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Another Doctor In Support of Terri
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Posted on 03/23/2005 3:55:18 PM PST by blakep

Read this. Very Intresting.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 3nursestories; cary; getreportandindict; indict; indict4abuse; indict4insulinstory; indict4nursestory; indictmichaelshiavo; nursepolicereport; policereportfiled; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; whereispolicereport
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1 posted on 03/23/2005 3:55:18 PM PST by blakep
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To: blakep

Very powerful stuff. Which means it won't be seen in the MSM, and it certainly won't make it in to court.


2 posted on 03/23/2005 4:01:35 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: blakep

I read points 1 through 6 with a mixture of shock and horror. This is appalling.

Gov. Bush should send in the National Guard to protect her.


3 posted on 03/23/2005 4:01:59 PM PST by Snake65 (Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!)
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To: blakep

I don't follow blind links with no explanation. GREAT way to pick up a virus/worm/trojan


4 posted on 03/23/2005 4:02:57 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: blakep
I found a post on the google groups where a rehab therapist claimed she has had improvement with patients worse than Terri.

Of course, that is the net, and you can't know if it is true or not.

5 posted on 03/23/2005 4:05:16 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Torie; deadhead; JohnHuang2; Luis Gonzales; davidosborne; Jeff Head; general_re

This is Governor Bush's ace in the hole I suspect. I hope it gives him the fortitude to act.


6 posted on 03/23/2005 4:12:59 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: blakep

This doctor was on the Laura Ingraham show this morning. Laura was really angry today.


7 posted on 03/23/2005 4:14:03 PM PST by Nachum ( "Let everyone get a move on and take some hilltops! Whatever we take, will be ours- Ariel Sharon)
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To: blakep

That MS manipulated the system to get rid of her is too much for some people to grasp. Further independent review of this case is needed.


8 posted on 03/23/2005 4:15:09 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: blakep; jwalsh07
Everyone should read this.

jwalsh07, was going to post this on your thread, apparently your thread was pulled because it was a duplication of this one...

From the affidavit:

"Although I did not hear Terri utter distinct words, she demonstrates emotional expressivity by her use of single syllable vocalizations such as "ah," making cooing sounds"

Prayers for Terri and her loved ones

9 posted on 03/23/2005 4:17:00 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: blakep

Governor Bush needs to take her into protective custody and then have the Attny General or whom ever is doing the investigation subpoena the records from her time in the Rehabilation Hospital.

In those records will be extensive evaluations by Physical Rehabilation Physicans, from Speech Pathologists, Speech Therapists.

There will be a daily record of her progress or lack of progress.


10 posted on 03/23/2005 4:20:04 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Never let your life be determined by the prejudice of a Physician.)
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To: jwalsh07

No, I don't think so. Pity it was not alleged in the complaint that Terri is not in a PVS, but in a minimally conscious state. Then, voila, Whittemire could have taken conizance of this declartion in the injunction motion, at least the few bits of it that are not objectionable hearsay.


11 posted on 03/23/2005 4:21:03 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

I don't know about the law here but I know one thing, Judge Greer is incapable of rendering justice.


12 posted on 03/23/2005 4:27:23 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Torie

Am I misunderstanding? You found this doctor's affadavit to be mostly objectionable hearsay?


13 posted on 03/23/2005 4:29:47 PM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coleus

Can you ping the Catholic list here, they need to read this affadavit. Thanks.


14 posted on 03/23/2005 4:29:51 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: FL_engineer
I don't follow blind links with no explanation. GREAT way to pick up a virus/worm/trojan

You really should follow this link my friend, the affadavit is breathtaking.

15 posted on 03/23/2005 4:30:46 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: TASMANIANRED

Can the attny genreal have the state police go in and take Terri?

If so, I have the fax info I found on the web but I don't have a fax and can't call long distance. Here is the info if anyone has a fax to ask for help for Terri.


