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Thomas Sowell: Killing Terri Shiavo
Townhall.com ^ | March 24, 2005 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 03/24/2005 3:26:10 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past

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March 24, 2005

People who say that the government has no business interfering in a private decision like removing Terri Schiavo's feeding tube somehow have no problem with a squad of policemen preventing her parents (or anyone else) from giving their daughter food or water.

 Do those who want to keep the government out of private decisions think that the police are not the government? Do they think that the judges who authorized this are not the government?

 Sadly, this is not the only Alice-in-Wonderland confusion of words and deeds in this tragic case.

 We are being told that Terri Schiavo is being "allowed" to "die a natural death." Such an argument might make some sense if this were a terminally ill person. But Terri Schiavo is not dying from anything other than a lack of food and water, from which any of the rest of us would die.

 She is not dying a natural death. She is being killed.

 What is being kept alive artificially is the liberal media version of events. One side of this story is being repeated endlessly, as if it were gospel, but anyone saying something different -- including doctors and nurses who have actually seen or taken care of Terri Schiavo -- is unlikely to be reported.

 The nature of death by starvation and dehydration is also being depicted as "gentle" in the words of the New York Times -- the same New York Times which in 2002 reported starving people in India dying "clutching pained stomachs."

 This "gentle" death is the story line in the liberal media but a priest who has actually seen Terri Schiavo tells a wholly different story of her visibly deteriorating condition. If this is such an easy death, why not videotape it and show those of us who are less enlightened how mistaken we are? Instead, there is a ban on anyone's photographing Terri as she dies.

 Despite the oft-repeated claim that Terri Schiavo is being "allowed" to die, supposedly in accordance with her own wishes, the only person who says that these were her wishes is the one person who wants her dead and who personally stands to benefit from her death -- her husband, Michael Schiavo.

 When Sean Hannity said this on the Fox News channel's "Hannity & Colmes" program, he was assured by a lawyer who was defending the removal of the feeding tube that Michael Schiavo was not the only one to hear Terri say this. But, when Hannity demanded to know the name of just one other person, the lawyer followed an old lawyer's maxim: "When your case is weak, shout louder!" He shouted and waxed indignant -- but did not produce the name of any other person.

 This case is one where many people speak with certainty about very uncertain things -- and the certainties of one side contradict the certainties of the other.

 Many seem certain that Terri Schiavo is vegetative, does not understand what is going on around her and cannot respond. But Carla Sauer Iyer, a nurse who attended Mrs. Schiavo for more than a year, has contradicted all of this. Moreover, she has painted a very different picture of Michael Schiavo than the one he presents to the courts and to the media.

 But you are not likely to find her eyewitness account of events in the mainstream media.

 According to this nurse, Michael Schiavo complained that his wife wasn't dying fast enough -- only the word he used was not wife or woman but a word that cannot be repeated in a family newspaper.

 The nurse's sworn statement, under penalty of perjury, is that she reported to the police that she had found Terri in both medical and emotional distress after a closed door visit by her husband -- and that she also found a vial of insulin, as well as needle marks on Terri, after Michael Schiavo's visit.

 The same mainstream media that will scour the country to find individuals to quote in support of killing Terri Schiavo will not lift a finger to investigate the chilling charges this nurse filed with the police years ago. It might disturb the picture they are trying to paint.

 Terri Schiavo is being killed because she is inconvenient to her husband and because she is inconvenient to those who do not want the idea of the sanctity of life to be strengthened and become an impediment to abortion. Nor do they want the supremacy of judges to be challenged, when judges are the liberals' last refuge.

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1 posted on 03/24/2005 3:26:11 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

All true.


2 posted on 03/24/2005 3:29:24 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
no problem with a squad of policemen preventing her parents (or anyone else) from giving their daughter food or water.

Exactly. The "big government" types are the ones who defend a judiciary who won't let a mother feed her own daughter.

Hello, Jeb? Where are you? Get off your preppy butt and be a man, Jeb!
3 posted on 03/24/2005 3:30:49 PM PST by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Congress messed up royally putting the case into the hands of the federal courts. Instead, Congress, exercising its Constitutionally granted authority to enforce the 14th Amendment, should have passed a law ordering the feeding tube inserted.

