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Cost Concerns Plague Army's High-Tech Plan
NY Times ^ | March 28, 2005 | TIM WEINER

Posted on 03/27/2005 6:28:44 PM PST by neverdem

The Army's plan to transform itself into a futuristic high-technology force has become so expensive that some of the military's strongest supporters in Congress are questioning the program's costs and complexity.

Army officials said Saturday that the first phase of the program, called Future Combat Systems, could run to $145 billion. Paul Boyce, an Army spokesman, said the "technological bridge to the future" would equip 15 brigades of roughly 3,000 soldiers, or about one-third of the force the Army plans to field, over a 20-year span.

That price tag, larger than past estimates publicly disclosed by the Army, does not include a projected $25 billion for the communications network needed to connect the future forces. Nor does it fully account for Army plans to provide Future Combat weapons and technologies to forces beyond those first 15 brigades.

Now some of the military's advocates in Congress are asking how to pay the bill.

"We're dealing today with a train wreck," Representative Curt Weldon, Republican of Pennsylvania and vice chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, said at a March 16 Congressional hearing on the cost and complexity of Future Combat Systems.

"We're left with impossible decisions," said Mr. Weldon, a strong supporter of Pentagon spending. One of those choices, he warned, might cut back Future Combat.

The Army sees Future Combat, the most expensive weapons program it has ever undertaken, as a seamless web of 18 different sets of networked weapons and military robots. The program is at the heart of Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld's campaign to transform the Army into a faster, lighter force in which stripped-down tanks could be put on a transport plane and flown into battle, and information systems could protect soldiers of the future as heavy armor has protected them in the past.

Army officials say the task is a technological challenge as complicated as putting an astronaut on the moon. They call Future Combat weapons, which may take more than a decade to field, crucial for a global fight against terror.

But the bridge to the future remains a blueprint. Army officials issued a stop-work order in January for the network that would link Future Combat weapons, citing its failure to progress. They said this month that they did not know if they could build a tank light enough to fly.

The Army is asking Congress to approve Future Combat while it is fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan whose costs, according to the Congressional Research Service, now exceed $275 billion. Future Combat is one of the biggest items in the Pentagon's plans to build more than 70 major weapons systems at a cost of more than $1.3 trillion.

The Army has canceled two major weapons programs, the Crusader artillery system and the Comanache helicopter, "to protect funding for the Future Combat System," said Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and a member of the Armed Services Committee. "That is why we have to get the F.C.S. program right."

David M. Walker, the comptroller general of the United States, said in an interview that the Pentagon's future arsenal was unaffordable and Congress needed "to make some choices now."

"There is a substantial gap between what the Pentagon is seeking in weapons systems and what we will be able to afford and sustain," said Mr. Walker, who oversees the Government Accountability Office, the budget watchdog of Congress. "We are not going to be able to afford all of this."

He added, "Every dollar we spend on a want today is a dollar we won't be able to spend on a need tomorrow."

Paul L. Francis, the acquisition and sourcing management director for the accountability office, told Congress that the Army was building Future Combat Systems without the data it needed to guide it. "If everything goes as planned, the program will attain the level of knowledge in 2008 that it should have had before it started in 2003," Mr. Francis said in written testimony. "But things are not going as planned."

He warned that Future Combat Systems, in its early stages of research and development, was showing signs typical of multibillion-dollar weapons programs that cost far more than expected and deliver fewer weapons than promised. Future Combat is a network of 53 crucial technologies, he said, and 52 are unproven.

Brig. Gen. Charles A. Cartwright, deputy director for the Army research and development command, said in an interview that Future Combat was a work in progress, evolving in an upward spiral from the drawing board to the assembly line.

"We are working through the affordability," General Cartwright said. He acknowledged that the Army's cost estimates could spiral upward as well.

The Army's publicly disclosed cost estimates for Future Combat stood at $92 billion last month. That excluded research and development, which the G.A.O. says will run to $30 billion. Mr. Boyce, the Army spokesman, said on Saturday that Future Combat costs were estimated at $25 billion for research and development and from $6.1 billion to $8 billion for each of 15 future brigades, or as high as $145 billion.

