Journal and director of value-subtracted services for Wiremonkeys.org.

He also questioned the narrow focus. "This study appears to be more concerned with vulnerability counts and patch-release cycles than in actual security or securability. Certainly, if Microsoft has reduced the amounts of bugs in [its] software and gotten faster at patching bugs, that's great. But the bug-patch rat race is only one part of a much more complicated security picture, and the way I see it, Linux still has compelling advantages from a security standpoint."

Such a reaction was anticipated by authors Richard Ford, Herbert H. Thompson and Fabien Casteran. They intentionally ignored threat profiles in favor of inherent vulnerabilities in Windows Server 2003 and two versions of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0. The goal, they said, is to provide a security metric for IT professionals to apply to their own software shopping.

"I don't think people should make adoption decisions purely based on the results, but I think it does at the very least give decision makers and diehards on either side, or even the neutral people, a chance to look beyond hype and speculation and look at hard numbers," said Thompson, director of research at Melbourne, Fla.-based Security Innovation Inc., the application security provider that produced the report.

Thompson denies Microsoft's money influenced results but admits that's a source of contention for a lot of people. "We've gotten funding from Microsoft and as a result of that people have come back and said this automatically must not be relevant and fair and balanced. That's one reason our mission has been to be completely transparent in the methodology."

Microsoft has funded similar security studies, based on customer requests, including last year's Forrester Research study that concluded Windows had a lower average total days of risk than the four most popular Linux distributions. Another, also by Forrester, had shown Windows had a lower total cost of ownership. Both reports came under similar attack.

In the Security Innovation report, the trio took requirements for three typical enterprise Web server environments and scrutinized known vulnerabilities and subsequent patches. The Windows Server 2003 platform included ASP.NET for scripting, a SQL Server 2000 database server and Microsoft Internet Information Services 6.0 Web server. Any function was accepted by default during installation (assuming many admins just keep clicking the Next button during the process). On the Linux side, the team used two different configurations for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0. Both ran PHP for scripting, a MySQL database server and an Apache Web server. But one version included high modularity, where essentially the researchers installed whatever Red Hat had available; the other was minimally configured to include only core components.

Among the findings: During calendar year 2004, the Windows platform recorded 52 vulnerabilities, while the default Linux installation included 174 vulnerabilities and the bare-boned version had 132 known flaws. Because of disparate severity ratings among vendors, the researchers used the more neutral ICAT system from the National Institute for Standards and Technology to rank a flaw's criticality. Using that government-funded system, the Windows configuration had 33 serious holes, compared to 48 for the minimally configured Linux machines and 77 on the loaded Linux box.

The other metric measured how much time lapsed between public disclosure, such as through announcements on Bugtraq, and a patch release. Researchers referred to the gap as "days of risk." In Windows, the average was 31.3 days; in Linux it was 69.6 days for minimally configured Red Hat and 71.4 for the default installation.

In addition, all three configurations contained holes left exposed for more than 90 days from disclosure to fix release. Seven were found in Windows Server 2003, with five designated as "highly severe" by ICAT. Four of those holes were in the Internet Explorer Web browser. In the minimally configured Red Hat, 31 holes were found, seven of them highly severe and five others not rated by ICAT at the time of the study. Eleven vulnerabilities were in the operating system kernel; followed by MySQL with five.

Thompson and Ford gave a preview of their report at February's RSA Conference, in which numerous audience members challenged their choices and conclusions. At the presentation, Ford defended their methodology. "We think it's thought through. We think it's pretty balanced," the Linux enthusiast had said.

On Monday, Thompson said suggestions and comments since RSA were incorporated into the final draft. The research, he stressed, is intended to aid IT managers weighing software purchases as well as shed light on what vendors and user communities are doing to reduce the number of security flaws in these products. "There's so much speculation out there," he said. "The Net is just rife with opinion on security of Windows and Linux but there's very little key decision data points out there, and that's one of the things we hope to provide."

But people like Bauer say the results remain unfair comparisons.

"Most of us in the Linux security community have been saying for years that the average Linux distribution -- Red Hat, SuSE, etc. -- isn't terribly secure 'by default.' Good security comes from careful configuration, not by running an installer," he said.

Jay Beale, lead developer of the Bastille Linux Project, questioned the choice of vulnerabilities. "They're focusing on high severity vulnerabilities. A local privilege escalation exploit is high severity, which is true. But they argue that high severity vulnerabilities should be fixed fast. Actually, while local priv escalation vulns are high severity, they're not high risk. And so neither vendor fixes them very quickly."

Bauer did give Microsoft a nod for recent improvements in its software security, including more timely patch releases. "But I still like Linux better from a security standpoint," he said. "Even though this is less true every year, I still find many of the choices that Microsoft makes for me to be maddening, such as the way Windows handles digital certificates. With Linux I simply have more choice in determining how my system behaves, and to be security-conscious is to be a control freak."


