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A Debate That Cannot Be Ignored (Is immigration good for NC? John Locke Foundation)
A Carolina Journal Exclusive ^ | March 23, 2005 | John Hood of the John Locke Foundation

Posted on 03/23/2005 6:50:06 AM PST by TaxRelief

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To: JohnnyZ
Obviously we should crank up legal immigration.

I'm going to hope you're being sarcastic or else you're just suffering from some stray brain flatulence. The problem is floods of immigrants with no skills and no life who land somewhere and immediately go on public assistance. The only way to prevent that is to have strict standards for immigration.

21 posted on 03/24/2005 5:22:08 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: NCSteve
I'm going to hope you're being sarcastic

No sarcasm. It's just too obvious for people to accept.

22 posted on 03/24/2005 6:36:07 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: TaxRelief
What control would I have over anyone on the floor?

Blaming him, not you. But I was shocked that y'all would start out by asking for more time. Nobody wants to hear all that. I sure don't. There's no need for it. If anyone's gonna speak longer it's the nominee. Four hours of stupid speeches and arguments and votes, 99% BS??? You don't want to be seen suggesting lengthening that in any way.

But really, the quality of the speech .... look, I'm no Cicero myself, but that's the point of knowing your limitations, and he would have been far better off if he'd wanted LESS time, not more.

23 posted on 03/24/2005 6:45:36 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: JohnnyZ

So then can I take it you are in favor of more aliens with no skills and no place to live flooding in and increasing the welfare ranks and living off the fruits of our labor?

Help me out here. I'm trying really hard to find an upside.


24 posted on 03/24/2005 8:17:52 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: NCSteve
So then can I take it you are in favor of more aliens with no skills and no place to live flooding in and increasing the welfare ranks and living off the fruits of our labor?

I would not provide easy access to welfare.

Yes, I would certainly be welcoming to immigrants coming here to work hard and make a better living. I have friends and relatives who have done just that, and our society has benefitted tremendously as a result.

Do you know how many jokes Mexicans make about how damn lazy Americans are?

25 posted on 03/24/2005 10:30:27 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: JohnnyZ
Yes, I would certainly be welcoming to immigrants coming here to work hard and make a better living.

Trouble is, you can't have it both ways. In order to separate the many folks who want to come here and improve themselves from the ne'er-do-wells and bums, you have to have a process. That takes time. Unfortunately, it also usually means bureaucracy. Any process that simply blesses illegals as legals, or shortcuts the process of weeding out undesirables is going to result in a bigger mess than we have now.

That's the problem I have with Bush's guest worker program. It gives amnesty to existing illegals, assuming they are not undesirables and then lets them become guest workers. I have no issue with a guest worker program as long as it is under control, but illegals need to return to their home country and apply for the program.

Do you know how many jokes Mexicans make about how damn lazy Americans are?

I've made more than a few of those myself.

26 posted on 03/24/2005 10:38:29 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: TaxRelief

If America REALLY wants to do something about illegal aliens, FIRST, we need to quit paying Americans for not doing those jobs Americans won't do. Cut out welfare - totally.


27 posted on 03/24/2005 10:47:26 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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...we need to quit paying Americans for not doing those jobs Americans won't do. Cut out welfare - totally.

Excellent point.

28 posted on 03/24/2005 11:06:58 AM PST by TaxRelief (March for Justice, April 7, Washington DC)
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