(Fr.)Frank Pavone Discusses the Last Moments of Terri Schiavo

Fox News ^ | 3/31/05

[anniegetyourgun]

"This is a case of throwing away a disabled person."

Undeniable truth.

[conserv13]

Yes. We were in communication with them this morning by phone, and they were then on their way over here, actually, when we heard the news of Terri’s passing,

It had been rumored here that her husband did not allow Terri's parents to be in the room when she died. Turns out that was not true.

[Cicero]

It can't be said to often that Terri was killed. Not only was she deprived of the feeding tube, which is not considered an "extraordinary" measure to keep patients alive, but she was deprived of water when it has been well established that she is capable of swallowing.

It was not tested, because Michael Schiavo would not permit it, but most likely she could have been kept alive by feeding her with broths and other nourishing fluids, even without the feeding tube. And that ability to swallow could probably have been further developed if Michael Schiavo had not ordered that all rehabilitation must cease and that she should never be given anything to swallow.

[conservative cat]

Actually, I think it does look like he didn't want them in the room with him when he was there.

[TexasTaysor]

Turns out that was not true.
??? Where did you get that? True, her parents weren't even at the hospice yet, they were enroute, but he would not allow her brother and sister (her family) to be in the room at her death.....only afterwards

[Bones75]

A piece of paper cannot interpret itself. People can begin arguing over what a piece of paper says, just as they can argue over what people said to them verbally. The best thing is to have a living person who knows you, whom you trust, whom you’ve discussed these issues with, and who then, when you are in medical circumstances in which you cannot speak for yourself, that person can get, from the doctors, the exact details of what can be done for you, and then in consultation with the clergy of their choice, make the proper decision at those moments.

Apparently, that's exactly what happened here, Father, with all due respect.

Bones

[american colleen]

It had been rumored here that her husband did not allow Terri's parents to be in the room when she died. Turns out that was not true.

>>>“I will be glad to be in her room, even with Michael there. I want to be there.” And Michael was saying, “No. I don’t want that.” But then she died before that conflict when any further. <<<

The family (brother and sister) were not allowed in the room when Terri died, they had been asked to leave ten minutes earlier by Micheal Schiavo (through an intermediary of course). The parents were on there way over to the hospice but they did not make it in time.

A sad situation.

[conserv13]

That is a very sad situation for all involved.

[ptlurking]

Father Pavone is the best spokesman I have seen so far regarding this case. He was on the Today show yesterday before Terri's passing and was most convincing.

I noticed this morning the Today show only had Michael Schiavo's attorney on. He said Terri's brother had to be restrained by police. There was no rebuttal guest from the Schindler family.

I wish the Today show would have asked Father Pavone as a rebuttal guest to that weasel lawyer.

[TXBubba]

I noticed this morning the Today show only had Michael Schiavo's attorney on. He said Terri's brother had to be restrained by police.

How dare that nasty brother want to be at his sister's bedside when she died! Call the police! Call the police! sarcasm

[diamond6]

I've posted this on a couple other threads:

Who Will Remember Terri?
By JAMES TARANTO
April 1, 2005; Page A10


"Joe Ford, a Harvard undergraduate with severe cerebral palsy: "Like many others with disabilities, I believe that the American public, to one degree or another, holds that disabled people are better off dead. To put it in a simpler way, many Americans are bigots. A close examination of the facts of the Schiavo case reveals not a case of difficult decisions but a basic test of this country's decency."

[GOP_Proud]

< It had been rumored here that her husband did not allow Terri's parents to be in the room when she died. Turns out that was not true. >

Only because they had not arrived in time. He refused the brother. I think we can make a pretty good determination that he would have said no had they been at the hospice. If he wasn't a POS before her death, he is now, just because of that. What kind of trash refuses a brother the opportunuty to be at the bedside of his sister at death? MS is just a big POS.

[syriacus]

a healthcare proxy--namely, a person who can speak for you, if you are in a situation where you can’t speak for yourself--is much better than having a piece of paper

I agree.

I don't think judges and doctors can be relied upon to understand and follow your written orders.

Choose an agent to speak for you in the case that you are incapacitated. (You can draw up an ordered list of people to speak for you).

[Marysecretary]

but, but, he had an AGENDA! He was promoting LIFE!

[GOP_Proud]

< Father Pavone is the best spokesman I have seen so far regarding this case. >

Agreed. I saw the exchange reprinted above. The Schindler's should keep him as a spokesman for awhile. He is very articulate without being extreme.

[HarleyLady27]

I think this 'husband' is so cunning he has well scripted the whole thing, as it was reported last night on Hannity and Colmbs, he stayed at the hospice center since her feeding tube was pulled out; he was there everytime her mother and father and family came to visit her 'at their time' and had to wait for him to leave the room; and he had it planned to be there 'when his loving wife died'; he's a jerk and if he isn't fooling anyone but himself and that attorney of his is a death attorney, he's nuttier than Michael!

[massgopguy]

Felos made it sound as if Terri's mother had abandoned her. He is scum.

[Salvation]

BTTT!

[lugsoul]

Why are you trying to confuse the issue with facts? Everyone knows that if they were there, he wouldn't have let them in - so that's the same thing as if they were trying to get in and he refused, right?