Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

"Talking Points" Story Imploding? (Repub "memo") WaPoGate!!!
Powerlineblog ^ | 3-23-05 | Hindrocket (powerline blog)

Posted on 03/23/2005 5:25:25 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite

ABC News, the original source of the story on the alleged "GOP talking points" memo now appears to be backing off the story. Blogger Josh Clayborn has been talking to ABC representatives, both on and off the record, and they are now telling him that they never meant to imply that the "talking points" memo originated with the Republicans--only that it was given to some Republican Senators. See his most recent posts at In the Agora.

ABC's current position, as reported by Josh, makes little sense, as their coverage certainly did say that this was a Republican memo. (ABC's website described the memo as containing "GOP talking points.") But the fact that they are now backing off suggests that in reality, they have no idea where the memo came from.

Doubts are starting to appear in other quarters, as well. Just a little while ago, the memo's authenticity was discussed on MSNBC; the fact that bloggers have questioned the memo's provenance was discussed, and at least one guest expressed the opinion that the memo is a Democratic dirty trick.

Finally, we got this email from a staffer for a conservative Republican Senator:

Regarding this phantom “strategy memo” about Terri Schiavo, I can say with almost complete certainty that this memo did not get passed out by Republicans. For starters, nobody up here who knows anything about the Senate refers to last week’s activities as “the Budget Act” (bullet point #2). We didn’t work on the Budget Act last week; we worked on the budget resolution. It may sound like a silly, semantic point to make, but that statement in particular jumped out at me.

Next, there was absolutely no need to take action “before the Budget Act” was pending business. Action could be taken at any time to vote on the Schiavo resolution. In fact, Senators Reid and Frist tried to do exactly that, but were blocked in their request for unanimous consent by Sen. Wyden. On this same note, the budget resolution was “pending business” all week! Debate and votes on the budget resolution began Monday, March 14. Why would we pass out a memo instructing Senators to do something BEFORE the budget resolution was being debated in the middle of debate over the budget resolution? That would be like passing out a memo during the 7th inning of a baseball game instructing us to take batting practice or stretch before the game started. It makes no sense.

I was on and off the Senate floor all throughout the week, including during the Thursday night vote-a-rama. The only piece of literature that I saw being distributed was a simple list of amendments that were being voted on, and it had the Majority Whip’s name on it. No talking points, no summaries – just a simple card with a list of stacked amendments. My boss never received this alleged Schiavo memo. And trust me, given the ideological leaning of my boss, if anybody were to see this memo, it would be him.

I have not talked to any GOP staffers up here who have seen this phantom memo. Nobody I know received any e-mails containing anything even remotely close to this memo. Granted, nothing I have offered is conclusive, but this whole issue really stinks of fraud.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abcia; abcnews; cary; dirtytricks; gopmemo; memo; mikeallen; powerlineblog; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; wapogate; wp
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-169 next last
To: Stellar Dendrite
I think you are right. If you decide to start a ping list for later please add me!
41 posted on 03/23/2005 5:43:54 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: mewzilla
Here is where I went to get permission.

Antonius. I do not know who the graphic artist is but they deserve a medal.

42 posted on 03/23/2005 5:44:42 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Never let your life be determined by the prejudice of a Physician.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Stellar Dendrite
This Sunday, Chris Wallace, host of Fox News Sunday, read from the memo in a question to Sen. Mel Martinez, who said he'd not seen the memo or even heard of it. Wallace made no indication that he was at all skeptical of the memo; he read from it as if it were a legitimate thing. I wonder if the issue will come up this coming Sunday?

I wish Fox would rethink its FNS host choice of Chris Wallace!

43 posted on 03/23/2005 5:44:43 PM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Stellar Dendrite
Finally, we got this email from a staffer for a conservative Republican Senator:

Regarding this phantom “strategy memo” about Terri Schiavo, I can say with almost complete certainty that this memo did not get passed out by Republicans.

Several of us called this pretty much off the bat. It was my suspicion two days ago.

44 posted on 03/23/2005 5:45:31 PM PST by cyncooper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cyclopean Squid

In 1972 Nixon was re-elected in one of the most massive landslide elections in U.S. political history, defeating George McGovern and garnering over 60% of the popular vote. He carried 49 of the 50 states, trailing only in Massachusetts.
Richard Nixon

Our Republic faced a grave threat to its existence when a single anonymous source vetoed Nixon's mandate.

