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Did the Jews kill Christ (or was Jesus a Victim of Identity Theft)?
http://www.crosstalk.org ^ | 12/2004 | Dr. Randy Weiss

Posted on 03/28/2005 5:03:23 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican

Consider the facts:

It seems to me that the folks who confuse these matters misunderstand the real character and true identity of Jesus. Actually, many people reinterpret the life and purpose of Jesus to fit their own agendas. They recreate Jesus to fit a pattern they prefer. Perhaps that is what happened in Mr. Gibson’s film.

The producers substituted bread for matzah in the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Whether intentional or not, this error moved Jesus to a place outside the flow of Judaism. It is well known that Jews were forbidden to eat leavened bread during the time of Passover. To ignore this lowest common denominator that Jesus shared with the Jews of His community is to ignore that He was a faithful member of the Jewish community. If He can be extricated from His situation in life as a Jewish man in the first century, He can be recreated and recast in anyway that anyone chooses. In essence, He could be molded to fit the need anyone wished for Jesus to fill. But Jesus does not change at our insistence; we change at His. God does not change; He is perfect. We must change because we are imperfect. This may seem like an abstract philosophical concern, but it is not. It is a fundamental truth and we must let Jesus be Jesus. If we are permitted to modify Him to suit our fancy then we become God and He becomes our servant. That is why I refuse to ignore that the Last Supper was a traditional Jewish Passover. To make it less is to rob Jesus of His heritage on this earth. Of course that is the pattern for many Christian traditions. Leonardo Da Vinci had the same problem when he was commissioned to create The Last Supper for the Convent of Dominican friars at Santa Maria delle Grazie in Milan. If one looks carefully at this most famous religious painting, the traditional Gentile dinner rolls will become evident.

Jesus was born into the line of Jewish kings. Christians believe He is King eternal. Had He been born into a non-Jewish home, He would have been discredited from inheriting this throne. The prophetic mantle would have remained unfulfilled. Had He sinned in His dietary regimen eating food not kosher for Passover, He would have been disqualified as a perfect sacrifice and the Cross would have been pointless in the Father’s plan of salvation. If we ignore the small details of the food Jesus ate at His final Pesach seder, it becomes easier to ignore other details, such as the clothing Jesus wore.

Consider what the poor woman with the issue of blood would have done if the wardrobe designer from Mr. Gibson’s film had outfitted our Savior? She touched the “hem” of His garment and was healed according to Matthew 9:20. To the uninitiated reader, it might seem that Jesus wore Levi Docker slacks and the woman grabbed the neatly turned, starched hem of His pleated trousers gently draping over His penny loafers. Of course that would be quite ludicrous to suggest because everyone knows Jesus did not wear slacks. Would dressing Jesus in slacks be anymore foolish than presuming He disobeyed the commands of Numbers 15:38 and disregarded wearing His tallith with the proper long tsithith—fringes in the corners? According to Jewish practice and the best scholarship, it is these fringes that the women touched. It was not the hem of His trousers, it was the borders (corners or wings) where the tsithith hung.1

If we can quietly allow Mr. Gibson to separate Jesus from His Jewish food and His Jewish dress, we can begin to disentangle Him from His other Jewish characteristics. That is why the subtitle of this book asks the question, Did the Jews Kill Christ or Has Someone Stolen His Identity? The Jews are not to blame for His death. I believe He lives! There is no body. The accusation of murder is a moot point in light of the Resurrection. The crime is in how Jesus is usually represented. Many groups have stolen His identity.

That is how the founder of The Great Passion Play of Eureka Springs, Arkansas, promoted Jesus. He presented images of a blond-haired, blue-eyed, WASP Savior. Jesus was the victim of identity theft. He stole the true identity of Jesus and created a fairy tale Christ invented in his vain imagination. The Bible commands us not to worship false gods, yet that is what happens when we worship an idea of God that is a fabrication. This can happen quite easily if we become distracted from worshipping the God of the Bible and begin to serve an illusion about God presented by false teachers.  

WILL THE REAL JESUS PLEASE STAND UP?

If a heretic can separate Jesus from His own people, he becomes capable of casting Jesus as a member of any people. Yasser Arafat declared that Jesus was a Palestinian. It served Arafat’s political purposes. If no one points out the lunacy of such errant claims, the alleged Palestinian Jesus serves Arafat obediently. The very thought is sacrilegious at numerous levels.

My wife and I recently visited a huge outdoor flea market. One seller had a plethora of Christian art. My favorite was the “Black Last Supper” where an African-American Jesus was surrounded by African-American disciples. Though this odd vision drifted further than Mr. Gibson’s, I was at least pleased to see there was no pork identified on the table. I did comment to my wife that the dinner rolls were a nice touch. They were attractive in the spirit of DaVinci. Embracing Jesus as one of their own apparently serves the African-American community. It is always wiser to serve Jesus as He is than to expect Him to serve us as we are.

Jesus was neither Aryan, nor a Nazi sympathizer. Yet that is how He was portrayed in the 1934 presentation of the most famous passion play of Europe. It was a crime of identity theft that permitted the Oberammergau Passion Play to insure that all of the main characters were Aryans during the Nazi era. Hitler loved it and insisted it be preserved forever to show the world the menacing story of the Jews. The show still goes on. Jesus served Hitler in that presentation, but Hitler never served Jesus.

Neo-Nazis and Christian Identity adherents declare Jesus was not Jewish. The heretical proponents of British-Israelism shift the heritage of Jesus and the promises of God from the Jewish people of Israel to the Anglo-Saxon people in Great Britain. They don’t want to be confronted by a Jewish Jesus. Of course, neither did the Catholic leaders of the Cathedral of Florence, when they commissioned Michelangelo to create the larger-than-life statue of King David (23 feet tall on pedestal). If you dare to peek, David was cast as an uncircumcised Gentile. In a truly classic faux pax, the 1988 edition of the World Book Encyclopedia described Michelangelo’s artistry as “best known for his treatment of the human body . . . but is never false or artificial. See the picture of his statue of David with the David article.”2 How could they not notice? Apparently, the Church could not tolerate a Jewish hero. In their view, it was wise to recreate David as one like themselves, instead of one like their enemies. That could have been an embarrassment.

The gay community desires to paint Jesus as a homosexual. The women’s liberation movement prefers goddesses to God and they have cast Jesus as a woman. The truth is that once Jesus is removed from the pages of the Bible, there is no anchor to hold people to truth and Jesus to His birthright.

Jesus was a poor, itinerant, Jewish rabbi teaching in the Galilee region of ancient Israel. Yet modern prosperity preachers would have us believe that Jesus was a well-to-do, name-it-and-claim-it faith preacher in an Armani robe, Gucci sandals and a Rolex sundial. If you listen to some prosperity-preaching charlatans with nice hair and big churches, you’d think God had dumped the poor people to shower all His blessings on the fat cats and major donors.

Perhaps you’ve heard that some are asking, WWJD—What would Jesus drive? Well, Jesus didn’t tool into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday driving a donkey named Mercedes.

Like a famous American general, Jesus is coming back. But the Second Coming of Jesus will bring eternity. He is Lord of peace and Lord of the judgment.

This work is intended to be taken seriously so it is inappropriate to contain too much sarcasm. Yet there is a great irony that many seem to miss. Jesus does not need us to make Him more appealing to those who reject Him. We need Jesus to make us more appealing to those who reject Him because of us. Jesus is sufficiently winsome and wonderful that anyone who considers the true nature of Christ can easily identify the virtue that dwells in Him. It is only when we betray His love by representing Him reprehensibly that He seems unloving. It is only when we rob Him of His glorious character by infusing our own lack into His being that His worth is diminished and His value depreciated by our flawed transmission of His message.

