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BUFFETT WAS IN THE DARK ON TAINTED AIG DEALS (Warren didn't know?)
NY POST ^ | 3/30/05 | RICHARD WILNER

Posted on 03/30/2005 2:31:09 PM PST by Liz

Warren Buffett didn't know how AIG's Hank Greenberg was going to use or misuse reinsurance products sold to the insurer in 2001.

The Oracle of Omaha, who is expected to be questioned by insurance regulators in two weeks about the deals with AIG, "was not briefed on how the transactions were to be structured," his company, Berkshire Hathaway, said yesterday.

Neither was Buffett, 74, briefed "on any improper use or purposes of the transactions"........

Greenberg and AIG are under fire from both federal and state regulators for the structure of several deals, including those with Buffett's General Reinsurance, that were no more than thinly veiled attempts to inflate reserves.

The pressure from the SEC and from Spitzer has crushed AIG stock recently and led to Greenberg's announcement at 10:49 p.m. Monday night that he would not stand for reelection as AIG chairman but would retire.

Two weeks earlier, Greenberg was forced to resign as CEO, a position he held for nearly 40 years.

Separately, AIG said it stepped up security at its Bermuda-based American International Co. in a memo prohibiting destruction of documents or removal of files.

Greenberg joins his son, Jeffrey Greenberg, who was forced out by Spitzer as CEO of insurance broker Marsh & McLennan in October.

Spitzer yesterday commended the AIG board for its actions, which he called "wise."

"[It] has moved quickly to address problems uncovered by an investigation by my office and the SEC," Spitzer said in a statement. "The board brought in outside counsel to investigate wrongdoing, and is cooperating fully with regulators. The board has made difficult decisions, including major personnel changes."

Spitzer said without the elder Greenberg atop the giant insurer, the months-long probe is now "on a path toward resolution."

Shares of AIG were up $1.18, or 2.07 percent, to $58.20.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aig; buffett; generalre
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.....Buffett didn't know how AIG's Hank Greenberg (now retired) was going to use or misuse reinsurance products sold to the insurer in 2001. .........AIG said it stepped up security at its Bermuda-based American International Co. in a memo prohibiting destruction of documents or removal of files......

Maybe Ken Lay shoulda "retired" to escape justice (/sarc).

1 posted on 03/30/2005 2:31:09 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

someone call Bernie Ebbers - tell him he should have kept his stock high by buying other companies. Worked for WB.


2 posted on 03/30/2005 2:35:37 PM PST by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a; Grampa Dave; A. Pole

Yeah, Bernie really screwed-up that one (/sarc).


3 posted on 03/30/2005 2:37:29 PM PST by Liz ("There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men." Edmund Burke)
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To: q_an_a

Buffett is a crook. He is currently shorting the US dollar while he and Bill Gates is going around the nation telling people that the dollar has a long way to go before hitting bottom. SEC should be looking into his business practices.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


4 posted on 03/30/2005 2:40:35 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (<<<------- shameless promotion- visit & win my love forever)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
He is currently shorting the US dollar while he and Bill Gates is going around the nation telling people that the dollar has a long way to go before hitting bottom. SEC should be looking into his business practices.

If they find some serious problems at AIG, you can almost bet even money that the SEC will start looking at Berkshire Hathaway's relationship with AIG. That could cause no end of trouble for Warren Buffett, and it might just lead into an investigation of the financial operations of Buffett's financial empire. We may be at the tip of a financial scandal that could make Enron and Worldcom look like a minor event in comparison.

5 posted on 03/30/2005 2:49:37 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: Liz
Why, this is almost as corrupt as the Schiavo case!*

*[2005 Terri Award Nominee, "Most oblique reference to the topic that must be mentioned on every single #@$&ing thread"]

6 posted on 03/30/2005 3:21:16 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: Liz

Follow the money; he's dirty as sin.


8 posted on 03/30/2005 3:28:35 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: RayChuang88

I'd absolutely love to see the Oracle of Omaha in cuffs...what a friggn hypocrite. All my Liberal friends are going to take a bath on that expensive BH stock they adore, LOL.