45 posted on 03/23/2005 5:46:02 PM PST by Milhous
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: EllaMinnow; Mo1

Dem dirty trick PING


46 posted on 03/23/2005 5:46:13 PM PST by cyncooper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TASMANIANRED; Antoninus
Antonius. I do not know who the graphic artist is but they deserve a medal.

I'll second that. Antoninus, is that your work?

47 posted on 03/23/2005 5:47:10 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Stellar Dendrite

Good job:)


48 posted on 03/23/2005 5:47:11 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Diva Betsy Ross

Will do, adding your name now :)


I just need some help from anyone who wants to get involved, we could flood Rush's, Sean's, etc email box.....

As stated before, I cannot let this issue die. It is too important, and the fraud is so blatant. It will put more doubt in non-political junkie's mind about the lying propagandists in the MSM. They want terri to die quickly, I want to see them die even quicker.


49 posted on 03/23/2005 5:47:38 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Not everyone here is your FRiend, watch out for the "opinion shapers" (aka troll with an agenda))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: writer33; CWOJackson

PING!!!


50 posted on 03/23/2005 5:47:59 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Not everyone here is your FRiend, watch out for the "opinion shapers" (aka troll with an agenda))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diva Betsy Ross

BTW, I love your tagline ;)


51 posted on 03/23/2005 5:48:54 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Not everyone here is your FRiend, watch out for the "opinion shapers" (aka troll with an agenda))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: SpinyNorman
Where the hell have you been? Please tell me you forgot the /sarcasm switch!

I like to say things that are totally obviously sarcasm yet not signed as such just to see how many fish I can catch.

52 posted on 03/23/2005 5:50:01 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Stellar Dendrite
I know everyone is concentrating on Terri right now...

I'm not. So I'll be happy to pay attention to the main reason I come to FR -- politics.

53 posted on 03/23/2005 5:50:28 PM PST by Wolfstar (If you can lead, do it. If you can't, follow. If you can't do either, become a Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SpinyNorman
There is also what I call a "bias magnification" effect, as exemplified by the Boston Globe and Chris Matthews to name a few, where the alleged "source" of the memos keeps moving higher and higher up in the Republican leadership with each telling of the story.

I've been boycotting Chrissy. Was spittle flying?

What a jerk he is.

54 posted on 03/23/2005 5:52:02 PM PST by cyncooper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Diva Betsy Ross; All

"They want terri to die quickly, I want to see them die even quicker."

Oops, I hope my statement is not misconstrued. What I mean by this is I want their influence to die off more quickly, not the journalists themselves.


55 posted on 03/23/2005 5:52:04 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Not everyone here is your FRiend, watch out for the "opinion shapers" (aka troll with an agenda))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: cyncooper
Dem dirty trick

Do they do anything else?

The sure do have a history with memos

56 posted on 03/23/2005 5:54:43 PM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: cyncooper; SpinyNorman; All

"as exemplified by the Boston Globe and Chris Matthews to name a few, where the alleged "source" of the memos keeps moving higher and higher up in the Republican leadership with each telling of the story."


I pray to god that these individuals keep promoting this story. If you guys missed it, Lautenfraud called for an investigation into these memos:


"Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Investigation Into "Schiavo Talking Points" Circulated by Republican Leaders"
http://lautenberg.senate.gov/~lautenberg/press/2003/01/2005323939.html


I hope the above gains momentum as well....this will play into our favor because we can show that the memo is a fraud just like the Bush Nat'l Guard memo.


57 posted on 03/23/2005 5:55:51 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Not everyone here is your FRiend, watch out for the "opinion shapers" (aka troll with an agenda))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: Stellar Dendrite

It could even be authentic, but it's really cool watching this empty suits soil themselves so readily because they can't be sure they won't be Rathered.


58 posted on 03/23/2005 5:55:57 PM PST by AlbionGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Stellar Dendrite

They really should know by now that no democrat can word a document intelligently enough to fool anyone into believing it came from a republican. But bless their pointed little heads, they keep trying!


59 posted on 03/23/2005 5:56:09 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: spodefly

What's the frequency, Kenneth?


60 posted on 03/23/2005 5:59:25 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161-169 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson