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Catholic Priest: Terri Schiavo Responsive Til Death, Prayed With Family
LifeNews ^ | March 31, 2005 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 03/31/2005 2:55:34 PM PST by rhema

A leading Catholic priest who visited Terri Schiavo on two separate occasions in the hours before her death says Terri was in a weakened medical condition from 13 days of starvation but was responsive until her death. The disabled woman even prayed with her family.

"Last night, I spent about two hours with her until past midnight, together with Bobby Schindler and Suzanne, and then again this morning for about an hour and a half, and then right up until about ten minutes before she died," Father Frank Pavone said.

Pavone, the director of Priests for Life, said most of the time was spent in prayer with and for Terri and telling her that people across the country supported her.

When he prayed, Pavone said "She was very responsive -- closing her eyes when I said, 'Let's pray together, Terri,' opening them up after the prayer."

Pavone made the remarks in an interview with Renew America, a grassroots organization headed by former presidential candidate Alan Keyes.

He indicated Terri was smiling and "returning the kiss of her father" as well as "turning her eyes to me when I spoke to her."

"In many other ways, as well, responsive," Pavone added.

"Even today, although, of course, with the effects of the dehydration, her response was much less," Pavone told Renew America. "Nevertheless, her eyes were open, her eyes were moving, and as I prayed with her."

Pavone talked about how Terri Schiavo's plight and the national debate surrounding her life and death will continue as the nation grapples with end of life issues.

"Terri didn't die today from anything except the fact that her food and water were withheld for the last two weeks," he said. "She had no other underlying illness whatsoever. This is a case of throwing away a disabled person

"And we have to ask ourselves, has our nation now begun to go down the road of killing those who are disabled, simply because somebody says that they want to be killed," Pavone concluded


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To: St. Johann Tetzel

I heard Fr. Pavone (by the way, I've never been more proud to be a Catholic than when I heard him take to the mike) today on CA Live, and I don't believe he was referring to seeing her today when he made mention of her closing her eyes when he prayed and opening them again when he was finished. I believe he was referring to sometime in the recent past. Could be wrong, but that's what I got from hearing him.


181 posted on 03/31/2005 5:49:11 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: OKIEDOC
Secularists are in jubilation, screaming from the top of their joyous voices, Terri's dead, Terrie's dead, praise Lucifer Terri's dead.

Can you point out to me any examples of this?

182 posted on 03/31/2005 5:49:56 PM PST by malakhi
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

As I said, he can say whatever he wants, and none of his supporters will question it.


183 posted on 03/31/2005 5:50:58 PM PST by malakhi
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To: little jeremiah
Plus, her soul was getting prepared for the journey.

Amen. I pray for the journey of Terri's soul. May God speed her way to His embrace.

I'm so sorry we lost her. . .

184 posted on 03/31/2005 5:51:09 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless you, Terri, and all who truly loved you and tried to help you...God help the U.S.A)
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To: mass55th

I hate to say "thanks" under the circumstances but "thanks" for that link. I plan to post that photo on my car as a reminder to everyone what happened today may have been the end of Terri's mortal existence but it also marks the beginning of my own determination to expose not just euthanasia advocates but also the left as a demented, callous, hypocritical whole. Till my last breath!

Take care my friend!


185 posted on 03/31/2005 5:51:14 PM PST by torchthemummy ("Terrorism has less to do with economic poverty than with political poverty." - Jane Novak)
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To: little jeremiah
Excellent posts, thank you.

Of course, an atheist and materialist would discount this. If one wants to think that a person is no more than a machine, they will not perceive anything else.

And machines can be destroyed at will, as we saw today.

186 posted on 03/31/2005 5:51:43 PM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.)
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To: AlbionGirl
by the way, I've never been more proud to be a Catholic than when I heard him take to the mike

Amen!!!

Between Fr. Pavone and the heroic witness of the Pope and the Vatican over the past week, I am renewed in hope and faith, despite the murderous evil abroad in our land.

187 posted on 03/31/2005 5:56:19 PM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.)
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To: maryz
Felos sounded near hysterical, I thought -- I guess Fr. Pavone really made an impression!

According to my understanding of the Word of God, demon-possession can really happen. That hysteria is from Felos' spirit-master whenever a man of God is around.

188 posted on 03/31/2005 5:57:36 PM PST by Aarchaeus
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To: mass55th

oh my word.

oh my word.


189 posted on 03/31/2005 5:59:49 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: verity

"I do not believe him and you cannot provide proof that he did not prevaricate."

I don't have the time or the will to check all of your recent posts but I would guess that you didn't once state that Felos and Michael Schiavo "prevaricated" their suppossed truths.

Verity: the quality or state of being true or real. Yeah, whatever you twit!

By the way I don't need proof to know that on the day of Terri's death you had the amazing callousness to state that of which you cannot prove either way.