It's about time Congress took back some of its powers that have been usurped by the jucidiary. Unfortunately, it lacks the courage. How sad.

4 posted on 03/24/2005 3:33:14 PM PST by curiosity
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

If I were Terri's father it would be time to risk arrest and rescue my daughter.


5 posted on 03/24/2005 3:33:32 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: farmer18th

Yeah, I thought that was an excellent point. Leaving people free to act would save Terri because her parents would be free to provide care. The government is saying that they cannot do that. It is even arresting children who attempt to give her water. The husband doesn't have to provide care, but others should be free to do so. At least if no government interference is your argument then that should be the case.


6 posted on 03/24/2005 3:34:44 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
It is even arresting children who attempt to give her water.

That little kid, cuffed by the Florida cops, had more guts than the entire Bush family combined.
7 posted on 03/24/2005 3:37:46 PM PST by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

If anyone needs to convince family or friends that Terri is being murdered, this is the article to send them.


8 posted on 03/24/2005 3:38:56 PM PST by Califelephant (What's freedom worth?)
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To: farmer18th

Oh, I am not going to be too hard on the Bush family. They have tried very hard to help. It is easy to say what they should have done in hindsight, but I do think they have tried and we should appreciate them for that.


9 posted on 03/24/2005 3:40:19 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

It's too bad Terri Schiavo was not a mass murderer earlier in her life. If that were the case, every liberal organization in the country would be screaming that the state is killing her as an unofficial execution. Terri's problem is that she is innocent, defenseless, and can't speak for herself. Liberals have no interest whatsoever in protecting such people.


10 posted on 03/24/2005 3:40:52 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: Califelephant

Sowell is great at logic. He can breakdown any phony argument.


11 posted on 03/24/2005 3:41:18 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I love Dr. Sowell bump


12 posted on 03/24/2005 3:44:42 PM PST by Unknown Freeper
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To: GLDNGUN
Terri's problem is that she is innocent, defenseless, and can't speak for herself. Liberals have no interest whatsoever in protecting such people.

Just like abortion, the Liberals are cowards.

13 posted on 03/24/2005 3:46:19 PM PST by just me
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To: Fitzcarraldo
If I were Terri's father it would be time to risk arrest and rescue my daughter.

If I were Terry's father it would be time to risk arrest for shooting the son of a bitch who is trying to kill my daughter.

Speaking as a father with two daughters...

14 posted on 03/24/2005 3:46:39 PM PST by jscd3
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Thomas Sowell is not a religious conservative, and he is not a Republican partisan. He is America's greatest living intellectual. Oh, if only we could transplant Dr. Sowell's clarity of thought into (for example) Jeb Bush ...


15 posted on 03/24/2005 3:47:29 PM PST by Tax-chick ("I have been half in love with easeful Death ... Now more than ever seems it rich to die.")
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
"People who say that the government has no business interfering in a private decision like removing Terri Schiavo's feeding tube somehow have no problem with a squad of policemen preventing her parents (or anyone else) from giving their daughter food or water."

Amen my brother.

16 posted on 03/24/2005 3:48:01 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jscd3

I'm glad someone else said it first.


17 posted on 03/24/2005 3:50:06 PM PST by absalom01
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Risk arrest? How about risk death? You have to kill me before you can kill my daughter.


18 posted on 03/24/2005 3:50:40 PM PST by Critter (America, home of the whipped.)
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To: jscd3
If I were Terry's father it would be time to risk arrest for shooting the son of a bitch who is trying to kill my daughter. Speaking as a father with two daughters...

I also have two daughters...dealing with MS would be number two on the list, depending on how long I was in detention for trespassing and kidnapping.

19 posted on 03/24/2005 3:50:53 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Critter

maybe the police have orders not to shoot during a rescue attempt, similar to the "no chase" laws in LA the police have to follow for aprehending illegal aliens and car thieves.


20 posted on 03/24/2005 3:52:25 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: tomahawk

Plus the same morons who say the government should stay out of it would scream bloody murder if any of their favorite programs or handouts were cut.

It's hard not to feel angry and outraged over all this. I have had many not-too-Christian thoughts about the people who are perpetrating this outrage. I will go out to Holy Thursday mass soon but I will be thinking why is the Lord allowing this to happen.


