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30-day penalty sought for cop: Denver chief makes recommendation in killing of invalid
Rocky Mountain News ^ | March 17, 2005 | Brian D. Crecente And Javier Erik Olvera

Posted on 03/23/2005 3:21:02 PM PST by billorites

Police Chief Gerry Whitman recommended that Ranjan Ford Jr. receive a 30-day suspension for shooting and killing an unarmed invalid last summer.

That Monday recommendation is 10 days more than the suspension Whitman recommended for officer James Turney, who fatally shot Paul Childs, a developmentally disabled teen, in July 2003.

"I think a 30-day suspension is an arbitrary and capricious number," said Mike Mosco, president of the Denver Police Protective Association "We stand behind Ranjan and we are going to ensure that his due process rights are protected and enforced."

The mother of Lobato's three children, Christina Gomez, said Wednesday she couldn't believe Whitman's suggested discipline.

"This is absurd, unbelievable," said Gomez, reached at her home in Sacramento, Calif. "(Ford) should be fired - off the force completely."

If it were someone other than a law enforcement officer who fired the fatal shot, he would be in jail and not given a slap on the wrist, she said.

"Because (Ford) is a police officer doesn't give them the right to excuse him," she said. "There should be criminal charges against him."

Whitman remained tight-lipped Wednesday about his recommendation to Manager of Safety Al LaCabe, who makes the final decision on police discipline, but three police sources verified that it was 30 days.

News of the recommendation quickly spread throughout the police department. A fax sent out from District Six asked officers to donate to a fund established to help with Ford's expenses if the recommended suspension goes through.

LaCabe has 15 days from the day he received the recommendation in which to make the final decision in the case and write a report.

Lobato, 63, was shot July 11 in a west Denver home as he lay in bed watching television, after Ford apparently mistook a soda can in the man's hand for a weapon.

Ford had climbed into the home through a second-floor window to search for Lobato's nephew in connection with a domestic violence call. Police were unaware that the nephew had fled the home.

Two police supervisors who were at the home when the decision was made to go through the window were given oral reprimands for their role in the incident.

In December, a grand jury decided not to indict Ford in the shooting, and then-District Attorney Bill Ritter declined to file charges.

In January, the American Civil Liberties Union sent a letter to Ritter's office challenging the fact that the case file would remain closed because a grand jury had reviewed it.

On March 4, the district attorney's office responded, saying the case file would be available to the public following LaCabe's decision.

Mark Silverstein, legal director of ACLU of Colorado, raised concerns that the decision to wait until after the internal affairs investigation is concluded was a shift in policy.

But Deputy District Attorney Chuck Lepley said Wednesday that the Lobato case was being handled differently because of many unique aspects. "This is not a change in policy," he said. "We want the public to know everything they can about a (police-involved shooting) case."

The district attorney's office is in the process of reviewing the case file to see which portions can be opened to public review, Lepley said.

He said the intention is to have the case file ready for review when LaCabe makes his decision.

Ford, a Denver police officer since 2001, is back on the job, but not on patrol duty. He has declined to discuss the case with reporters.

The shooting could lead to federal action. Lobato family attorney Kenneth Padilla said Lobato's relatives may file a federal civil rights lawsuit. The Department of Justice also is weighing whether to intervene.

Lobato's death has been especially difficult on Gomez's three children, Frank Jr., 28, Anthony, 26, and Barbara, 25, whose feeling range from anger to sadness, she said.

Lobato's sister, Esperanza "Hope" Gonzales, of Thornton, was also surprised by the news, saying it's not enough punishment.

Correspondent Marilyn Robinson contributed to this report.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado
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1 posted on 03/23/2005 3:21:02 PM PST by billorites
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To: billorites

How the heck are we supposed to know which unarmed invalids are in season and which aren't?


2 posted on 03/23/2005 3:24:07 PM PST by Spok
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To: billorites

I thought it was okay to kill invalids. Maybe they should give him a promotion.


