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Vegetarians on Raw-Foods Diets Have Low Bone Mass
Health Day News ^ | 3-30-05 | Kathleen Doheny

Posted on 03/30/2005 9:25:56 AM PST by RushCrush

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To: RushCrush

Veggies aren't food, veggies what food eats.


21 posted on 03/30/2005 9:42:15 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

good point :o)


22 posted on 03/30/2005 9:42:45 AM PST by cyborg (Biafran woman, " Starvation is beautiful? This is news to me! ")
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To: SteveMcKing
Make your babies and toddlers grow up vegan, even if they beg for meat!

And then there are the vegans that impose a vegan diet on dogs and cats. I'm sure their pets love them!

23 posted on 03/30/2005 9:43:21 AM PST by Drew68
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To: cyborg
spinach and collard greens as much calcium as a glass of milk

...but the oxalates (in spinach at least) prevent absorption, as does phytic acid in unsprouted grains. Vegetable calcium generally has low bioavaliablity relative to dairy and seafood. And with vitamin D intake so low, it can't be utilized anyway.

Ancient Dietary Wisdom

24 posted on 03/30/2005 9:43:58 AM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us...)
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To: RushCrush

Abnormally high amounts of estrogen found in soy proteins. Can you say man boobs and low sex libido in both male and females?

Balance is not natural to an insane mind.


25 posted on 03/30/2005 9:44:23 AM PST by sully777 (It's like my momma always said, "Two wrongs don't make a right but two Wrights make an airplane.")
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To: Rytwyng

interesting link...not everyone has the same routine. I make green drinks but some vegetarians I know drink raw goat milk. I am not opposed to raw goat milk and homemade cheeses but unfortunately I meet some pretty self righteous vegans who would disagree.


26 posted on 03/30/2005 9:46:46 AM PST by cyborg (Biafran woman, " Starvation is beautiful? This is news to me! ")
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To: SteveMcKing
Make your babies and toddlers grow up vegan, even if they beg for meat!

It's not bad.Two of my children are not allowed to eat any meat.(Phenylketonuric)No eyes sunk in,no lanky frame,and no boney joints.They're actually healthier than our last baby,who does not have PKU.

27 posted on 03/30/2005 9:46:47 AM PST by quack
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To: cyborg
I meet some pretty self righteous vegans

Just in case I have to defend myself from these, which works better... pepper spray or roundup?

28 posted on 03/30/2005 9:48:27 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Who the heck would want to eat a vegan?

Considering most of the meat we eat comes from herbivores I'd bet that a vegan would probably taste pretty good! Might not be much meat but I'm sure they'd BBQ nicely.

29 posted on 03/30/2005 9:49:22 AM PST by Drew68
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To: cyborg

How long have you been a vegeterian?


30 posted on 03/30/2005 9:49:57 AM PST by since1868
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To: quack

I have a neice who is being raised vegan who is a little pudge-bucket, and her vegan parents look like the local healthy Republicans that they are.

Nice to hear your kids turned OK with PKU!


31 posted on 03/30/2005 9:50:53 AM PST by najida (I wish I had Tina Turner's legs, Ann Coulter's brains and Paris Hilton's credit cards.)
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To: since1868

Not long but my employer has been one all his life. I know many long term vegetarians, vegans and a few raw-foodists. I've cut out meat and milk and it's done wonders for me.


32 posted on 03/30/2005 9:51:39 AM PST by cyborg (Biafran woman, " Starvation is beautiful? This is news to me! ")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Use pepper spray. You may get a lecture about poisonous garden chemicals ;-)


33 posted on 03/30/2005 9:52:28 AM PST by cyborg (Biafran woman, " Starvation is beautiful? This is news to me! ")
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To: dalereed
Vegies are amaciated no energy creeps!

Many, yes, but not all of them! My mother was raised Seventh Day Adventist and has been a lacto-vegetarian most of her life. She has some health problems, but she's doing pretty darn well at ninety-one years.

I think the key is to be careful about your nutrition, veggie or carnie.

34 posted on 03/30/2005 9:52:29 AM PST by SupplySider
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To: RushCrush

How do they measure bone density? Does anyone here know? Is it an easy or inexpensive measurement?


35 posted on 03/30/2005 9:53:49 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: SteveMcKing

This article is talking about raw food vegetarian not vegans in general. The two are not same. One can be a vegan without being a raw food vegetarian. But I agree with you I think both are too restricted especially for children. I am a lacto-ovo vegetarian which I think is a lot more easy to balance and is generally more sane. I'm not anti-meat. I just don't much like it.


36 posted on 03/30/2005 9:54:30 AM PST by foolscap
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To: cyborg

Do you drink soy milk ?


37 posted on 03/30/2005 9:54:53 AM PST by najida (I wish I had Tina Turner's legs, Ann Coulter's brains and Paris Hilton's credit cards.)
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To: cyborg

I'm curious, was it a health decision? and by wonders, do you mean weight loss? I've been considering it.


38 posted on 03/30/2005 9:55:06 AM PST by RushCrush (The FReeper formerly known as Alias. I AM equal time!!)
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To: cyborg
thanks for the ping...to each his own. PETA has not done the best job of promoting vegan eating as an alternative to meat.

Considering the facts don't support it, I think they do a pretty good job. They have a bogus medical group that puts out 'studies' which the MSM usually picks up.

39 posted on 03/30/2005 9:55:26 AM PST by Always Right
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To: cyborg
unfortunately I meet some pretty self righteous vegans who would disagree.

Somebody's diet is their own business but when they become sanctimonious and try to impose their diet on everyone I tend to get a little ticked off! PETA is typical of this attitude.

Incidentally, most of the vegetarians I knew in college either ate meat on the sly or gave up their vegetarian diet altogether by the time they reached their mid 20s. It was just too difficult to continue to deny their bodies.

40 posted on 03/30/2005 9:55:37 AM PST by Drew68
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