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TERRI's Former Nurse Accuses MICHAEL SCHIAVO
Newsmax.com - Inside Cover ^ | 03/22/05 | CARL LIMBACHER

Posted on 03/22/2005 10:15:00 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE

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NEVER FORGET

Reprinted from NewsMax.com Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9 a.m. EST

Terri's Former Nurse Accuses Michael Schiavo From April 1995 to August 1996, Carla Sauer Iyer was one of Terri Schiavo's caretakers at Palm Garden in Largo, Fla.

This morning on Fox News' "Fox and Friends" program, she gave a frightening account of Michael Schiavo's actions and words, and also a hopeful description of Terri Schiavo's condition at that time. Ms. Iyer said that Terri could: Interact with staff. Laugh. Talk - saying words like "mommy," "help me" and "hi." Let you know if she was in pain. React reflexively on command. Interviewer Steve Doocey asked Carla why, in her opinion, Michael Schiavo was not telling people this. She answered that she believes "he wants her to die." Doocey then revealed that Carla was fired from the care facility because of a disagreement with Michael Schiavo in an incident where she claims he injected Terri with insulin. Ms. Iyer said that after Michael visited Terri one day for about 20 minutes, with the door shut, she went in after he left and saw Terri sweating, lethargic and "crying hysterically." Carla checked Terri's blood sugar, and it was barely reading on the glucometer. She also saw a vial of "insulin concealed in the trash bin." According to Carla, there were needle marks underneath Terri's breast, under her arms and near her groin. Carla talked to the police and then went to the director of nursing, who was very upset that Carla had gone to the police. She doesn't think Michael Schiavo was a caring husband and claimed to Fox News that he refused to send Terri to rehabilitation of any kind. Doocey then said that he had heard a story from another nurse who tried to feed Terri, and when Michael Schiavo found out about it, in Doocey's words, "it all hit the fan." Carla concurred, saying that Terri could be fed by mouth - jello and pudding, etc. - without aspirating, but that when Michael found out Terri was being fed by mouth, he told the nurses he was going to get them fired. Doocey then asked Carla why she was coming forward now. She answered that she wanted "to let the truth be known. I was one of the very few people who was able to see Terri. She would interact with all the visitors. ... I want everyone to see Terri."

NEVER FORGET

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bullies; investigatemichael; investigatemikenow; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; verses; vulnerable
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To: DLfromthedesert

At the risk of repeating what I'm certain has been posted/replied here a thousand times, this case would be the bellweather Euthanasia case. Schiavo's lawyer, Felos I believe, and the rest of the Euthanasia crowd can't wait for Terri to die to use this case ad nauseum in the future. I personally believe this will energize the Euthanasia support base to such an extent that the US will rapidly approach where the Netherlands already is vis-a-vis Euthanasia within 5 years.

A local radio station cited a poll this morning. I believe it was the USA Today poll asking ~900 people the question: If Terri was your daughter would you want her to live or to die? I'm pretty sure the poll went 60% in favor of dying.

Its only a matter of time before Planned Parenthood rolls out a program to legally profit from Euthanasia. You can be certain they've already had plnning meetings about it. Could this be why Gloria Feldt left so abruptly? Perhaps her mom or dad is elderly and infirm.

The culture of death pervades through every chink and keyhole. Pray like your life depends on it, because if Terri dies at our hands, it will.

Please God, save us from ourselves. Your will be done.


61 posted on 03/22/2005 11:16:51 AM PST by OriginalChristian (JPII - We Love You...)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Pamela A.M. Campbell  was the attorney that lost the Terri Schiavo trial.

Although she no longer works as a lobbyist, she remains active in politics. She is a member of the Suncoast Tiger Bay Club and a former board member for the organization. "One of our greatest rights as Americans is our responsibility to speak out and participate," she says."I have two times every year when I make an evaluation of my life and decide what I should do differently," she says. "Those days are July 15, my birthday, and New Year's Eve.http://www.stpetebar.com/index_frame.htm?http://www.stpetebar.com/v3_giv_campbell.htm

 


62 posted on 03/22/2005 11:17:42 AM PST by watchdog_writer
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To: somerville

Done.