3 posted on 03/23/2005 3:24:56 PM PST by speedy
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To: billorites
Police Chief Gerry Whitman recommended that Ranjan Ford Jr. receive a 30-day suspension for shooting and killing an unarmed invalid last summer.

Where the Heck did you think you were, Chief? Florida?!

4 posted on 03/23/2005 3:25:09 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: mewzilla

Chief=Ford


5 posted on 03/23/2005 3:25:26 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: billorites
"Lobato, 63, was shot July 11 in a west Denver home as he lay in bed watching television, after Ford apparently mistook a soda can in the man's hand for a weapon.

Ford had climbed into the home through a second-floor window to search for Lobato's nephew in connection with a domestic violence call."

I am loath to beat up on cops, but...

This is an egregious example of abuse and an example of 'circling the wagons' by law enforcement.

6 posted on 03/23/2005 3:27:13 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: speedy
"I thought it was okay to kill invalids."

No, can't kill.

Gotta "let him die."

7 posted on 03/23/2005 3:28:44 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: speedy

Well, it is. But they have to do it slowly and painfully, by starving them to death.


8 posted on 03/23/2005 3:29:09 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: billorites
Gotta "let him die."

But only after you critically injure them first....

9 posted on 03/23/2005 3:29:37 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: billorites
Lobato, 63, was shot July 11 in a west Denver home as he lay in bed watching television, after Ford apparently mistook a soda can in the man's hand for a weapon.

I understand drinking soda is bad for your health but...

10 posted on 03/23/2005 3:29:49 PM PST by Smogger
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To: speedy

Step away from the Sprite and put your hands on your head.

11 posted on 03/23/2005 3:30:33 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites
This is an egregious example of abuse and an example of 'circling the wagons' by law enforcement.

Which is why some people, myself among them, have lost all respect for law enforcement.

12 posted on 03/23/2005 3:30:57 PM PST by Smogger
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To: billorites
"Lobato, 63, was shot July 11 in a west Denver home as he lay in bed watching television, after Ford apparently mistook a soda can in the man's hand for a weapon.

"He hates these cans."

13 posted on 03/23/2005 3:32:12 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Spok
The judges would have the invalid die of THRIST so maybe it was better that the cop murdered him.
14 posted on 03/23/2005 3:32:16 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: billorites

This is an outrage...how much longer are we, the American citizenry going to tolerate this type of BS? It's clearly time to outlaw soda now!!


15 posted on 03/23/2005 3:33:43 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Smogger
"Which is why some people, myself among them, have lost all respect for law enforcement."

Most people, and professions, when confronted or in crisis 'circle the wagons.'

Police, unlike schoolteachers or nurses, come heavily armed and primed for confrontation.

That's why we support the second amendment.

So that the police fear us.

16 posted on 03/23/2005 3:34:30 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

Yeah. I could understand if it was Tab or something deadly, but Sprite can only cause minor injuries in most cases.


17 posted on 03/23/2005 3:34:40 PM PST by speedy
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To: Spok

This is true MURDER. And what happens - NOT A THING. I will rethink my support for the police. They are no above the law. And should be held accountable - Unless the judge ordered the bedridden person to die of THRIST.


18 posted on 03/23/2005 3:35:37 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Joe 6-pack

If criminals ever get their hands on cases of Diet Fanta, it will be curtains for all of us.


19 posted on 03/23/2005 3:36:54 PM PST by speedy
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To: speedy

"I thought it was okay to kill invalids. Maybe they should give him a promotion."

Only in Florida.


20 posted on 03/23/2005 3:38:50 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: billorites

"If it were someone other than a law enforcement officer who fired the fatal shot, he would be in jail and not given a slap on the wrist, she said."

That says it all. Civilians are expendable serfs and cops are above the law.


21 posted on 03/23/2005 3:38:57 PM PST by monday
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To: billorites

Law suit coming down the pike..and if the officer is suspended is it an admission of guilt fueling a likely larger settlement?


22 posted on 03/23/2005 3:41:24 PM PST by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: speedy
"If criminals ever get their hands on cases of Diet Fanta..."