9 posted on 03/30/2005 4:52:07 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero.)
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To: iopscusa

Biggest tax shelter in the world-for Buffett. Won't even pay a modicum of dividend to shareholders.


10 posted on 03/30/2005 5:07:38 PM PST by donozark (ATTENTION MICHAEL MOORE:Please go to the courtesy desk. The forklift you requested is ready!)
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To: Liz
My sense (for all that it is worth) is that Mr. Buffet runs a good business in a business-like fashion. I don't think it's likely that he would trouble himself to do something indefensible -- he's quite wealthy and it really wouldn't be that sensible, and if there is anything that Mr. Buffet is sensible about, it's the cost/benefit ratio of various activities.

Some of the takes that the government have espoused in various cases about financial products makes me wonder if their prosecutors have any real understanding of what they are prosecuting. Clear problems, such as the bid-rigging, are mixed in with items that are not so clearly a problem at all.

11 posted on 03/30/2005 5:16:00 PM PST by snowsislander (Isa41:17-When the poor and needy seek water,and there is none,and their tongue faileth for thirst...)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Follow the money; he's dirty as sin.

No problem. What's he accused of doing, and what is the evidense?

12 posted on 03/30/2005 5:20:23 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Nathaniel Fischer

"I wasn't aware that that was illegal."

His actions may not be illegal, but it’s deceitful at best. He is buying positions short on the dollar, and THEN uses his fame to talk the dollar down. Buffet control enough wealth to push the dollar down just by leveraging through option contracts. When you add this to the press conferences, I believe he is manipulating the markets. He controls a massive amount of wealth through his company, and his actions are not appropriate.

Holtz
JeffersonRepublic.com


13 posted on 03/30/2005 6:51:40 PM PST by JeffersonRepublic.com (<<<------- shameless promotion- visit & win my love forever)
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To: Liz

Buffet doesn't know diddly about reinsurance - a very technical business and a gambler's paradise. Big bucks and big risk. He runs a holding co. and lets existing management work the businesses that he buys. Watch for General Re names to show up as this develops - Ferguson, Brandon...


14 posted on 03/30/2005 7:11:11 PM PST by Ol' Sox
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

Buffet is a super rich and elite member of the Rat Party.

So he will skate by on this.

Speaking of Crooks, pray you never get hit by a Geico Driver, (Geico one of Buffet's companies.)

We were rear ended by a a Geico Drive before Christmas and Geico has yet to pay a nickel.


15 posted on 03/31/2005 5:43:59 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: donozark; SierraWasp; Liz; Southack

"Biggest tax shelter in the world-for Buffett. Won't even pay a modicum of dividend to shareholders."


Buffet went bonkers re GW's tax plan to cut the tax on dividends. He advised Arnold to get rid of prop 13 before Arnold dumped him as his financial advisor re how help California.

Anyone who owns mutual funds or stocks that don't declare dividends, might want to sell them.


16 posted on 03/31/2005 5:47:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

That is Buffet's modus operandi in his public securities plays.

He poo-pooed corporate bonds down a few years back and then gobbled them up.

He is not stupid but he does have some snake oil in him.

And his politics and behavior towards family leave a lot to be desired.

And lest we forget, he is one of the world's leading financiers of infanticide.


17 posted on 03/31/2005 5:52:42 AM PST by wardaddy ("Finally!, A Man Worth Killing!")
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks for the input.


18 posted on 03/31/2005 7:25:11 AM PST by Liz ("There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men." Edmund Burke)
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To: snowsislander; Grampa Dave
"Some of the takes that the government have espoused in various cases about financial products makes me wonder if their prosecutors have any real understanding of what they are prosecuting. Clear problems, such as the bid-rigging, are mixed in with items that are not so clearly a problem at all."

Yes, and Eliot Spithead fancies himself as Eliot Ness reincarnate... The big "Untouchable" ya know... Phhhhhht!!!

AIG's biggest mistake was ever getting involved in any way with the so-called "Oracle of Omaha!"

19 posted on 03/31/2005 7:36:00 AM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting America Progress!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Better known as the leftist Whoracle of Omaha.
20 posted on 03/31/2005 7:40:33 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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