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Sounds like these people never grew out of adolescence, when new things, belonging to cliques and short term entertainment were values: examples of immaturity. And the folks taking up space in Portland, Seattle and the other cities in the Times' story aren't forward looking in a social sense, only in money terms.
1 posted on 03/23/2005 8:37:01 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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Maybe if schools taught children how to be civilized members of society rather than little demons with high self esteem more people would want to have children.


2 posted on 03/23/2005 8:44:55 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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They also downplay the impact of so many homosexuals in these places. The numbers are far above the 2-3 percent figure you see for a national average. I would say in places like NYC and SF, it must be more like 15-20 percent.


3 posted on 03/23/2005 8:46:02 PM PST by speedy
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Where have all the children gone?

They were disposed of as medical waste by Planned Parenthood.
4 posted on 03/23/2005 8:47:21 PM PST by still_learning (The United Nations is simply Trotskyite plan B)
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I live about 10 minutes west of this district and my neighborhood is filled with kids. Here in Portland you can have a great neighborhood within a few minutes of downtown but at a way more affordable price. A minute from my front door we have a park, trails, our own boutique shopping center going in, a school up the road. Who needs expensive and cramped high rises, even if they're in a cool neighborhood?


7 posted on 03/23/2005 8:53:26 PM PST by Aria
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Ahh, the dead end culture of ME. Between the spoiled Yuppies and the Homo "creative" class, they truly are the evolutionary dead-enders. Keep aborting, considering that most of the kids aborted are from lefties, no wonder the country keeps voting futher right.


8 posted on 03/23/2005 8:55:40 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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I would rather someone with less maturity not be responsible for molding our youth, it is actually refreshing that they are refraining from having children. Usually immature people make immature decisions, and they usually involve children.


10 posted on 03/23/2005 8:58:29 PM PST by duck duck goose
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Wait till another 20 years pass and the city center will belong to the old and infirm. Wonder if they ever thought of who is going to take care of them? But then again, this "creative" class, just like our hubrissed CEOs doesn't have time to think of the future, there is to much in the here and now.


11 posted on 03/23/2005 8:59:04 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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But now the school will be shuttered, and improvements from Portland's beloved light rail line have contributed to rising real estate prices, defeating the broad goals of the mayor's effort to bring and keep young families in the city.

Ha! What bull s*$&#! The author obviously never actually took the time to visit Portland or he would have known that the last two times we voted against funding light rail (MAX) line extensions. The only people to whom light rail is popular is the dim bulbs in the city council. Gentrification caused by the new light rail line helped drive lots of families out of the area.

13 posted on 03/23/2005 9:00:21 PM PST by Hexenhammer
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[vibrant??, rich, immature adults don't want kids]

And some can not procreate even IF they wanted to. These vibrant cities are also homosexual meccas... The selfish politically correct and homosexual agendas are in direct conflict with propagation and support of family life...

15 posted on 03/23/2005 9:01:13 PM PST by DBeers
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Heck, down south we're building schools all the time. Can't keep up.

Now, if you want my true opinion of the federal educational system, that's another thing, probably for another thread. Except to say a lot of the 'want' of children in this article seems only for the 'free' money.


16 posted on 03/23/2005 9:04:32 PM PST by eyespysomething (It starts off as a drum circle, next thing you know you've got a college.)
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It's been very hard to me to find any Euro-stock American women who want to have more than 0 or 1 children. Thankfully, I've found a wonderful woman from Korea who came here for school and wants to have 2 children.


17 posted on 03/23/2005 9:07:06 PM PST by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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This is a no brainer....the Pearl District as well as the downtown area are very tolerant of everything. People with children move away from places like this. It is fine while your young but once you realize that you shouldn't be tolerant and accepting of everything you move far, far away.
19 posted on 03/23/2005 9:14:35 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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San Francisco, where the median house price is now about $700,000, had the lowest percentage of people under 18 of any large city in the nation, 14.5 percent, compared with 25.7 percent nationwide, the 2000 census reported.

........DUH.........could it be because San Fransico is the CITY OF HOMO'S???? nah

20 posted on 03/23/2005 9:20:53 PM PST by SweetCaroline (I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me...Philippians 4:13)
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but horrors!!!!......they'll have to stop this nonsense about the teaching shortage won't they, if there are less kids....

oh, I forgot...now, the new mantra is "smaller class size"....for the children, of course.....

21 posted on 03/23/2005 9:26:04 PM PST by cherry
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But the real estate is becoming outrageously expensive. And then you get wealthy singles and wealthy retirees. What's missing are kids. And that feels really sterile to me

If I'm not mistaken, North San Diego & South Orange counties are expensive places to live and they have a number of families not only living there, but moving there.

22 posted on 03/23/2005 9:29:32 PM PST by Troublemaker
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I lived in a neighborhood of single family homes "close in" in Portland (not 5 miles from the Pearl District) that had tons of kids. Nice tree lined streets, sidewalks, schools nearby .... kids out outside playing all the time, very vibrant.


26 posted on 03/23/2005 9:52:10 PM PST by Lorianne
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I lived in a neighborhood of single family homes "close in" in Portland (not 5 miles from the Pearl District) that had tons of kids. Nice tree lined streets, sidewalks, schools nearby .... kids out outside playing all the time, very vibrant.


27 posted on 03/23/2005 9:52:20 PM PST by Lorianne
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Old America is dying out, just like Europe is. Godless liberalism is anti-life in every way. From taking money away from the young and fertile to finance the old's pensions.. to homosexuality, to abortion etc..

These young liberal women, how can they have children when it would hurt their career advancement and change their figures?


28 posted on 03/23/2005 9:57:17 PM PST by ran15
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"It's a real challenge trying to raise a kid in San Francisco,"

Believe me, it is a real challenge just trying to drive with my kids through San Francisco (if I must).


29 posted on 03/23/2005 10:17:57 PM PST by Gal.5:1 (note to self: speak the truth in love)
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"If you took immigrants out of the equation, the United States would be like the rest of Europe," said Phillip Longman, a senior fellow at the New America Foundation, a public policy research organization in Washington.

Ah, but you can't take immigrants out of the equation. New Americans are created nearly every day and they are a source of constant renewal for the country. I used to work near Golden Hall in downtown San Diego and always enjoyed seeing the long lines of people waiting to take their oath of citizenship.

30 posted on 03/23/2005 10:34:46 PM PST by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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