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1 posted on 03/22/2005 10:11:59 AM PST by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

Tech ping


2 posted on 03/22/2005 10:12:21 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Not a Red Hat fan. Or Mandrake.

I like Debian. Haven't tried Gentoo, but have heard good things about it.


3 posted on 03/22/2005 10:13:44 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts

I've been tempted to try Arch. I've read a couple of good reviws about it. It's based on LFS and Slack, I believe.


4 posted on 03/22/2005 10:16:55 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

I ran Slackware years ago, but have been using Debian for years now.


5 posted on 03/22/2005 10:18:13 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: ShadowAce
""Most of us in the Linux security community have been saying for years that the average Linux distribution -- Red Hat, SuSE, etc. -- isn't terribly secure 'by default.' "

ROFLMAO!!! Who is he trying to kid?

6 posted on 03/22/2005 10:18:48 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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To: ShadowAce

Interesting the Linux crowd admits good security comes from careful configuration.

Funny, when I configure a Windows server, I'm careful how I configure it, too.


7 posted on 03/22/2005 10:19:17 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: ShadowAce
Funny, I only saw the title and guessed "Vulnerability count!" I was right. I must be getting slower or less cynical though, because I didn't guess "Microsoft-funded report," which is the case.

The other metric measured how much time lapsed between public disclosure

Ah, yes, the disclosure that Microsoft doesn't make until it has a patch in the works vs. the immediate disclosure of Linux bugs when they are discovered.

8 posted on 03/22/2005 10:21:27 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: stylin_geek

That's the key, who administers it and how. And the Linux crowd is finally having to take that position, since figures like these can't be blamed on Microsoft funding the study.

"During calendar year 2004, the Windows platform recorded 52 vulnerabilities, while the default Linux installation included 174 vulnerabilities and the bare-boned version had 132 known flaws."


9 posted on 03/22/2005 10:22:07 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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To: Golden Eagle
ROFLMAO!!! Who is he trying to kid?

No one. Red Hat is notorious.

10 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:05 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: stylin_geek
Interesting the Linux crowd admits good security comes from careful configuration.

Funny, when I configure a Windows server, I'm careful how I configure it, too.

Thank you for that post! No matter what platform your managing, care needs to be taken if it's going to be exposed to the open net. Default configurations are rarely appropriate.

11 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:08 AM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Liberal Classic

I've configured both Unix and Windows platforms, and none of it is "configure and forget." That's just asking for trouble.


12 posted on 03/22/2005 10:26:43 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: ShadowAce
This shameless FUD brought to you buy a paid MS shill.
13 posted on 03/22/2005 10:27:04 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

"During calendar year 2004, the Windows platform recorded 52 vulnerabilities, while the default Linux installation included 174 vulnerabilities and the bare-boned version had 132 known flaws."

You deny this claim? Then refute it.


14 posted on 03/22/2005 10:28:50 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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To: Golden Eagle

One thing that really amused me was when I started investigating web server vulnerabilities, and found out how many different Unix based servers had huge security holes.


15 posted on 03/22/2005 10:30:29 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: Golden Eagle
You deny this claim? Then refute it.

Default installation?

DEFAULT INSTALLATION?

Anybody who uses the DEFAULT INSTALLTATION has no idea what they are doing, and it doesn't matter what platform they use, they are going to have LOTS OF PROBLEMS.

16 posted on 03/22/2005 10:35:11 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Try counting up the software installed on the "Windows Platform" vs the software installed on the "Linux installation"

You'll find the Linux installation has hundreds of different pieces of software included -- many performing the same function.


17 posted on 03/22/2005 10:37:28 AM PST by sigSEGV
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To: sigSEGV; Golden Eagle
You'll find the Linux installation has hundreds of different pieces of software included -- many performing the same function.

That's why anyone who knows what he's doing sets up a Linux server bare-bones, then installs the applications and services needed to perform its function. A web server set up this way slashes deep into the Linux vulnerability count, a firewall even more.

18 posted on 03/22/2005 10:43:46 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: ShadowAce
According to netcraft, "securityinnovation.com", which appears to be powered by hamsters at the moment is running a W2K box with IIS 5.0. They don't appear to be up on the latest and greatest. Is MS even patching those anymore?

Given that they consider mere counting tally marks to be a security assessment, I'm not sure how much faith in their judgement.

19 posted on 03/22/2005 11:14:54 AM PST by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies! (Made from the finest girlscouts!))
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To: Golden Eagle
During calendar year 2004, the Windows platform recorded 52 vulnerabilities, while the default Linux installation included 174 vulnerabilities and the bare-boned version had 132 known flaws.

a more correct wording is ...Windows platform admitted 52 vulnerabilities.... windows seems to only publish vulnerabilities which others already know about, or to which they already have fixes, whereas the open source folks publish the vulnerabilities immediately so as many folks as possible will come up with the best fix.

interesting isn't it that Microsoft *copyrights* its bugs, so as to supress anyone from publishing them...

20 posted on 03/22/2005 11:26:18 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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