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Felos: Starving Terri looks "beautiful"
Newsmax ^ | 3-27-05 | Felos/Newsmax

Posted on 03/27/2005 9:52:24 AM PST by churchillbuff

Edited on 03/27/2005 9:59:36 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

After going more than eight days without food and water, starving Terri Schiavo looks "beautiful," the attorney for her husband, who appears to have won the battle to force her death, told reporters on Saturday.

"She looked beautiful," attorney George Felos said, emerging from a visit to her room. He claimed that Terri was "resting comfortably."

"In all the years I've seen Mrs. Schiavo, I have never seen such a look of peace and beauty upon her," he insisted. Felos's comments were sharply at odds with accounts from her family and their lawyers, who say her eyes are sunken, her skin is flaking and that she's bleeding from the eyes and mouth.

"It's like someone who is coming out of a bunker in Auschwitz," Terri's sister, Suzanne Vitadamo, told reporters Saturday.

"This is heinous what's happening, absolutely heinous - this is absolutely barbaric," her brother Bobby Schindler complained. "If she is in fact dying so peacefully and easily, why not allow a camera in there to videotape it?" he said.

Further belying Mr. Felos' claims that Terri is "resting comfortably," lawyers for her family say nurses have begun to administer morphine to ease the intense pain.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Florida
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To: 54skylark

hmm..gee...it seems all too clear now........


61 posted on 03/27/2005 10:10:01 AM PST by Smarti Pants (~This American Patriot will never forget !!!~)
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To: Jenya
Mary Schiavo was forced to have her daughter aborted by a left wing pro-death judge for being "defective." Why didn't Mary have the "right to choose?"
They dictated the abortion, because they saw her daughter as a useless eater.
The money used for her care could be redistributed to important issues like homosexual tolerance training and high school fisting classes, or the defense of a terrorist mass murder. They have priorities, and they're in the Democrats best interest.
62 posted on 03/27/2005 10:10:06 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: juzcuz

63 posted on 03/27/2005 10:11:10 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: MikeinIraq; Liberal_Lies
Elected? Check out HOW!

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1371099/posts

Circuit Judge George Greer biography .

64 posted on 03/27/2005 10:12:11 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Main Entry: nec·ro·phil·ia
Pronunciation: "ne-kr&-'fi-lE-&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
: obsession with and usually erotic interest in or stimulation by corpses
- nec·ro·phil·i·ac /-'fi-lE-"ak/ adjective or noun
- nec·ro·phil·ic /-'fi-lik/ adjective


65 posted on 03/27/2005 10:13:01 AM PST by zippie
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To: HungarianGypsy
We have a roleplaying game called Neverwinter Nights. There are extra modules one can play. In one of the modules are vampires. The vampires say how watching someone die is beautiful. This statement reminds me of that. I keep wondering if Felos thinks death is so beautiful, will he still think it so when it's his time or will he fight to live?

First off, Felos is a fartknocker, he is just a part of the band of orcs we have for judges that are ghouls bent on killin Terri and others like her. I had a very similar group of enemies in a D&D game a long time ago where I had the PC's (Player Characters) take on "The Church of Satanic Evil."

As you probably guessed, I'm a role playing game junky too although now I like more modern day type of games like "Twilight: 2000" and "The Morrow Project." Both games are post nuclear war in nature where Twilight takes place around 2000-2005 with a NATO/Warsaw Pact World War III still going on. The war started in 1996. The Morrow Project is where people are frozen to wake up after the devistation in the idea to rebuild America. In one Play By E-Mail game, my character, the team's head mechanic is on a recovery mission and we might have run into our enemy, The Krell, who are a bunch of Satan-like cannibals. We defeated them once before but they are regrouping again for a second try. A bit OT, but I always like to chime when when I see another RPGer post.
66 posted on 03/27/2005 10:13:29 AM PST by Nowhere Man (I hope you enjoyed your dinner, Terri Schiavo can't. B-()
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To: chimera
No, no, no!

The democrat media and Felos tell us ovber and over Terri is "euphoric," "beautiful," "at peace," "suffering absolutely no pain," etc. etc.

Where do I sign up for this heaven on earth execution?

67 posted on 03/27/2005 10:13:59 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: churchillbuff

Why is this man not wearing an orange jump suit?