I am here to declare that a crime has been committed. Jesus is the victim of identity theft. Every cause and each group has adopted Jesus as their own. They have created Jesus in their own image. It is one of the greatest crimes of history. Even the new improved mellow Saint Mel of the Passion recreated Jesus to suit his view.

Jesus loved women but not as sex objects. Although He may as well have, if you believe the disgusting, immoral, promiscuous, portrayals of some pre-Mel Hollywood representations of Jesus. The Last Temptation of Christ depicted Jesus fantasizing having sex with Mary Magdalene.

Jesus loved His mother but He wasn’t a momma’s boy. Jesus was a strong, bold, male role model. Nevertheless, when viewing the film, one nagging question refused to fade from my mind.  

Surviving the Beating in the Passion?

The beating endured by Jesus in the film was so intense that it seemed impossible for a man, even a strong, bold man, to have lived through the preliminary stages of His torture. Perhaps that is why so much criticism has been leveled against the film from those who believed it to be too violent. The same critics were probably not offended by the violence in other films that included Mel Gibson. Yet some critics skewered his film of the Passion due to the graphic violence. Was the film too violent? No, I do not agree with that assessment. The violence contained in the film was certainly not gratuitous. It was a purposeful fair representation of what Jesus endured. There was a reason for the suffering of Jesus to be shown in the film. It was part and parcel of the Gospel story. In fact, some have posited that the film was not violent enough. That analysis is not unfounded based on the condition described in the Bible. One could still recognize the character playing Jesus on the Cross. The Scripture details that He was beaten beyond recognition.

Why did Jesus keep getting up? Why didn’t He just stay down and symbolically cry “Uncle?” The Cross would not have been escaped. Only the added suffering would have been bypassed. What possessed Him to continue?

Could a normal human being have lived through the beating? I found it perplexing to watch Jesus continue to carry the Cross after being beaten with such severity. It was quite telling to see a strong, healthy man struggle with the same Cross. Simon the Cyrenian was drafted by the Roman soldiers to help Jesus. Simon could barely manhandle the Cross in their two-man team. It was too much for him. Jesus had lost so much blood and had so many unbearable wounds. It seemed impossible for Him to be able to move under His own power, let alone drag a heavy cross through the streets of Jerusalem. Could a normal man have endured? Could a normal man have trudged up the slope to the site of His execution? I guess the answer is dependent on the man’s passion. It may have been impossible for a normal man. But Jesus was not normal. You see, Jesus was on a mission. His will to live exceeded His desire to avoid pain. His will to live exceeded the murderous intent of His enemies. But His will to live was limited to His need to live until He could die the death for which He was destined.

Jesus was divine. But this is not what separated Jesus from other men. I do not ascribe super-human strength to the Son of God. Rather, it was super-human love. Jesus would not quit because He would not fail. Jesus would not stop short of Calvary because He knew all about our need for His death. He knew that our salvation was at stake. Many men and women have been known to accomplish feats of strength beyond their natural ability when called upon in desperate conditions. Some people simply refuse to die until they accomplish their goals. Then they quietly pass on. I chose to attribute His ability to survive the beating and His choice to endure sub-human treatment to the unstoppable love He exhibited. Yet I could not remove the nagging doubt about a human’s ability to endure that much physical torture. Then a country preacher cleared it all up for me.

Pastor Kerry McDaniel put the human ability of Jesus into focus on this subject. He reminded me that Jesus had no sin. Sin is what brought death to mankind. When he stated that, I had a revelation about the character of Jesus in Mr. Gibson’s film. Could any man have endured such a beating and lived? The answer became clear. Yes! Any man who had no sin, because it is sin that brings death. The Jews did not kill Jesus. The Romans did not kill Jesus. I think those nasty soldiers could have beat Jesus until their arms turned into rigatoni. The beating would not kill Jesus. Not even the Crucifixion killed Jesus. He was fully human. But Jesus was without sin. Jesus died on the Cross, but not before He was ready. It was not before His mission was accomplished. My revelation was that it was just as the Bible had detailed the event. In John’s Gospel it is written that “He said, ‘It is finished’ and he bowed his head and he gave up the ghost” (John 19:30). Jesus knew when His work was complete. He knew when He had completed the task of taking our sins away. He would not die until this task was completed. And then no man took His life. He willingly gave it as an offering for sin that we might have life eternal. Jesus could have endured all of the pain inflicted in the film and more. His love was greater than any suffering this world could inflict. His love and His life are eternal. The pain was only temporary.

