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DCF Considers Removing Schiavo from Hospice by Force
Palm Beach Post ^ | 3.23.05 | Dara Kam

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by gopwinsin04

State officials say they are considering removing Terri Schiavo from hospice, by force if necessary, despite numerous court orders upholding the removal of the artificial nutrition tube that has kept her alive for 15 years.

Lucy Hadl, secretary of the Department of Children and Families, said Wednesday morning that her staff is relying on a state law that gives the department the authority to intervene on behalf of a vulnerable adult who is 'suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury.'

Hadl said that the DCF would have to file a petition in order to remove Schiavo, but that 'it doesn't mean we'd have to have judicial approval in advance of taking the action if we believed it met the threshold for doing it.'

Hadl said that seven years of court rulings backing Schiavo's husband Michael, in his contention that Terri Schiavo did not wish to be kept alive artificially would not stop the DCF from taking action.

'We're not compelled to look at prior judicial proceedings,' Hadl said.

What we are compelled to look at is the presenting circumstances and any allegiations of abuse and neglect that we have recieved. So we have to deal with those and fufill out statutory responsibility.'

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: FL_engineer
EVIL PROSPERS WHEN GOOD PEOPLE DO NOTHING....

where are the good people....

and when will they do something.....

if not for Terri, for the millions who will be killed by the state because this will set a precedent.....

21 posted on 03/23/2005 2:40:37 PM PST by cherry
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To: Keith in Iowa

Like your tag line. Can we add: . . . with a hole in it?


22 posted on 03/23/2005 2:40:49 PM PST by pa mom
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To: gopwinsin04

15 minutes from now would be okay by me. A couple hundred armed state troopers and some medical personnel. Sirens.


23 posted on 03/23/2005 2:41:12 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: MisterRepublican
"Some unknown judge is now the governor of Florida."

Yep, and for that, Terri is going to die.

24 posted on 03/23/2005 2:41:35 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: gopwinsin04

GO GO GO GO GO DCF

To hell with these courts and their DEATH JUDGES. I hope the all ROT IN HELL


25 posted on 03/23/2005 2:41:44 PM PST by Herbie (Herb)
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To: gopwinsin04

Hey, if it worked for Elián, it may work for Terri...


26 posted on 03/23/2005 2:41:48 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Enterprise

>>>Probably not. If the Judge gave one order to the cops and the Governor gave a counter order, the cops would stand down.

You think so? Some might, but others might not...

As an aside, I wonder who's picking up the tab for all that police protection at the hospice?


27 posted on 03/23/2005 2:41:52 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Michael Schiavo = Scott Peterson - 1 boat.)
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To: CatOwner
Sadly, it's not going to happen

I don't think so either. But I have to wonder why they've even issued such a statement.

Makes me think that:

a)They really mean it....least likely I think.

b)This is a show down, literally, of the judiciary and the executive branch. The statement is part of the grand bluff.

c)They don't mean a word of it and are just covering their bureaucratic butts.

I'd go with B. Everything done to date is bluff stuff. Issuing the congressional subpoena, hinting that Florida's DCF would get involved. I think last weekend's congressional action was NOT a bluff. But the other things were done to creat a bluff.

In the end I do not see armed guards going in and kidnaping Terri.

although I'd sure like ti.

28 posted on 03/23/2005 2:42:04 PM PST by Fishtalk (Pop Culture and Political Pundit-http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Servant of the 9

What order exactly would they be in contempt of?


29 posted on 03/23/2005 2:42:04 PM PST by thoughtomator (Murder by Judges, 1 - 2 - 3, it's as easy to learn as your ABCBSCNNMSNBCs)
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To: gopwinsin04

IF this happens, I pray it's in time for Terri.

I have a disturbingly persistent feeling that Terri would die on Good Friday. I hope that's just a result of upset over this entire thing.


30 posted on 03/23/2005 2:42:13 PM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: The Other Harry
what are they waiting for....for Terri to die and it to be a moot point?

do we have any Christians out there?

31 posted on 03/23/2005 2:42:22 PM PST by cherry
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To: NautiNurse

Bring it on.


32 posted on 03/23/2005 2:42:33 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Keith in Iowa

33 posted on 03/23/2005 2:42:48 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: CedarDave
I don't believe Jeb is a wimp.

We may, however, witness a showdown in the Hospice parking lot between local cops and the state cops.

34 posted on 03/23/2005 2:42:51 PM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: truthluva

I may have misunderstood, but from what I have heard on Sean Hannity's radio show, I think DCF got a call from a Mayo Clinic doctor (a "renowned" neurologist), who has examined films, records of Terri and thinks she is in a state of "minimal consciousness", rather than a "persistent or permanent vegetative state".


35 posted on 03/23/2005 2:43:14 PM PST by unfortunately a bluestater
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To: NautiNurse

No crisis...this how the balance of powers should work

I am guessing the DFC is part of the Executive branch...so the Executive branch of the state government ignores the court ruling...the judicial branch may (or may not) request that the legislative branch intercede (the threat of impeachment of the governor would be the extreme intercession) and either the legislative branch follows or ignores the judicial branch

the balance of powers playing out...its a beautiful thing...I wish more legislatures and executives had the guts to say to the courts..."no...you're not the final word on every issue...we are co-equal, not subordinate branches"


36 posted on 03/23/2005 2:43:19 PM PST by Irontank
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To: NautiNurse

That'll be an interesting scene.


37 posted on 03/23/2005 2:43:39 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Fishtalk
"But I have to wonder why they've even issued such a statement."

To cover themselves, all the way to Jeb. It gives the impressions that they tried to stop the starvation (killing), but the courts (judges) stopped them.

38 posted on 03/23/2005 2:43:40 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Enterprise
As the Pinellas Park PD are a municipal force, are they answerable to Governor Bush, as, say, the Florida State Police would be? If they are not, then Judge Greer's order cannot be countermanded by Governor Bush. He may then need state troopers or the National Guard to support social workers removing Terri Schiavo.
39 posted on 03/23/2005 2:44:06 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: anyone

This is slightly off topic, but what was the e-mail address to the white house? I know it's been posted recently, but I can't seem to figure out the search system here.
Thanks


40 posted on 03/23/2005 2:44:19 PM PST by justche (praying for Teri)
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