190 posted on 03/31/2005 6:00:19 PM PST by torchthemummy ("Terrorism has less to do with economic poverty than with political poverty." - Jane Novak)
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To: Wolfstar

"I didn't have to be to know that anyone who claims Terri Schiavo said anything in many years is a bald-faced liar."

So what about the 2002 tape that was released today that had Terri responding to her father?

I know what your answer is so I'll just that as a NH resident, try coming out here and I'll show you what "Live Free or Die" means!


191 posted on 03/31/2005 6:03:31 PM PST by torchthemummy ("Terrorism has less to do with economic poverty than with political poverty." - Jane Novak)
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To: Wolfstar
Lies coming from the parent's side?

I have heard these devout and good people. I really don't think that lying is part of their make-up. They were fighting like hell to save their daughter from destruction, as were the people that supported them.

Extremists?

You want to support killing of the handicapped, be my guest.

But its a damn dark day for this country, and if you want to encourage that murder, well then I guess you can.

192 posted on 03/31/2005 6:06:04 PM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs a soldier)
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To: antiRepublicrat
No, but in my medical training I got to know the results of severe dehydration. Near the end the brain starts seriously misfiring. This leads to delirium, sometimes convulsions, and if the sodium balance was thrown off cerebral edema (swelling of the brain). A perfectly normal person won't be very responsive in this late stage.

I was watching a documentary about cannibalism on the History Channel and it did go through the effects of starvation on the human body when how the organs go dormant and so on as well as affecting the brain. When a person gets so starved, he goes "crazy" for lack of a better term where scientists do say this brings on the odea of cannibalism. It also affects judgement too where one expedition to the North Pole failed and the ship's crew resorted to cannibalism and made wrong decisions like taking treasure with them instead of hunting for food and letting the stuff go to lessen their burden. Of course, Terri is different from that but as you put it, starvation affects the brain. Also the human body is like a battery in your car, with little water, the starter turns slow and your headlights dim and when there is no water, your car won't start at all.
193 posted on 03/31/2005 6:06:44 PM PST by Nowhere Man (I heard Satan laughing with delight, the day Terri died. B-( (with apologies to Don McLean))
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To: It's me
All in Heaven are saints.

Actually, according to the Bible, all Christians are saints: Phil 1:1-2 Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi,with the bishops and deacons: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

194 posted on 03/31/2005 6:07:02 PM PST by Aarchaeus
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To: rhema

Would this have happened to Terri if she had been black, an illegal alien or a muslim terrorist? I doubt it.


195 posted on 03/31/2005 6:12:13 PM PST by GrammaLou
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To: kstewskis; Northern Yankee
There are 4 words I'd pay to hear after the autopsy:

To Michael: “You are under arrest”

196 posted on 03/31/2005 6:20:15 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: antiRepublicrat; little jeremiah; rhema; Ohioan from Florida; floriduh voter; amdgmary; ...
>>>>She was very responsive

>>Now I'm seriously having doubts about all the talk we've been hearing from the Schindlers about Terri being responsive. A person near death by dehydration will not be very responsive, and likely be in delirium, if not a coma.

antiRepublicrat: The problem is you don't know the history of what Father Pavone said after his Feb 6th 2005 visit with Terri, and by not knowing that, you have mis-read the paragraphs.

Paragraph 8 is where Father Pavone starts discussing Terri's condition TODAY in comparison to his last visit.

Here is what Father Pavone said in mid-february... It matches what is shown above in paragraphs 4 and 6. You can LISTEN to it with the link below.



And to the death-monger GHOULS who come to this, and other Terri-thread today, to pour salt into the wounds of those grieving, you should all be ASHAMED of themselves. You know who you are, but maybe not everyone here who is grieving does.... (showing just the WPPFF members who came to THIS thread to argue with mourners:...
Chad Fairbanks, Wolfstar, verity, Drango, malakhi, marajade,...)
You and your anti-Terri friends have been hiding out in the smokey backroom on this thread and others, plotting and organizing attacks against Terri-supporters, backslapping each other, baiting, and making up drinking games for each time you successfully goaded a flaming reaction to you, and worse. Many of you were giddy for this day to come.

Admin Moderator: Thank you for what you said in post 58. Bless you.



And to those who did not catch it earlier... THIS bears repeating...

FREEPER DISSENTION over Terri: Enough is Enough

197 posted on 03/31/2005 6:20:31 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: NYer; All

"O Christ our God,
you will come in glory on the last day
to judge the living and the dead.
All people will stand before your almighty Throne
to hear your judgment and to receive your reward.
On that day the light of truth will shine forth
revealing every inner conscience and
dividing all people to the right an to the left."TOTAL TRUTH!!!!!AMEN!!!THANK YOU"NYer"


198 posted on 03/31/2005 6:20:43 PM PST by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen.")
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To: Future Useless Eater

thanks for the clarification


199 posted on 03/31/2005 6:21:42 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: anonymoussierra; NYer

Amen and Amen.


200 posted on 03/31/2005 6:21:51 PM PST by Siobhan (Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.)
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