68 posted on 03/27/2005 10:14:29 AM PST by Ben Chad
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To: beyond the sea

And it isn't even a fart in a hurricane when you compare it to Hillary or watergate or any other political scandal....

so what? He was still ELECTED by the people in Pinellas....it isn't a Clinton thing, that is, unless you are saying that there was VOTER FRAUD IN FLORIDA. You wouldnt be saying that now would you? hhmmmmm???


69 posted on 03/27/2005 10:14:37 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Terri is going to die and then the mob is going to blame both Bush brothers. Realism is dead on FR)
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To: MisterRepublican
Apparently that "euphoric state" the NYT and everybody was talking about was not caused by starvation, but by the morphine they give you for the pain that doesn't exist because you can't feel anything when your PVS.

Good point. If she's PVS and numb,i,e, so bad everything is reflex and she can't feel anything at all, why are they offering morphine for her "peaceful, euphoric" agony?

70 posted on 03/27/2005 10:16:25 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: Honestfreedom

Felos is one sick puppy.

He's figured out how to be a serial killer, get paid for it and have no prosecution.

Any body that enjoys watching the dying of any other human is disturbed.


71 posted on 03/27/2005 10:18:00 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Never let your life be determined by the prejudice of a Physician.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Actually, even as she is being murdered, the soul of the innocent martyr Terri IS beautiful, shining magnificently in the hellish death pit surrounded by evil fiends like Felos, Schiavo, and their agents.


72 posted on 03/27/2005 10:18:30 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: churchillbuff

Yeah, right.

73 posted on 03/27/2005 10:18:56 AM PST by NordP (Keeping America Great - Rice/Hughes in 2008 ! -- What do you mean, she won't run?)
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To: MikeinIraq
He was still ELECTED by the people in Pinellas....it isn't a Clinton thing, that is, unless you are saying that there was VOTER FRAUD IN FLORIDA.

I did not mention the Clintons. You missed the point. Forget about it.

74 posted on 03/27/2005 10:19:05 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Calvinist_and_Hobbs

Doubt if the RNC will claim this piece of debris (Greer). As a lifelong Republican, I want to barf at the thought of this POS in the party. His church dumped his sorry butt, now the RNC can do likewise.


75 posted on 03/27/2005 10:20:05 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: zippie

I've never seen a person wax about the dying process as obscessively as Felos sounds that didn't have an erotic interest in it...he would put some of the death obsessed necrophiliac serial killers to shame over his love of death...


76 posted on 03/27/2005 10:20:16 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: HungarianGypsy
The vampires say how watching someone die is beautiful.

I think Anne Rice captured these sentiments in her Vampire series of books as well.

77 posted on 03/27/2005 10:20:23 AM PST by brewcrew
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To: churchillbuff

I want to know if there is any possible way there could be a thorough investigation of all this, hopefully a forced autopsy too........her husband and Felos are going to get away with murder if there isn't.


78 posted on 03/27/2005 10:21:25 AM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: Enterprise
And again, who is in authority who will convene a Nuremberg trial to put Greer, Felos, and Schiavo on trial for "crimes against humanity?"

"America speaks to us about human rights, but witness what they do to their own people! Those Vipers! Those hypocrites! "

79 posted on 03/27/2005 10:22:18 AM PST by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: concerned about politics


Patient Care Notesxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Hospice
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxOf The Florida Suncoast

Date

4/19/01xxxxxxxxxxxxxClinical Pharmacy
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxRe: Medication review and symptom management


Pt. is a 37 yo woman in a vegetative state with no apparent signs of distress. Enteral tube-feeding to be discontinued on 4/20/01.

Current Medications:

1. antacid suspension 1-2 tablespoons prn [prn = "as needed"]

2. Naproxen suspension 375 mg Q8* prn menstrual cramps. [Q8* prn = "every 8 hours as needed". Naproxen is a pain-relieving and anti-inflamatory drug. ]

3. Vitamin liquid daily.

Upon discontinuation of enteral feeding the following signs/symptoms may or may not occur. The following is a brief list of symptoms for which to monitor and recommended interventions.

1. d/c ["discontinue"] antacid. d/c Naproxen suspension.

2. d/c Vitamin liquid

3. Monitor symptoms of pain/discomfort. If noted, medicate with Naproxen rectal suppository 375 mg Q8* prn.

Wait a minute! George Felos, Michael Schiavo, and all the other advocates of feeding-tube removal have been saying repeatedly that dying by denial of nutrition & hydration is "peaceful" and "painless". They've both said so in interviews and press conferences, such as on Larry King Live. So if dying by denial of nutrition and hydration is, as Michael said, "painless and probably the most natural way to die", then why is medication needed for pain and discomfort?