The only way to make things right is to put Jesus back into the context in which He lived, died, and rose again. As I say in every radio or TV program I produce, “Jesus is Lord . . . and He vuz such a nice Jewish boy.” To that, I will simply add, “Thank you!” 

Copyright 2004 by Randy Weiss, PH.D.


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KEYWORDS: christ; easter; jesus; jews
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To: WKB
Then according to the gospel of meandog just which parts of the Bible ARE accurate.

I suppose my "gospel" would require reading the Bible seriously and inspirationally rather than literally (you a Southern Baptist?)... Because, according to literalists, the earth is no more than 5,000 years old; Jonah was swallowed by a giant fish and then spit out after 3 days in its belly; Samson slew a whole host of ancient Israel's enemy with the jawbone of an ass then was zapped by the Lord because he got a haircut...etc., etc., etc. Yes, Jesus was a special man sent by God. But He is an extremely complex and abstract fully human/god who spoke in parables and mystifying hyperbolic analogies. I don't believe we are meant to understand it all...and, as I stated, I am somewhat of a universalist who firmly believes that a loving God would not condemn everyone who doesn't accept Christ as the only "savior". Thank you.

141 posted on 03/28/2005 12:27:50 PM PST by meandog
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To: stuartcr

fruit of the spirit.


142 posted on 03/28/2005 12:47:41 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: stuartcr

>How do you know that there even are prerogatives? What would God need with them? <

If we are going to play word games lets change the big word to "what rights does God have" as it is concerns us?Can he expect anything from us as our creator?


143 posted on 03/28/2005 12:48:26 PM PST by Blessed
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To: antisocial
Yes he did break the Sabbath as did his disciples.
144 posted on 03/28/2005 1:47:21 PM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Jedidah
2nd Corinthians 8:9 says For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that you through his poverty might be rich.

Jesus was rich on the earth, he walked in power and never had a want go unsuplied by the Father, thats rich. Jesus, however, walked in humility toward God and was obedient so he would have been humble.

Jesus became poor,sick and sinful on the cross, he was not poor, then on the cross became sin and sick. Jesus had divine wealth, divine health and divine righteousness as a man on the earth. Only on the cross was our sickness, poverty and sin laid on him.

145 posted on 03/28/2005 2:02:15 PM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: meandog

who firmly believes that a loving God would not condemn everyone who doesn't accept Christ as the only "savior". Thank you.

I hope you know you can be sincerely wrong about that.
Thank you.


146 posted on 03/28/2005 2:19:31 PM PST by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

"Crucify Him, already! Oyez!"
147 posted on 03/28/2005 2:39:34 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: normy

He committed no sin, so how did He break the Sabbath? Isn't it considered a sin to break the Sabbath?


148 posted on 03/28/2005 2:45:25 PM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Hey there aren't any facts at all in this article. Of course the Jews killed the Christ. It's all written down there in the Bible. That Jewish fellow Isiah prophesized it for Christ's sake. The Jews Matthew, Mark, John and Luke confirm it for Christ's sake. Even the Super Jew himself Jesus told them they would. It sure as hell wasn't a bunch of Romans that said, "May his blood be upon us then." Those were Jews that said that. Duhhhhhh!

And so what? That Jews killed Christ misses the whole flippin point about the Resurrection don't it. The author missed that little factoid too. Christ ain't dead, he is risen!

149 posted on 03/28/2005 2:53:45 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: antisocial

Isn't it considered a sin to break the Sabbath?