The Army wants Future Combat to be a smaller, faster force than the one now fighting in Iraq. Tanks, mobile cannons and personnel carriers would be made so light that they could be flown to a war zone. But first they must be stripped of heavy armor. In place of armor, American soldiers in combat would be protected by information systems, so they could see and kill the enemy before being seen and killed, Army officials say.

Future Combat soldiers, weapons and robots are to be linked by a $25 billion web, Joint Tactical Radio Systems, known as JTRS (pronounced 'jitters"). The network would transmit the battlefield information intended to protect soldiers. It is not included in the Future Combat budget.

If JTRS does not work, Future Combat will fail, General Cartwright said. The Army halted production on the first set of JTRS radios in January, saying they were not progressing as planned.

"The principle of replacing mass with information is threatened," Mr. Francis said in an interview. "Now you'd have light vehicles fighting the same way as the current force, without the protection. This is one reason why we don't know yet if Future Combat Systems will work."

Another factor is the weight of the new weapons. Future Combat's tanks and mobile cannons, all built on similar frames, were supposed to weigh no more than 19 tons each. At that weight, they could be flown to a war zone in a few days, rather than taking weeks or months to deploy.

They will weigh "less than 50 tons, perhaps less than 30 tons," Claude M. Bolton Jr., the Army's acquisition executive, told Congress at the March 16 hearing. "Will it be 20 tons or 19? I don't know the answer to that."

That doubt may damage a conceptual underpinning for Future Combat: the ability to deploy armed forces quickly in a crisis. Unless the weapons are as light as advertised, they will have to arrive in a theater of war by ship.

Boeing, the aircraft maker and military contractor, is designing Future Combat Systems in the role of lead systems integrator, acting as architect and general contractor. It is also responsible for the JTRS radios.

Boeing is being paid $21 billion through 2014 for its work on Future Combat Systems. "It's certainly a key element of our defense business," said Dennis Muilenburg, the vice president and general manager for Future Combat Systems at Boeing. The Army's Future Combat contract with Boeing, which has suffered several Pentagon contracting scandals in the last few years, exempts the company from financial disclosures demanded under the federal Truth in Negotiations Act.

The challenge for the Army and Boeing is to build "an entirely new Army, reconfigured to perform the global policing mission," said Gordon Adams, a former director for national security spending at the Office of Management and Budget, "and that is enormously expensive."

Mr. Rumsfeld told the House Defense Appropriations subcommittee last month about the challenge of remaking an Army in the middle of a war. "Abraham Lincoln once compared reorganizing the Union Army during the Civil War to bailing out the Potomac River with a teaspoon," he said. "I hope and trust that what we are proposing to accomplish will not be that difficult."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armament; boeing; defense; militaryforces; miltech; omb

1 posted on 03/27/2005 6:28:46 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Just write another check - who cares?

It's all play money, right?


2 posted on 03/27/2005 6:30:57 PM PST by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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To: neverdem

3 posted on 03/27/2005 6:36:11 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: neverdem

Expensive high-tech gear of dubious benefit when we can't get armor for the Humvees? The Pentagon has gone nuts.


4 posted on 03/27/2005 6:37:20 PM PST by henderson field
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To: neverdem

bump for later. thanks for the post.


5 posted on 03/27/2005 6:51:01 PM PST by the crow (I'm from the government. I'm here to help.)
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To: neverdem
The NY Times prints another story of bad news for the Army. **yawn**
6 posted on 03/27/2005 6:54:46 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: henderson field
.......how much $$$$$ does an enemy suicide bomber cost?

.......a billion of them?

.......A Totally Projected 'Mass' Psychological Warfare ...'Systems'....called for......

.......'LSD'...'Communications Ability'....was child's play.......

.......real scary 'stuff' needed and forthcoming.....for sure....