63 posted on 03/22/2005 11:20:15 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Hey everyone - should you get a "private'" mail message from odoso - I recommend you don't bother to open it.

here's one he/she/it sent to me:

""so let Terri be murdered..." I said nothing of the kind, so don't go putting words in my mouth you piece of shit loser."

As a professional writer, myself, I find it amusing that some have such a limited vocabulary.

64 posted on 03/22/2005 11:28:09 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Prince Caspian

No - ypu questioned my integrity - I am not a news source - I question this story - I neither deny it is the truth nor do I knee jerk accept it because it makes me feel good.


65 posted on 03/22/2005 11:28:21 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: OriginalChristian
At the risk of repeating what I'm certain has been posted/replied here a thousand times, this case would be the bellweather Euthanasia case.

Nope. This (Shiavo) case stands for something else, for when the court is dysfunctional.

CRUZAN v. DIRECTOR, MDH, 497 US 261 (1990) <-- Link. US Supreme Court Case.

Woman in a PVS, eventually terminated via removal of feeding tube.

66 posted on 03/22/2005 11:31:52 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: TASMANIANRED

Right. Electoral politics.


67 posted on 03/22/2005 11:32:44 AM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; All

I don't know if this has been posted since I just returned from a dr. appt. but just in case, here it is. It is an e-mail from Cheryl Ford as of 2:00 pm:

I HAVE JUST FINISHED A CONVERSATION WITH A NURSE NAMED NORA. NORA IS A NURSE WHO HAS WORKED WITH TERRI AT HOSPICE. NORA AND I SPOKE FOR A LONG TIME. SHE IS A NURSE WHO HAS COME FORWARD FROM WOODSIDE HOSPICE AND HAS TOLD ME SHE IS APPALLED THAT THEY ARE DOING THIS TO TERRI. SHE TOLD ME TERRI LAUGHS WHEN SHE HAS TOLD HER JOKES.

YESTERDAY, NORA WAS TOLD BY THE AGENCY SHE WORKS FOR, THAT WOODSIDE HOSPICE DID NOT WANT HER BACK WORKING AT THE FACILITY. NORA HAS BEEN WORKING THERE FOR TWO YEARS AS AN AGENCY NURSE. NORA HAD DISAGREED WITH THE STAFF ON SUNDAY WITH REGARD TO WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO TERRI. YESTERDAY, AT 3:30 PM SHE RECEIVED A CALL FROM HER AGENCY SAYING WOODSIDE HOSPICE DID NOT WANT HER BACK.

NORA WILL BE ON HANNITY ON RADIO TODAY AT 2:00PM ET AND ON HANNITY TONIGHT AT 9:00PM ET WITH HER STORY.

I COMMEND THE NURSES IN MY PROFESSION FOR COMING FORWARD LIKE NORA JUST DID.

PLEASE WATCH YOUR EMAILS AND THE NEWS FOR FURTHER UPDATES.

CHERYL


68 posted on 03/22/2005 11:39:07 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Cboldt
Ah, but Nancy Cruzan was actually in a persistent vegetative state. That is the difference. Terri is not in the same condition.

As to the court being dysfunctional, I couldn't agree more, but so stated, we can't expect it to police itself. What recourse do we have under the rule of law to end the judicial tyranny?
69 posted on 03/22/2005 11:39:49 AM PST by OriginalChristian (JPII - We Love You...)
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To: ma bell

I have seen all the evidence in this case on Terri's Web site. All the evidence (not emotions) but sound hard evidence points to foul play and cover-up. I am a Registered Nurse and I trust Terri's nurse who spoke out in her behalf. I ask you, why, for the last 10 years, after receiving almost $3,000,000 in a medical mal-practice suit on Terri's behalf for her rehab did he deny her this? What are his motives? He has paid hundreds of thousands of $$$ to his pro-death attorney to get rid of her out of her rehab money. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I base mine on the facts presented.

http://www.terrisfight.org. Do the research, you'll find lots of solid evidence that the Judge wouldn't even look at!