Main office mailing address
Office of Attorney General Charlie Crist
State of Florida
The Capitol PL-01
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
Main office telephone numbers
Switchboard: 850-414-3300
SunCom: 994-3300
Citizens Services: 850-414-3990
Florida Relay/TDD: 800-955-8771
Florida Toll Free: 1-866-966-7226
Fax: 850-410-1630
SunCom Fax: 210-1630


16 posted on 03/23/2005 4:30:58 PM PST by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: tutstar

Can you ping your list to this affadavit by Dr Cheshire filed today in Florida? It really needs to be widely dispersed.


17 posted on 03/23/2005 4:32:48 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


18 posted on 03/23/2005 4:32:56 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: blakep

If they don't prevail to keep her alive, the next very important issue should be to stop them from cremating her remains. The autopsy could be the only way to show what really caused her condition. I understand she had several broken bones.


19 posted on 03/23/2005 4:33:07 PM PST by RetSignman (God is watching)
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To: jwalsh07

Yep, although well, well I was going to mention Gibbs again, but people don't like me mentioning Gibbs, so I won't mention Gibbs. The whole thing is a tragedy. There really did need to be a new trial with the whole world watching. It would help clear the air, and also be educational. But it is not to be. No, I won't mention Gibbs again.


20 posted on 03/23/2005 4:33:31 PM PST by Torie
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To: jwalsh07; Ohioan from Florida; floriduh voter; pc93; amdgmary

ohioan has the poing list



thanks for letting me know jwalsh07


21 posted on 03/23/2005 4:35:08 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: Nightshift

poing


22 posted on 03/23/2005 4:35:25 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: Torie
Let me ask you a question here Torie.

IS the purpose of the law "process" or is it justice. Why would not the appeals court justices push Gibbs in the right direction in the interest of justice?

23 posted on 03/23/2005 4:35:52 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: tutstar

Did you read the affadavit tut?


24 posted on 03/23/2005 4:36:37 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Coop; jwalsh07

Yes, he is quoting what other people say for the truth of the matter asserted, that are not really part of merely a statement of his assumptions upon which he bases his expert opinion as to Terri's condition. The affidavit is meandering. It is not well done from a legal perspective. Some of the material shouuld have been placed in the text of the motion. No, I won't mention Gibbs again.


25 posted on 03/23/2005 4:36:44 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

He has seen her CT images. SHe has cortex left. My impression was there was no cortex, just cerebrospinal fluid writ large until I saw an image purported to be hers here at FR yesterday. I knew then she had cortex. I'm sick of being lied to.


26 posted on 03/23/2005 4:38:46 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

They did actually. Whittemire pushed more. It is not against the law to amend one's complaint. I know what I would have done I think on the appellate court given the extraordinary circumstances. I would have said that the pleading could be easily amended to render it likely that an injunction would issue, and given that Gibbs has the power to amend, and given further that when Gibbs finds time in his no doubt busy schedule to get around to amending the complaint, the case will be mooted by a corpse, I am going to order the feeding tube be reinstered, until the earlier of 1) Gibbs not filing an amended complaint and new motion within 5 days, or 2) Whittemire again denying such an injunction. That is what I would have done. But it could rightfully be characterized as an abuse of appellate court power. But I would have done it anyway. I would not have allowed Terri to die over a defective pleading which is curable. I just wouldn't. Period.


27 posted on 03/23/2005 4:44:06 PM PST by Torie
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28 posted on 03/23/2005 4:44:41 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: Torie; Coop; McGavin999; Saundra Duffy; deadhead; sinkspur; Jim Robinson; ambrose; All
"As I looked at Terri and she gazed directly back at me, I asked myself, if I were her attending physician, I could in good conscience withdraw her feeding and hydration. No, I could not. I could not withdraw life support if I were asked. I could not withhold hydration and nutrition from this beautiful lady whose face brightens in the presence of others." Dr William Cheshire after spending 90 minutes with Terri Schiavo. Taken from his affadavit dated 3/23/05.
29 posted on 03/23/2005 4:46:22 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

I hear the Pastor at the church he was attending asked him to find someplace else.Were I his pastor I would dothe same
not for any reason except he would be a DISTRACTION.Many would not go to church with the man who set the court down
the Wrong trail. IF our government was instituted to secure the God given Right to life and our law,if it is to be valid -not to contradict Divine Law then Judge Greer was not merely wrongheaded but acted unlawfully--unless of course we really are Nazi Germany of the 1930's and not the US of A.


