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Vegetarians on Raw-Foods Diets Have Low Bone Mass
Health Day News ^ | 3-30-05 | Kathleen Doheny

Posted on 03/30/2005 9:25:56 AM PST by RushCrush

WEDNESDAY, March 30 (HealthDay News) -- Vegetarians who eat only raw plant-derived foods have abnormally low bone mass, usually an early sign of bone-thinning diseases like osteoporosis, a new study finds.

But the researchers were surprised to learn that other measures of bone health -- such as bone turnover and vitamin D status -- were normal in the strict vegetarians.

"These people have low bone mass but low bone mass is just one aspect of their risk for fracture," said Dr. Luigi Fontana, lead author of the study, published in the current issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine.

"They had low bone mass, so clinically they are at increased risk for fracture. But some of the other markers, like bone turnover, are normal and it's possible the quality of the bone is preserved," he added.

Still, Fontana, a research instructor at Washington University in St. Louis, emphasized he would never advise people to go on a raw-foods vegetarian diet, in which people eat only plant-derived foods that have not been cooked, processed or otherwise altered.

"It's too extreme," he said.

Fontana's team studied the effects of raw plant-derived eating plans partly because there is a dearth of research on the diets and their impact. He compared the bone density and such measures as vitamin D status in 18 people who ate a raw-foods vegetarian diet for an average of 3.6 years. A control group consisted of another 18 people who ate a typical American diet. The ages of both groups ranged from 33 to 85 and none of the participants was concerned about their bone health, he said.

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1 posted on 03/30/2005 9:25:57 AM PST by RushCrush
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To: RushCrush
The ages of both groups ranged from 33 to 85

Interesting.

2 posted on 03/30/2005 9:29:20 AM PST by syriacus (Liberals + logic - these two don't mix. Post kindly + carry a BIG font. We musn't starve bulimics)
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To: RushCrush

Nonsense. Lanky frame, wide sunken eyes, and boney joints are perfectly healthy.

Make your babies and toddlers grow up vegan, even if they beg for meat!


3 posted on 03/30/2005 9:30:21 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: syriacus

"Luigi Fontana"? God, what a great name. Any relation to Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders?


4 posted on 03/30/2005 9:31:26 AM PST by RexBeach (If Bill Clinton is in a room alone, is anyone really there?)
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To: SteveMcKing

You'll never see a veggie in the NFL.


5 posted on 03/30/2005 9:32:05 AM PST by albie
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To: RushCrush

...so, now we know what made Adolph so evil!


6 posted on 03/30/2005 9:32:29 AM PST by meandog
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To: RushCrush
This story makes me hunger for a boxed lunch...I think I'll get myself a Veal Parm sandwich...
7 posted on 03/30/2005 9:32:48 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: RushCrush

Contrast this with the yahoo title 'thin but healthy'


8 posted on 03/30/2005 9:32:52 AM PST by cyborg (Biafran woman, " Starvation is beautiful? This is news to me! ")
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To: RushCrush

DUmmies are chewey; Freepers are crunchy.


9 posted on 03/30/2005 9:35:01 AM PST by Blogatron (- Automated Freeping Device. (Please insert 2 cents for the next rightist harangue))
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To: RushCrush
Thin birdlike bones? All you need is a sheet of nylon and string - Voila! KiteMan!

(Powerlines and unruly trees are his only weakness)
10 posted on 03/30/2005 9:35:49 AM PST by Sax
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To: cyborg

ping.


11 posted on 03/30/2005 9:35:52 AM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: RushCrush
They may have low bone mass, but at least they feel superior!
12 posted on 03/30/2005 9:36:05 AM PST by SIDENET
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To: ambrose

The vegetarians ate about 1,285 to 2,432 calories a day, with about 9.1 percent of those calories from protein, 43.2 percent from fat and 47.7 percent from carbohydrates. Their intake of calcium and vitamin D was low, 579 milligrams and 16 units, respectively, a day

** spinach and collard greens as much calcium as a glass of milk..with a little carrot to go with it, it's good. Of course their bone mass is low because they're not intaking any calcium. Then again, they're not obese and need to have denser bones.


13 posted on 03/30/2005 9:36:25 AM PST by cyborg (Biafran woman, " Starvation is beautiful? This is news to me! ")
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To: Rytwyng

thanks for the ping...to each his own. PETA has not done the best job of promoting vegan eating as an alternative to meat.


14 posted on 03/30/2005 9:38:27 AM PST by cyborg (Biafran woman, " Starvation is beautiful? This is news to me! ")
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To: RushCrush

Sounds like a dysfunction...........think Viagra would help?


15 posted on 03/30/2005 9:39:48 AM PST by kahoutek
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To: RushCrush
Vegetarians who eat only raw plant-derived foods have abnormally
low bone mass brain matter, usually an early sign of ignorance and stupidity.
16 posted on 03/30/2005 9:40:11 AM PST by oh8eleven
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To: RushCrush

I would think that vegetarians may be more prone also to a deficiency of complete proteins. To be vegan and to get enough complete proteins, a person would need to consume a lot of nut butter with whole grains, meaning a higher than normal fat diets. Lacto ovo vegetarians have an easier time of consuming lower fat complete proteins, but even then, they lose out on some necessary minerals that can only be absorbed when red meat is consumed.

This is what the science is, not what we want it to be.

An adult man tends to need 62 grams of complete proteins per day.

An adult woman who is fit and under 40 needs about 44 grams of complete proteins per day. As she ages, her protein needs increase also to 62 grams per day.

It's great to have an individualized approach to good health and good nutrition. I agree that diet is not a one size fits all kind of thing. But even if a food contains a nutrient, it doesn't mean that the body uses it.


17 posted on 03/30/2005 9:40:47 AM PST by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: SteveMcKing

Vegies are amaciated no energy creeps!


18 posted on 03/30/2005 9:41:21 AM PST by dalereed
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To: cyborg

ping after work I'll let you know some of what I do


19 posted on 03/30/2005 9:41:33 AM PST by Dad yer funny
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To: cyborg
PETA has not done the best job of promoting vegan eating as an alternative to meat.

Who the heck would want to eat a vegan?

20 posted on 03/30/2005 9:42:07 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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