Not if you are Lord of the Sabbath

Matt. 12:8
"For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”


150 posted on 03/28/2005 3:02:14 PM PST by WKB (You can half the good and double the bad people say about themselves.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Every Easter, the same 'Did the Jews kill Jesus?' horseshit.

Thanks zealots, for all that you do.

151 posted on 03/28/2005 3:19:40 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: antisocial
Breaking the Sabbath is against the Law of Moses but it is not sin unless its sin in your heart. Thats the point, Jesus showed that for a righteous man the Ten Commandments do not apply, only for the unrighteous.

Remember Abraham was counted righteous by God because of faith. The Ten Commandments were not even around in Abraham's time. Jesus was also righteous by faith and not by the works of the Law. We should be righteous by faith and not the works of the Law.

According to the Ten Commandments, breaking the Sabbath results in death. Most Christians break the Sabbath every Sunday ( the Sabbath is Saturday) so according to the Ten we should die, which is why we become sick and eventually die, its sin working over a period of time on our bodies. Its not just the Sabbath but covetousness and a all the rest. If we say we live by the Ten and break them we are judged by them, if we live by faith then we are under grace and we don't need to sacrifice an animal because we have a sacrifice in Jesus

The fact is we are all under the bondage of the Law until God brings us out of that bondage and we are taught, by God, how to live by faith like Jesus does.

Sin in the eyes of man may not be sin in the eyes of God. According to the religious leaders, Jesus was a sinner and should be put to death. According to God Jesus was not a sinner and we know this because Gods power was shown through Jesus. Jesus couldn't have performed miracles by himself, he said so himself, but it was the power of God working through him. Jesus was approved of God by mighty signs and wonders.

152 posted on 03/29/2005 5:04:00 AM PST by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Cvengr

Sorry, I just can't seem to grasp your analogies..what is fruit of the spirit?


153 posted on 03/29/2005 5:49:43 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Blessed

That was a question, not a word game. How do you know God has prerogatives?

I have no idea what rights God has, as the creator, He makes the rules. I also do not know if He expects anything from us, He made us, so He must know everything about us.


154 posted on 03/29/2005 5:53:09 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr

>I have no idea what rights God has, as the creator, He makes the rules.<

That is the right God has.He makes the rules and yes he does know everything about us.He in fact said in his word(the Bible)that he created us to have a relationship with him.
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

1Cr 1:9 God [is] faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.


155 posted on 03/29/2005 7:18:13 AM PST by Blessed
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To: Blessed

My mistake, I thought you were talking about specific rights.

We believe differently about the bible.


156 posted on 03/29/2005 7:29:32 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: normy

So if we live by faith it's ok to break all of the 10 commandments, and we aren't to be held responsible?
I believe I read somewhere that if we love G-d,
we will obey his commandments.


157 posted on 03/29/2005 7:40:47 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: stuartcr

>We believe differently about the bible.<

How so?


158 posted on 03/29/2005 7:49:51 AM PST by Blessed
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To: normy
>Breaking the Sabbath is against the Law of Moses but it is not sin unless its sin in your heart. Thats the point, Jesus showed that for a righteous man the Ten Commandments do not apply, only for the unrighteous.<

This sounds like the argument being made by a lost world.If we don't consider it a sin it is not a sin.Jesus told us the ten commandments do apply but through God's grace we can avoid the eternal punishment.This entire debate is built on a fallacy.It all rests on the assumption Jesus broke the commandment to keep the Sabbath Holy.He was accused of this but none could make the case.

Luk 13:16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?


Luk 13:17 And when he had said these things, all his adversaries were ashamed: and all the people rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by him.




Luk 14:3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day?


Luk 14:4 And they held their peace. And he took [him], and healed him, and let him go;
159 posted on 03/29/2005 8:06:11 AM PST by Blessed
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To: Blessed

I don't believe that it is the word of God anymore than any other book, although, I do believe that it has some very good lessons to be learned from it, and is a good historical reference.


160 posted on 03/29/2005 10:16:20 AM PST by stuartcr
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