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Gonzales Goes Missing
American Spectator ^ | 03/28/05 | The Prowler

Posted on 03/29/2005 3:30:56 PM PST by ninenot

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To: ninenot
Unlike the Democrats, the Republicans feel constrained by such things as laws and constitutions. I know that's troubling to many here, which is why we should sack the Republicans and replace with people who don't feel the same way.

Free Republic has gone to hell.

21 posted on 03/29/2005 3:50:01 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Bump


22 posted on 03/29/2005 3:50:41 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Dog Gone

There are First Things, and then there are civil laws and constitutions.

Under the civil laws and constitutions of the Third Reich, Hitler's actions were perfectly legal.

So were Clinton's in the Elian Gonzalez affair.

Of course, at FR, there are those who think that a life here, a life there--that's not too important vs. the image of good little Republican boys with their white and unspotted gloves...


23 posted on 03/29/2005 3:52:46 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Dog Gone
Yet not one of these gutless wonders accusing Gonzales was willing to be identified. What do you make of that?
Yep this article or such as it is is repleat with no sources with a name....

Yep this article has documentation to the hilt.....

24 posted on 03/29/2005 3:52:47 PM PST by deport (You know you are getting older when everything either dries up or leaks.)
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To: Dog Gone
Roper: So now you’d give the Devil benefit of law!

More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

Roper: I’d cut down every law in England to do that!

More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you—where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country’s planted thick with laws from coast to coast—man’s laws, not God’s—and if you cut them down—and you’re just the man to do it—d’you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake.

A Man For All Seasons, by Robert Bolt

25 posted on 03/29/2005 3:53:01 PM PST by Poohbah (If it's called "collateral damage," how come I can't use it to secure a loan?)
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To: deport

Jayson Blair just vouched for this story and the sources.


26 posted on 03/29/2005 3:53:41 PM PST by Poohbah (If it's called "collateral damage," how come I can't use it to secure a loan?)
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To: ninenot
Well, ninenot, there have been many patriots who have died protecting our constitution and rule of law. You spit on their graves because you've adopted one case where you're willing to throw those all away.
27 posted on 03/29/2005 3:57:03 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: ninenot
The law convicted the Third Reich. Details!
28 posted on 03/29/2005 3:57:20 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Poohbah

Good post!

Irrelevant and immaterial. More's conundrum was not related to the Life issue (except his own...) and it is clear that under the FL Constitution AND the US Constitution, either executive (or Congressional) actions can be taken.

Further, it is clear that the Fed Courts simply ignored explicit Congressional language in failing to de-novo review the case.


29 posted on 03/29/2005 3:57:31 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Poohbah

Amen to that.


30 posted on 03/29/2005 3:58:08 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Poohbah

I don't worry too much about the Spectator's sources--they have been very reliable reporters of events in DC (and Arkansas) for at least 25 years.


31 posted on 03/29/2005 3:58:29 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Dog Gone

Well, that makes a lot of sense.

Which of those patriots fought to protect legalized MURDER in the USA?

Name a few. I WILL spit on their graves.


32 posted on 03/29/2005 3:59:52 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
More's conundrum was not related to the Life issue (except his own...) and it is clear that under the FL Constitution AND the US Constitution, either executive (or Congressional) actions can be taken.

Actually, it is not clear at all.

Further, it is clear that the Fed Courts simply ignored explicit Congressional language in failing to de-novo review the case.

Please quit blaming the courts for not reaching beyond the pleading filed by Gibbs. He deliberately threw the case by not filing a review for the merits of the ruling, merely by rehashing already-settled procedural arguments.

33 posted on 03/29/2005 4:01:54 PM PST by Poohbah (If it's called "collateral damage," how come I can't use it to secure a loan?)
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To: ninenot

They fought to preserve the Rule of Law, something which you for which you apparently have little respect. Nobody likes every law on the books, and we don't get it right every time, but it's the system and process that has made us the greatest and most compassionate nation on the planet.


34 posted on 03/29/2005 4:08:33 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Is that why he upheld that children do not need parental permission when obtaining abortions? Is that part of the law too? Is pulling a mentally disabled woman's feeding tube part of the law? And was it HIS job to make it that much harder for the Shiavos?

You hit the nail on the head with this post.

35 posted on 03/29/2005 4:08:44 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: ninenot
Somehow, it looks to me as though (Rs) hold ALL the friggin' cards.

Except the biggie. The activist judiciary. They will never control this because they are a bunch of weenies.

36 posted on 03/29/2005 4:11:46 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: ninenot

We should not expect the AG to be about crafting some perfect, legal excuse for protecting and preserving innocent life. It is a matter for the people and all branches of government to be about. In this case, all three branches of government have abdicated their responsibilities. So have a good many citizens.


37 posted on 03/29/2005 4:12:03 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: ninenot

I reckon he's too busy going after the tobacco companies, crafting new "Assault" Weapon Ban legislation and attending La Raza meetings.


38 posted on 03/29/2005 4:13:17 PM PST by Godebert
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To: econ_grad

Beat me to it, eg.


39 posted on 03/29/2005 4:13:45 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Dog Gone

Sorry--I don't have respect for a Rule of Law which allows Murder One by a conniving judge and a craven Husband-In-Name-Only.

And your preaching ain't gonna change my attitude.


40 posted on 03/29/2005 4:14:45 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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