70 posted on 03/22/2005 11:40:11 AM PST by Daisy4
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
She also saw a vial of "insulin concealed in the trash bin."

How convenient. Apparently he, too, has no living cerebral cortex, and thus didn't have the intellect to take away the evidence.

It seems to me that between this absurd account and the forged affidavit, the right-to-lifers are being Rather punk'd.

71 posted on 03/22/2005 11:45:06 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: OriginalChristian
Ah, but Nancy Cruzan was actually in a persistent vegetative state. That is the difference. Terri is not in the same condition.

I was just pointing out that Schiavo is not the original euthanasia case.

With regard to Terri, there are at least two problems with the conditions legally required to stop feeding her. If either one of these conditions is not met, then Greer's ultimate ruling is in error.

First, the law must find that Terri would stop eating of her own choice, if she could make that choice. Greer's court relied on testimony of three Schiavo's to reach this conclusion (Michael, his brother and his brother's wife. There was conflicting testimony). Second, that she is in fact in a PVS. Experts testified as to this, and the evidence is not unequivocal.

72 posted on 03/22/2005 11:45:38 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Hatteras
Heck, well at least she has her story in writing.

Yes, that Iyer has her thoughts and opinions written and notarized is more than we have from Terri.

73 posted on 03/22/2005 11:46:20 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: OriginalChristian; Cboldt
That's the crux of the matter - there are those on here that don't want to pull the tubes even on people wo are in a persistent vegetative state and those that don't want to pull the plug on Terri because they do not buy that she is in a persistent vegetative state (this group I think is in the majority).

If the court ordered one last round of in depth all out examinations to determone if she was in a PVS then I am guessing the story would die down. There woul dstill be the reactionary crowd but the moral majority would be satisfied.

No one I asked ever answers me back on this point though - if Terri is found to be ina PVS after all these new tests - would they advocate pulling the feeding tube?

74 posted on 03/22/2005 11:46:40 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: OriginalChristian
Ah, but Nancy Cruzan was actually in a persistent vegetative state. That is the difference. Terri is not in the same condition.

Oh, one more point. I think it is wrong to stop feeding people, unless they have expressed specifically that they would rather starve to death.

I live in a northern climate, and my Living Will says that I am to be taken outside and frozen to death. Beats starving, just on the time factor. (just kidding, but you get my drift. Food and shelter are basic necessities. But seriously, if I had to choose? If I was in a warm place but had no food? I'd rather die by freezing.)

75 posted on 03/22/2005 11:48:35 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: somerville

I think it was a feed. You could see her when she spoke.


76 posted on 03/22/2005 11:49:31 AM PST by Netizen (jmo)
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To: Destro
No one I asked ever answers me back on this point though - if Terri is found to be ina PVS after all these new tests - would they advocate pulling the feeding tube?

The object is to abide by the patient's wishes. Based on what I have heard about the evidence, I am not convinced by the standard of "preponderance," let alone "clear and convincing," that Terri would choose starvation for herself. In fact, if anything, the prepondeance of evidence points the other way, that she would NOT starve herself to death.

77 posted on 03/22/2005 11:51:03 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Its been removed, what was it?


78 posted on 03/22/2005 11:51:33 AM PST by Netizen (jmo)
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To: TASMANIANRED

She is repeating what she testified to in a deposition.


79 posted on 03/22/2005 11:52:03 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Darkwolf377
Great points!

If I denied my wife access to her parents and medical treatment, would I not be nailed for spousal neglect?

What about all the Christian fringe groups that denie their children treatment, dont the courts always step in?

The law treats these cases differently, but why should it?
And if the law fails us, we have no access to justice, no access to peaceful recourse...then there will be other than peaceful recourse. This goes beyond the right to life.

I know for a fact that if this was my sister, Mikey would spend the rest of his worthless life sucking oatmeal through a straw and filling his depends. I doubt there are to many on FR that would let the Judicial System aid and abet the murder of their own.
80 posted on 03/22/2005 11:52:04 AM PST by Dead Dog (T)
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