21 posted on 03/24/2005 3:54:22 PM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: farmer18th
"Hello, Jeb? Where are you? Get off your preppy butt and be a man, Jeb!"

If Jeb Bush fails to act on this it will probably be the end of his political career.

22 posted on 03/24/2005 3:54:46 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Terri Schiavo is being killed because she is inconvenient to her husband and because she is inconvenient to those who do not want the idea of the sanctity of life to be strengthened and become an impediment to abortion. Nor do they want the supremacy of judges to be challenged, when judges are the liberals' last refuge.

Bingo on both counts.
PRO-ABORTION = KILL TERRI
Lots of FREEPERS falling for the last count too.

23 posted on 03/24/2005 3:58:11 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: TheDon
Lots of FREEPERS falling for the last count too.

Oh yeah, the ultra states "rightists" will be calling Thomas a statist in no time.

24 posted on 03/24/2005 3:59:58 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: farmer18th
No, I wouldnt necessarily say that child had guts..his parents drove him to the hospice. Who's to say he actually made the decision on his own. Adults use children as pawns all of the time. If he actually stood up for what he believes I give him all of the credit in the world, but I have a feeling the family felt passionate and got wrapped up in the media hype. I wish the best for Terri and her family (not her husband) and those who honestly have her best interest at heart.
25 posted on 03/24/2005 4:02:07 PM PST by duck duck goose
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To: Tax-chick

Thomas Sowell is not a religious conservative, and he is not a Republican partisan.



Interestingly, that describes me as well, and I happen to be a big fan of Sowell, and an ardent defender of Terri's right to live.


26 posted on 03/24/2005 4:03:05 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Tax-chick
I think he is awesome. While he may not be a typical religious conservative, I would guess he is a Christian, and I know he is conservative with a libertarian bent. He is a student of history and knows that power can corrupt even the best of intentions. But he is definitely not a straight Libertarian either.

Nevertheless, you are 100% correct to define him as a great intellectual.

28 posted on 03/24/2005 4:03:32 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Critter
Risk arrest? How about risk death? You have to kill me before you can kill my daughter.

You're wrong. They can easily handle you without killing you.

Unless you came in shooting.
29 posted on 03/24/2005 4:04:01 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Sowell bump!!!

I have yet to see one conservative pundit I admire side with Greer and the sicko husband on this issue.


30 posted on 03/24/2005 4:04:05 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

That's what I don't understand. If it were my daughter, they would have to arrest me before I would let her lay there and die of dehydration. Why doesn't her family (and I'm sure many of the supporters out in front of the hospice would gladly assist) just go in and remove her by force and take her to a hospital. If they are arrested, there would be such an outcry from people that something would have to be done. Seems like her family just wants everyone else to stick their necks out and do something.


31 posted on 03/24/2005 4:04:15 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Beelzebubba

Then you're in good company, FRiend :-).


32 posted on 03/24/2005 4:04:58 PM PST by Tax-chick ("I have been half in love with easeful Death ... Now more than ever seems it rich to die.")
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
...a squad of policemen preventing her parents (or anyone else) from giving their daughter food or water

" Just following orders. Where have we hears that "excuse" before?

33 posted on 03/24/2005 4:05:54 PM PST by CDB
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

bump


34 posted on 03/24/2005 4:06:04 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: curiosity
It's about time Congress took back some of its powers that have been usurped by the judiciary.

That would put too many lawyers out of business, including the ACLU. As well, the entire ruling rung on the ladder of the Democrat Party is all lawyers. This stuff is all too good for billable hours. It's either this or we'll have to suffer attorney's offering to wash our windshields at stoplights.

35 posted on 03/24/2005 4:06:13 PM PST by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Thomas Sowell ping


36 posted on 03/24/2005 4:06:26 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: mlc9852
That's what I don't understand. If it were my daughter, they would have to arrest me before I would let her lay there and die of dehydration. Why doesn't her family (and I'm sure many of the supporters out in front of the hospice would gladly assist) just go in and remove her by force and take her to a hospital. If they are arrested, there would be such an outcry from people that something would have to be done. Seems like her family just wants everyone else to stick their necks out and do something.

