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1 posted on 03/31/2005 4:30:05 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Another criminal Clintonista.


2 posted on 03/31/2005 4:31:47 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: neverdem

Boy! Talk about preferential treatment. Makes me gag.


3 posted on 03/31/2005 4:31:59 PM PST by ImpotentRage
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While the plea agreement requires Mr. Berger to give up his secret security clearance for three years, it also allows him to have his clearance reviewed and restored within that time if the government were to ask him to serve on a panel or in another position with access to sensitive material, associates said.

Anyone think Hillery! isn't going to run now?


4 posted on 03/31/2005 4:32:14 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neverdem

Sandy going to get OWNED!


5 posted on 03/31/2005 4:32:30 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: neverdem
This is a vanity article I posted last summer when this story first broke. I make the point through personal experince with classified data, that Berger's claims of an 'honest' mistake is an absolute lie.

As with the Clintonistas' Modus Operandi in the past, they count on the media not asking the difficult questions. Also, they count on those in the public with no personal experience or knowledge to know any difference when they lie. My goal with this article is to pose the difficult questions and to inform those without personal knowledge of how classified data is handled how the circumstances posed by Berger and his defenders is a lie.

I called our local Clear Channel station the night after this story broke and spoke for about 10 minutes describing the procedures used to handle classified information. The following is a basic description of what I said ...

1) A person who wishes to review classified information at a given facility must have his/her clearance on file with the security office that has legal custody of the information.

2) Once they arrive to the facility, they must show their credentials to identify themselves, sign into the facility - maybe issued a badge indicating their clearance and access and escorted to the room where the material will be reviewed.

3) A quick sidebar on program access and document marking. The term "Access" refers to the concept of "Need to Know". The fact you have a clearance that matches the level required to have access to the material does not establish your "need to know". It must be determined by someone like a program manager or security personnel that your job function requires access to certain information. If you are granted access, you may be required to go through another level of investigation. Some levels of access (at least the ones I was exposed to) are known as "Special Need to Know" or SNTK (pronounced Snick) and "Special Access Required" or SAR. Programs with these designations require special prominent markings on each page of a classified document along with the classification level. Believe it or not, after all the markings (top and bottom) there usually is enough room for the content of the page.

4) I should also mention that each paragraph of the document starts with a designation indicating the classification level of that paragraph. This would look like (U), (C), (S), (S/SAR), (S/SNTK), (TS) or (TS/SAR). Every page is marked top and bottom based upon the highest level of any paragraph on that page. ie. it's possible to have an unclassified page in a top secret document. And as you might think, the overall classification of the document is classified at the highest level of any single page.

5) This next point is especially important in light of the current investigation. Every page is marked "Page x of y Pages". For example page 13 of a 32 page document would be clearly marked in the banner section of the page "Page 13 of 32 Pages". This is done for obvious reasons - if any page is missing, it can be accounted for. The page count is also part of the document's registration in the security catalog.

6) Once in the room, the container (probably a safe i.e. a very heavy duty file cabinet with heavy combination locks with different combinations on each drawer) is opened. This process should be logged by security personnel.

7) The documents are taken from the container. All classified documents are stamped (each page) with items such as a control number, date of creation, level of clearance (top and bottom), program name indicating what access is required and eventual dispensation (i.e. when the material is designated to destruction if applicable).

8) If the documents are classified "top secret", each document has a log on the cover sheet. EACH time a person has access to this information, they must sign and date it.

9) The material is not to be removed (ie stuffed in underwear, socks ... etc) without approval of security personnel. If this takes place, the transfer is documented on both ends of the transaction. If the material is top secret or above, it requires at least two cleared people as an escort.

10) If you travel overnight, the material is not to be kept in your hotel/motel room but instead must be taken to an approved facility. Arrangements are usually made in advance. Security people do not like suprise visits. They like to make them but not receive them.

11) No photocopies are to be made or notes copied without the proper security personnel logging this activity and making appropriate markings (mentioned above) on the documents.

12) This material is frequently audited by internal security agents and is subject to "suprise" audits conducted by military, FBI or other external security personnel.

13) People given access to this type of information are briefed and attend classes on how to handle this material - ie. no excuses for "honest mistakes".

14) As the NSA for the Clinton administration, I imagine Berger was personally responsible that this protocol was designed, implemented and enforced by his staff - at least in an appropriately managed administration. This would apply to government employees, officials, military personnel and civilians under contract and extended clearances issued by the DoD, DoE or other intel operations.

15) As such, ANYBODY who has worked in this environment and heard Mr. Berger's comments yesterday about being "sloppy" and "an honest mistake" knows beyond any doubt that he was not only lying, but this was a premeditated act.

16) I left the aerospace business(as an engineer) in 1993 so these comments are based upon the security world of that time. Only Lord knows how the Clinton administration changed things during his 8 years.

That summarizes what I mentioned to Steve Cannon of WTVN 610 AM (Columbus, Oh) the night after the story broke.

I should have added another issue that may pertain to the current case. The concept of "Working papers". This would be scratch material that is never intended to end up in a document being prepared. For example, preliminary drafts, graphics with various scales, handdrawn sketches, ... etc. Usually, this kind of material is kept in a folder or envelope which is marked as a regular document would be. This folder falls under the same criteria as a regular document ie locking up when not being used ... etc. Usually, this material is collected on a regular basis when the work is finished and tossed into a "burn barrel". The burn barrel is emptied periodically by cleared personnel and either burned or processed through an approved shredder (ends up as dust).