We need to start keeping tabs on the buyers of aluminum cans.

23 posted on 03/23/2005 3:41:46 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Joe 6-pack

Keeping tabs -- aluminum cans -- Joe, is this the start of another pun thread? Say it ain't so -- none "pop" into my head just now.


24 posted on 03/23/2005 3:44:27 PM PST by speedy
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To: speedy

Oh, I dunno about another pun thread, but this should make ya take a double take! :-)

Signed, Joe


25 posted on 03/23/2005 3:46:02 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: Joe 6-pack

<|:-)~~


26 posted on 03/23/2005 3:47:17 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: speedy; JoeSixPack1
..."none "pop" into my head just now."

That's a shame...you're not your usual effervescent self. Don't keep yourself bottled up; just keep thinking, "I CAN!!"

It will cure all that ale's you.

27 posted on 03/23/2005 3:49:42 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Joe 6-pack

Aw man, I have to go to dinner just when this is getting good. At least I know you'll be on "top" of things with your usual spritely commentary.


28 posted on 03/23/2005 3:54:40 PM PST by speedy
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To: speedy
A couple of things.

First, the Rocky Mountain News is a well know Liberal organization (Communist) and

Second, how do you know it wasn't a "Coke" can? If I'm not mistaken, Coke is still illegal in this country.

29 posted on 03/23/2005 4:03:28 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: billorites
Manager of Safety Al LaCabe

For those of you who don't know anything about Denver, this person would be called a "Sheriff" in other parts of the country. Denver, however, is an oasis where both the police chief and sheriff are appointed. There is no top law enforcement official in Denver who is directly accountable to the people.

IMHO, this results in cronyism, a lack of accountability, and cultivates a good-old-boy network. This suspension is but another example of it.

30 posted on 03/23/2005 4:04:38 PM PST by andyk
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To: speedy

If you're not going to be here, I'll just put the puns on ice for now.


31 posted on 03/23/2005 4:04:51 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Joe 6-pack

Keeping a positive flow, you can always tap into a barrel of jovial spirits. Just hops for the best and your dreams will eventually ferment into happiness.

:)


32 posted on 03/23/2005 4:15:41 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: Spok

A few years back, the cops in one of the southern Maine towns, killed a wheelchair bound fellow that was threatening to kill himself with a knife. All the inquiries said it was justified.


33 posted on 03/23/2005 4:16:16 PM PST by brooklin
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To: Smogger

I love it when they all take time off to go to some other officers funeral.


34 posted on 03/23/2005 4:18:45 PM PST by brooklin
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To: JoeSixPack1
I appreciate your heady optimism...I've always known that you're a "glass half full," kind of guy. I've seen your mug in that pitcher on your profile, and you look like a confident guy.
35 posted on 03/23/2005 4:21:50 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Joe 6-pack

In the foam of life, you're heads above the rest! :-)


36 posted on 03/23/2005 4:28:28 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: JoeSixPack1
"...you're heads above the rest!"

I was always taught to be a liter...

37 posted on 03/23/2005 4:33:15 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Joe 6-pack

Some stouts don't have rathskellers, others have too many. The trick is to barrel your way in, without being too refreshing!


38 posted on 03/23/2005 4:42:36 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: JoeSixPack1

You make a good case...but this is getting almost un-beer-able so I think I may pack it in. I'm sloe-ing down so, bar-ring any objections from you, I'm going to settle up and leave this thread....I think we've pretty well tapped it for all it's worth and I'm feeling pretty drained.


39 posted on 03/23/2005 4:55:27 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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40 posted on 03/23/2005 4:55:43 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: YOUGOTIT
This is true MURDER. And what happens - NOT A THING. I will rethink my support for the police. They are no above the law.