4. Signs of compromised skin integrity — continue vigilant skin care, provide moistener to lips, consult wound-care specialist if needed.

As the body dehydrates, the skin loses its tone and dries out. Left untreated, this will lead to cracking and bleeding. The lips are even more sensitive in this respect. "Vigilant skin care" is the liberal use of lotions and moisteners to mask these symptoms. The lips must be continually swabbed with special moisteners, and have lip balm applied to them. In the last stages, though, in spite of such measures, skin breakdown often occurs. Because of the body's debilitated state, normal healing mechanisms do not function. Hence the need to consult wound-care specialists to deal with ulcers and open sores.

5. Signs of dehydration
(A) dry lips, mouth. Swab saliva substitute inside mouth prn. (see next page)

After a few days without water, the body stops producing saliva, necessitating the use of a "saliva substitute" to avoid ulceration in the mouth, and a characteristic foul odor on the patient's breath. The cessation of salivation also leads to other complications which appear in the "pulmonary" section.



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Patient Care Notesxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Hospice
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxOf The Florida Suncoast

Date

4/19/01xxxxxxxxxClinical Pharmacy Note — continued

xxxxxxxxxxxxxSigns of dehydration — continued

(B) decreased urinary output - no change in care plan.

While there may be "no change in care plan", one of the effects of dehydration is incontinence. The patient's diapers or "chux" pads will need to be changed more frequently, until such output ceases entirely.

6. Pulmonary
(A) Inability to clear secretions - reposition and swab mouth, consider scopolamine patch behind ear every 3 days.

Dehydration causes the natural mucus secretions of the mouth, nose, and throat to thicken, as the body struggles to protect these delicate membranes. The lack of saliva exacerbates this problem, preventing the normal swallowing of these secretions. These thick deposits can interfere with breathing. The use of the scopolamine patch promotes drying of these secretions, which prevents their build-up, but hastens the breakdown of the tissues.

(B) dyspnea ["difficulty in breathing"] — nebulize low dose 2-5 mg morphine sulfate Q4* prn.

In the last stages of dehydration/starvation, the patient's breathing will become difficult and labored. He or she may even begin gasping for breath, as even the lungs' ability to effect transfer of gases is compromised. Morphine nebulized into a fine spray relaxes bronchial passages and relieves these symptoms. However, because of the resultant decrease in respiratory efficiency, this may hasten death.

7. Multifocal myoclonus or terminal agitation (sometimes caused by electrolyte imbalance). Consider diazepam rectal administration 5-10 mg. May repeat in 4 hours if not resolved then daily - twice daily as needed.

Myoclonus is twitching or spasm of the muscles. Multifocal means "occurring in many different parts of the body". This is usually the result of imbalance in electrolytes, the chemicals, such as salt, potassium, and calcium, which make your bodies internal electrical "batteries" work. Nerve impulses and muscle contractions are governed by electro-chemical reactions utilizing these chemicals. Dehydration causes these chemicals to be out of balance, interfering with normal nerve and muscle function. This can result in nerves and muscles "firing off" uncontrollably, causing spasm. The patient will writhe and become extremely agitated. If you have ever had muscle cramps resulting from strenuous exercise (especially when you have sweat profusely), you have some idea what this feels like. Imagine having this happen all over your body, repeatedly. Diazepam (more commonly known as Valium) is a muscle relaxant

8. Grand Mal seizure, which is highly unlikely given current conditions and lack of contributing factors (meds). Recommend diazepam 15 mg rectally as indicated in seizure management orders.

In the final stages of starvation and dehydration, the same electrolyte imbalances which can cause muscle spasm can also lead to uncontrolled firing of neurons in the brain, according to a similar mechanism. This results in seizures.

Thank you for the opportunity to collaborate regarding this patient's care.

I would observe, in conclusion, that most of the "treatments" described in this Exit Protocol are in fact not directed at easing the patient's true condition, but in masking the symptoms of dying by starvation and dehydration. These treatments are designed to create the appearance of a peaceful "slipping away", when nothing of the sort is happening. The medications hide the fact that the patient undergoes a lengthy and painful deterioration, in which his/her body wastes away cruelly. Remember this the next time you hear or read someone say that Terri should be "allowed" to die.



80 posted on 03/27/2005 10:22:22 AM PST by zippie
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