The latest word I have heard is that this material was classified "Code Word Access". Folks, if true, this is "Above Top Secret" ie. John Pollard type material.

So the question comes to mind, why would anybody do such a thing under conditions where he knew he stood a huge chance of being caught? The mission must have been extraordinary for such a risk. The presumption is that he wanted to alter or remove and destroy material that implicated either himself, or quite possibly Mr. Clinton. The fact that some of the material is "lost" implies that regardless of the consequences, the mission has been accomplished with his current situation collateral damage.

Webb Hubbell's infamous quote "I guess I'll have to roll over again for Hillary" comes to mind. Another example of the Clinton whirlwind leaving a trail of destruction in its wake.

I should stress that I'm no security expert - but I did work in that environment for nearly 12 years as an engineer in the aerospace industry (stealth technology). Amongst my duties, I was also the secured computer contact person during our department's audits with "The customer" and the FBI. This included things like proving procedures were being followed concerning the registering, cataloging and tracking of classified storage media, secured networks, hardcopy audit trails ... etc. It was not very exciting work - very boring but also needed.

Because of this work, I have a good idea of what that part of the world looks like. Who knows though after #42 and his crowd. I remember how O'leary (spelling) turned the DoE upside down with her wacky ideas of security. Remember the classified media supposedly found behind the copy machine during the Wen Ho-Li case? I have a friend who works for a private computer consulting firm that is contracted by the DoE and I think the DoD to perform inspections at government and contractor facilities. He told me the rules changed significantly during Clinton's years (to the worse) but I have no first hand knowledge
6 posted on 03/31/2005 4:32:52 PM PST by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: neverdem

He got off easy, he should have his security clearance permanently revoked.


9 posted on 03/31/2005 4:34:10 PM PST by rllngrk33 (The UN is a worldwide criminal enterprise run by third world thugs with your tax $$)
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To: neverdem

this was worth waiting for!


11 posted on 03/31/2005 4:34:49 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: cyncooper

A 'did you see this?' ping. Your thoughts?


12 posted on 03/31/2005 4:35:07 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: neverdem

Another slap on the wrist for the well connected. This is a total joke. Chuck Colson goes to prison for ONE file he took while the Clinton Mafia gets away with document murder...from FBI files to Sandy "Sticky Fingers" Berger.


15 posted on 03/31/2005 4:37:13 PM PST by Fledermaus (It is now clear the Founding Fathers were wrong: free people cannot govern themselves!)
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To: neverdem

I bet he hates the Ten Commandments as they talk about stealing and lying.


21 posted on 03/31/2005 4:39:58 PM PST by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: neverdem

Not to be conspiratorial or anything, but does anyone think its curious that this is announced on the same day as Terri Schiavo dying and the Pope apparently on his deathbed?


22 posted on 03/31/2005 4:40:22 PM PST by cincinnati65 (Just up the road a piece.......)
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To: neverdem

I blame his pants


24 posted on 03/31/2005 4:40:51 PM PST by woofie (Im here again I just dont know where I am)
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To: neverdem

Maybe we should starve and dehydrate him to death!


29 posted on 03/31/2005 4:43:42 PM PST by evangmlw (")
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and he cut three copies into small pieces with a scissors,

That, by the way, might have been an additional crime: improper disposal.

Even if otherwise permitted to destroy a document, that is not an acceptable way to do so.

30 posted on 03/31/2005 4:44:46 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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Anyone else would have pled to 20 years..


31 posted on 03/31/2005 4:44:47 PM PST by cardinal4 (George W Bush-Bringing a new democracy every term..)
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To: neverdem

Un-freaking-believable! A public slap on the wrist for the benefit of the ignorant public.

Berger should have been locked up in a federal prison (not a country club) for 20 years with no parole. And if he lived to complete his prison term, permanent restriction from all classified material.


33 posted on 03/31/2005 4:46:24 PM PST by DakotaGator
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To: neverdem

What....nothing about the socks?!?!?!


35 posted on 03/31/2005 4:49:17 PM PST by what's up
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To: Temple Owl

ping


36 posted on 03/31/2005 4:49:52 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: neverdem
A well-respected figure in foreign policy circles for many years, Mr. Berger has also agreed to pay a $10,000 fine

OPINION.

No self-respecting newspaper editor would EVER let this pass in a straight news story. But, then again, we're talking about The New York Times - not exactly known for their journalistic standards.

37 posted on 03/31/2005 4:50:08 PM PST by Libertarian444
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To: neverdem; MeekOneGOP; Alamo-Girl; Carl/NewsMax; bear11; risk; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub

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SANDY BERGER =

The CLINTONS' Communist China Washington, D.C. Lobbyist

The CLINTONS' NSA Advisor that helped them deny 3 Offers from the Sudan during the 1990's to give us OSAMA bin LADEN on a Silver Platter before this Terrorist Enemy could hit us hard on American Soil.

The CLINTONS' NSA Advisor that "Guarauntee'd" to the American People on NBC's 'Meet the Press' that the CLINTONS' allowing our Space Satellite launches in Communist China would "NEVER" result in the loss of our precious missile technology secrets to them, just before it did.

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.

.


41 posted on 03/31/2005 4:52:09 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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