Umm dude what country do you think you are living in? The cops have been above the law since the early 80s when the war on drugs got kicked up a notch there have been hundreds of unarmed people killed by the police in the last 20-30 years or so and i can rember a total of 5 going to jail for it and one of those five was only for 4 years and he was out in 2

41 posted on 03/23/2005 5:00:05 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: Joe 6-pack; speedy; JoeSixPack1; Rennes Templar

And here I just had my en-gin revved up to serve a few myself.

I guess it's inevitable that the topic would go flat, but I didn't expect that it'd fizzle out so soon. I figured its pop-ularity would last a little longer. Just goes to show you that sometimes the Barq of a topic is worse than its bite. This place is just full of these little Jolts of reality.

Whatever. I'm not keeping my opinions bottled up, regardless. I think it's un-can-ny that this cop excused his behavior by saying he could see the guy 'pointing' the beverage at him. I can't even figure out how you'd point a soda can--it's just too much to swallow.


42 posted on 03/23/2005 5:24:45 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: LibertarianInExile; JoeSixPack1
Well, I was going to quit this thread, but you just opened a whole new can...

...I guess I'm like a Coke addict that keeps being recycled. I know it's not very cola but I just can't seem to put a lid on it, although I Fanta-size about being able to.

43 posted on 03/23/2005 5:35:00 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: freepatriot32
You are correct. Here in Florida they are now killing them with Tasers. The sad thing is that a good marine officer is being tried for murder when he was protecting himself in a combat zone and the cops get away with murder on a daily basis.
44 posted on 03/23/2005 5:45:38 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Joe 6-pack; JoeSixPack1; speedy; Rennes Templar

That's okay. IBCing the same compulsion in my own words. RC the other posts in this vein for even better examples. It'd be nice to be able to stop these from pouring out, but I'm tired...

and I think that'd take a lot more Pep, see?

But I do need to stop for a little while, since I'm at work and I gotta a lot of paperwork with filing deadlines today...

and I got a Mountain due.

Yoo hoo can continue doing these, more power to you. I got too much work Crush-ing down on me, and Dasani the tip of the iceberg. I might be laid back about getting it done personally, but I'm afraid of my boss getting angry if I don't get it done, so...

you could say I'm Mello, Yello.


45 posted on 03/23/2005 7:42:38 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: LibertarianInExile

My head just exploded.


46 posted on 03/23/2005 7:47:22 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: billorites
This is an egregious example of abuse and an example of 'circling the wagons' by law enforcement.

Of course it is. That and the very likely proposition that ford had enough dirt on others in the force that they didn't dare fire him. Happens all the time in law enforcement agencies; along with judges and prosecutors.

47 posted on 03/23/2005 7:52:47 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: LibertarianInExile; Joe 6-pack; JoeSixPack1; Rennes Templar

Okay Buds, I came back after a couple of hours away and see this still going on -- I feel I should Schlitz my wrists. If this a-Piels to you, okay, if you have that rye sense of humor. But at this point I'm barley awake and when I look at the screen I feel I should lager off. Better hop to it.


48 posted on 03/23/2005 8:20:43 PM PST by speedy
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To: Joe 6-pack; JoeSixPack1; speedy; Rennes Templar

Hey, grin and Beer it like the rest of us! If it's really putting you on your Duff, put a little Dab of smelling salts under your nose, and that'll lift you right off your Heineken. I have Schnapps yet begun to pun.

You can come back later, too, cause Ale line of humor like this will Still be Fermenting. It's Wort-h thinking about it.

But if you gotta leave, if you're sick of it, I understand. IPA a lot of folks off this way. It takes a Stout heart to put up with too much punning, and frankly, it puts some people's Bock up, gets them really Steamed. One too many Weiss cracks can overload ya. Do what Chimay, but Double Bock if you change your mind. Alt-bi-h[er]e, still Portering around.


49 posted on 03/23/2005 9:48:47 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: billorites
Lobato, 63, was shot July 11 in a west Denver home as he lay in bed watching television, after Ford apparently mistook a soda can in the man's hand for a weapon.

Awwwww, his eyeglasses were all fogged up. Oopsie.

50 posted on 03/23/2005 9:51:02 PM PST by The Red Zone
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