30 posted on 03/23/2005 4:46:52 PM PST by StonyBurk
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To: deadhead

Amazing, I just hand copied the same paragraph. Guess we are blood related. :-}


31 posted on 03/23/2005 4:47:33 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Torie

God bless ya then.


32 posted on 03/23/2005 4:48:51 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: blakep

Shocking. Especially the part about her feeling pain being inconsistent with a diagnosis of PVS. I hope there's a lot of medical and legal malpractice suits going to be files because of all the mistakes being made. AFTER Terri is saved...


33 posted on 03/23/2005 4:52:04 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (An engineer turning teacher (unless I come back to my senses!))
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To: FL_engineer

It's National Review, they're safe.


34 posted on 03/23/2005 4:53:50 PM PST by hobson
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To: jwalsh07
"Amazing, I just hand copied the same paragraph."

Wow, that is amazing.....'great minds', 'compassionate minds' think alike :-)
Yes, no doubt who our folks are :-)

35 posted on 03/23/2005 4:54:21 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: jwalsh07

YES!

It confirms what Terri's parents have been saying. I pray DCF will act and show the lawless in Pinellas who is boss!


36 posted on 03/23/2005 4:57:13 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: tutstar

Me too tut, me too.


37 posted on 03/23/2005 4:58:04 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: restornu

Over here, ping your list. Truth is our friend.


38 posted on 03/23/2005 4:59:13 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Ohioan from Florida

Ping


39 posted on 03/23/2005 4:59:39 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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................................Florida Health Care is Hazards to your Health!


40 posted on 03/23/2005 5:01:56 PM PST by restornu (CTR Keep lifting up one another!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul; Kitty Mittens; Bellflower; Lady Eileen

Check out this affidavit


41 posted on 03/23/2005 5:03:08 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: jwalsh07

I hope they have the best neurologists in the country available when they get her to the hospital.


42 posted on 03/23/2005 5:04:06 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: jwalsh07

It's unbelievable how cruel some people can be! If Terri isn't saved there will be more.


43 posted on 03/23/2005 5:04:41 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: Nachum

Laura has been angry all week.


44 posted on 03/23/2005 5:05:32 PM PST by demlosers (Soylent Green is made in Florida)
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To: Torie

I found the affadavit quite detailed, compelling, with numerous footnotes. "Obectionable hearsay" is a far cry from accurate, IMHO.


45 posted on 03/23/2005 5:06:13 PM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: deadhead

Rush made a good point today. Those who are saying Terri is feels no pain are the same people saying the process is euphoric. Which is it? If she can experience euphoria she can certainly experience pain.


46 posted on 03/23/2005 5:07:11 PM PST by hobson
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To: Coop
God bless Pat and those like him.

The affadavit is like a smack across Judge Greers face. The Doc reads the Ct scan and says there is cortex. Nobody knows how much cortex is required for consciousness. That combined with his impressions formed in 90 minutes is more than enough to blow away clear and convincing evidence of PVS.

For pete's sake, the PVS expert that testified for Schiavo only spent 45 minutes there waving a damn balloon around.

47 posted on 03/23/2005 5:09:15 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Coop

Well you are entitled to your opinion. Frightening that folks pay me the big bucks for mine on this sort of thing. There are a few useful bits to the affidavit, althought even there some it is is rather conclusory, like she smiled at me.


48 posted on 03/23/2005 5:10:22 PM PST by Torie
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To: blakep

I DO NOT SEE HOW THEY CAN SAY THE ALLEDGED TREATMENT OF THOSE PRISONERS WAS INHUMANE AND TURN AROUND AND STARVE A PERSON TO DEATH.

This is beyond belief. It is high time we start looking at our judicial system. After all, the courts are not and should not be the end all of everything.

And the persons responsible should be charged with murder, pure and simple


49 posted on 03/23/2005 5:10:47 PM PST by freekitty
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To: blakep

BTTT!


50 posted on 03/23/2005 5:11:00 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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