Obviously they are counseled away from this, perhaps to not taint the remaining legal processes. Perhaps Jeb will let them know when it's time to do this via a back channel should all appeals fail and in some way assist.

37 posted on 03/24/2005 4:07:31 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: farmer18th

You are wasting time criticizing the Bush family on this.

The evil ones are Judge Greer, the whole judicial system, the Fla legislator that cannot protect its citizens from hearsay evidence being used to kill.

Now explain exactly why you want to make the culprits the Bush family?


38 posted on 03/24/2005 4:07:41 PM PST by ClancyJ (Sometimes we're a think tank, and sometimes we're just a tank ! - SlowBoat 407)
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To: Critter
Risk arrest? How about risk death? You have to kill me before you can kill my daughter.

Yeah, me too.

Time to give Jeb a hint in pictures on what to do:

M-60 tanks on the Autobahn
39 posted on 03/24/2005 4:08:49 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I hope you enjoyed your dinner, Terri Schiavo can't. B-()
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To: xzins; jude24; winstonchurchill
We are being told that Terri Schiavo is being "allowed" to "die a natural death." Such an argument might make some sense if this were a terminally ill person. But Terri Schiavo is not dying from anything other than a lack of food and water, from which any of the rest of us would die.
She is not dying a natural death. She is being killed.

Ping!

40 posted on 03/24/2005 4:08:56 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: absalom01

I can't believe this is happening in America. The thought of taking up arms has occurred to me as well. "Do not stand idly by your brothers blood" is a biblical command from the Old Testament. I'll have to find the exact citation, but we're standing idly by, while someone is being killed. This is an abomination. My God have mercy on this country.


41 posted on 03/24/2005 4:09:38 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: mlc9852

The "human wave" approach to rescue Terri would be my choice, would result in minimal bloodshed, assuming the police have orders not to shoot unarmed civilians.


42 posted on 03/24/2005 4:09:50 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: CDB
" Just following orders. Where have we hears that "excuse" before?

Nuremburg Trials, 1946.
43 posted on 03/24/2005 4:10:04 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I hope you enjoyed your dinner, Terri Schiavo can't. B-()
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Bless you Thomas Sowell. Too bad you're not Governor of Florida.


44 posted on 03/24/2005 4:10:57 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Fitzcarraldo
The "human wave" approach to rescue Terri would be my choice, would result in minimal bloodshed, assuming the police have orders not to shoot unarmed civilians.

That seems to be the best approach.
45 posted on 03/24/2005 4:11:00 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I hope you enjoyed your dinner, Terri Schiavo can't. B-()
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Thomas Sowell transcends labels. His writings make it clear that he doesn't support either a Democrat or Republican agenda, because he thinks neither party is fully rational. To the extent that he agrees with Christian conservatives, it's because of his independent analysis of their positions; he reaches the same conclusions by different means.

Dr. Sowell is a great mind. When I'm ambivalent about an issue, I check my opinions against his. If I disagree because of a faith position, then I'll "agree to disagree," but if it's a matter of reasoning, I'll defer to Sowell.


46 posted on 03/24/2005 4:12:06 PM PST by Tax-chick ("I have been half in love with easeful Death ... Now more than ever seems it rich to die.")
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To: farmer18th
Hello, Jeb? Where are you? Get off your preppy butt and be a man, Jeb!

Be specific and tell us just what you would have JEB do should he get off his preppy butt.

47 posted on 03/24/2005 4:12:28 PM PST by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: Nowhere Man
The "human wave" approach

It would have to be a large number of people ready to block roads and vehicles from entering and leaving. A real danger would be for some trooper to see them loosing control of the situation and hurting Terri.

48 posted on 03/24/2005 4:12:51 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: CDB
Yes. We have heard it before. And this too:The nature of death by starvation and dehydration is also being depicted as "gentle" in the words of the New York Times.

Remember how humanely the Nazis took care of the "Jewish problem." Why, the ovens made their death painless! Death by painless gas chamber.

49 posted on 03/24/2005 4:14:59 PM PST by cinnathepoet (Directly, I am going to Caesar's funeral)
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To: yooper

Please. That's silly.


50 posted on 03/24/2005 4:15:39 PM PST by juggernaut
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