.....IMO

:-(

7 posted on 03/27/2005 7:00:51 PM PST by maestro
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To: neverdem

It's much too early to know if this is a problem or not, although the NY Times is determined to play up that angle.


8 posted on 03/27/2005 7:15:08 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem

Ability to afford high cost is America's strength. We can play that game, other countries can't. We have to play to our strengths.


9 posted on 03/27/2005 7:26:21 PM PST by etcetera (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom, unless he be vigilant in its preservation.)
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To: neverdem

Whtaver the cost, our military needs to stay on top. I do not care if it means raising taxes. With China trying to challenge us we must stay prepared. Actually we can afford it if funding to the UN was cut off as well as funding to the NEA and EPA!


10 posted on 03/27/2005 7:32:45 PM PST by Paul_Denton (The UN is UN-American! Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: neverdem

Is rael is also engaging into hi-tech weapons these days, but probably weapons like these will be very expensive which will be against affordibility and force the military into a deadly loop of limited numbers for production resulting into more cost of production and again costing more to be less produced. This is also likely the problem with other countries like Japan. Hi-tech weapons like OICW and Land Warrior systems is estimated thousands of dollars each. With a nightmare of the cost for these hi-tech weapons, the military will have to sacrifice for low tech solutions. F/A-22 is probably the best fighter that no other fighter can beat. However, the worst enemy of F/A-22 is not other fighters but the budget and hostile GAO. F/A-22 was defeated by the budget that less of them had to be produced. That will also be the same for FCS weapons.


11 posted on 03/27/2005 7:42:56 PM PST by Wiz
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To: lodwick
"Just write another check - who cares?

It's all play money, right?
"

...wouldn't want to cut any of those anti-family social engineering (feminazi) programs hidden under so many names that, combined, cost us many billions, would we?

Defense is one of our proper government functions. Psychological and economic warfare against families is not.

Cut DHHS and all of the other funding hidden in so many other programs. Abolish the Department of Education. That will release the needed funding for our defense.
12 posted on 03/27/2005 7:43:18 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: neverdem

Yes...more funding for defense. There's a huge Axis building against us. Shut down unconstitutional social programs that break families and put that funding to better use.


13 posted on 03/27/2005 7:45:15 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: Wiz

I think you have a clear analysis of the situation. I think we are in a situation where we need strategic development of new systems to maintain our technological edge, and small fielded units for testing the technology before we go broke on a particular system. The world's battlefields are littered with 'revolutionary' junk.

Tinkering with the Army scares me personally. Trust me, when people are firing grenade launchers or artillery at you, steel is your best friend. A good integration of optics, sensors and communication equipment are extremely important, but it doesen't do you much good if some Muj can take you out with a beat up 30-year-old howitzer shell and a doorbell.

I think we need a strategic approach. We don't have any large high-tec threats at the moment. But we certainly have the potential to have them. I think we need an approach where we design, prototype and field test small units for battle readiness. The most important aspect of this approach is that you create and maintain an infrastructure that can quickly be put in place to produce and field the units in the event of a major confilct.

We don't necessarily need 600 F-22s at this moment. But in a major conflict against a country with 4th generation fighters we will need these platforms.

I don't like the idea of fielding a 19-ton (s)lightly armored vehicle with millions of $ in comms hardware that an idiot with a cell phone and land mine can turn into a burning pile of electronics.

We need to develop quickly producable and deployable high-tec platforms, but we don't necessarily need to produce and field them now. The maintenance on these proposed systems are going to make the r&d and production costs look like chump change.

We need a realistic and intelligent policy on preparing for tomorrow's diverse battlefields.


14 posted on 03/27/2005 8:25:01 PM PST by ChinaThreat
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To: ChinaThreat
.....We need a realistic and intelligent policy on preparing for tomorrow's 'diverse' battlefields.

.....and we need to eliminate those 'diverse' battlefields before they become battlefields!

....this will necessitate ongoing 'actions' 24/7.......to do it...

Welcome to the 'Brave New Trade World'.....

15 posted on 03/27/2005 9:45:10 PM PST by maestro
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