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Four pivotal moments in the case [Schiavo]
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 3/31/05

Posted on 04/01/2005 9:34:51 AM PST by freespirited

The collapse: Feb. 25, 1990

The whole family crowded into the emergency room at Humana Northside Hospital. Friends from work were pouring in, too. What had happened to Terri?

Michael Schiavo said he had come home that night after working at Agostino's, a restaurant in Feather Sound that he managed. Terri woke up, he said, and gave him a kiss good night.

About 5:30 a.m., Michael heard a thud. He said he got out of bed. On the floor, he saw his wife, 26, face down.

"Terri. Terri. You okay?" he said.

He heard a gurgling sound.

He called 911 and then Terri's brother, Bobby, who also lived at the Thunder Bay Apartments on Fourth Street N.

Michael knew CPR, but he said later he panicked. Paramedics arrived at apartment 2210 and began working on her.

Terri's heart was not beating. Michael could see she wasn't responding.

He heard paramedics say, "she is a flat line."

The split: Feb. 14, 1993

The million-dollar verdict was supposed to help Terri's family heal, but it tore them apart.

The break happened at Terri's bedside in the Sabal Palms nursing home.

That day, Bob Schindler said, he asked about money Michael Schiavo promised to repay him.

According to Bob Schindler, Schiavo said, "Forget the money."

He said Schiavo threw some books and pushed a table. They nearly came to blows.

Schiavo agrees that Schindler asked how much money he would get. Schiavo said none. He said he had given the money to Terri, which he later acknowledged was a lie.

"How much money is she going to give me?" Schindler said, pointing to his daughter.

Schindler stormed outside, his fist clenched, Schiavo said. He warned he would get a lawyer.

Headline: The trial: Jan. 24, 2000

The trial to determine Terri Schiavo's last wishes lasted five days in a small, dark courtroom in Clearwater. Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge George Greer presided. He heard from 18 witnesses, reviewed Schiavo's CAT scan and watched a videotape of her. He filled 11/2 legal pads with notes.

Doctors testified about Schiavo's condition. A Roman Catholic priest testified about the church's position on the right to die. Schiavo's parents, sister, brother and husband testified.

Scott Schiavo, Michael's brother, recalled what his sister-in-law said when the brothers' grandmother died after being kept alive on a machine: "If I ever go like that, just let me go. Don't leave me there. I don't want to be kept alive on a machine."

"This has been an extremely difficult case," Greer said at the end. "Probably the most difficult case I have presided over in my term on the bench."

Fifteen days later, he entered his order, signed at 11:50 a.m. Feb. 11, 2000: "Petitioner/Guardian is hereby authorized to proceed with the discontinuance of said artificial life support for Theresa Marie Schiavo."

Tube removed: March 18, 2005

Michael Schiavo could not watch, his family said. He was too heartbroken, too emotionally wrecked to see it. He waited outside her room at Hospice House Woodside as a doctor removed Terri's feeding tube. The doctor closed the wound about 1:45 p.m.

Then, Michael entered, waited at his wife's bedside and wept.

Terri's parents and a priest had visited her earlier in the day. They talked to Terri about her upcoming trip to Washington, D.C., to testify before Congress, which had subpoenaed her in an attempt to keep the feeding tube in.

They were speaking to her about life, but knew they had to prepare her for death. They asked Monsignor Thaddeus Malanowski to perform the Catholic rites for the dying. He sprinkled her with holy water.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allterriallthetime; enoughalready; notthisagain; schiavo; schiavorepublic; schindlers; terri; terrischiavo
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The pivotal moment was the selection of a judge whose notion of "clear and convincing evidence" defies any reasonable definition of that term.
1 posted on 04/01/2005 9:34:56 AM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited
The pivotal moment was the selection of a judge whose notion of "clear and convincing evidence" defies any reasonable definition of that term.

Dittos.
2 posted on 04/01/2005 9:40:48 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: freespirited

The judge relied on people, not even related to Terri by blood to define her last wishes. It was wrong, and not even her parents had any say at all. Liars ruled the day.


3 posted on 04/01/2005 9:42:51 AM PST by tessalu
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To: freespirited

This is the first I heard he knew CPR and didn't use it. No, No, he loves his wife and forgot he knew it. Yea, that's it.


4 posted on 04/01/2005 9:43:28 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: freespirited

Terri: "Do you expect me to talk?"

Florida Judgenfuhrers: " No. We have been paid money and now expect you to die."

Official flag of Pinella county, Florida - The State of Judicial Torture by Starvation

5 posted on 04/01/2005 9:45:11 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: freespirited
He said he had given the money to Terri, which he later acknowledged was a lie. As usual, leftist papers wait till after the horse is out before they close the barn door. This is the first I heard of this.
6 posted on 04/01/2005 9:45:41 AM PST by grassboots.org (I'll Say It Again - The first freedom is life.)
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To: freespirited
Other pivotal moments:

When Michael Schiavo hired the ghoul Felos (1997) and suddenly "remembered" what Terri's "wishes" were.

When Felos gave to Judge Greer's election campaign.

When Judge Greer had an evidentiary hearing and exluded evidence that contradicted the Schiavo/Felos lies.

7 posted on 04/01/2005 9:48:36 AM PST by drpix
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To: freespirited
The million-dollar verdict was supposed to help Terri's family heal, but it tore them apart.

Having been a conservator and trustee for friends, strangers and relation, I believe this is the moment things went from bad to impossible.

9 posted on 04/01/2005 9:51:10 AM PST by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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To: freespirited

I'd like to know who provided the 'facts' for this article.


10 posted on 04/01/2005 9:51:36 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: freespirited
"The pivotal moment was the selection of a judge whose notion of "clear and convincing evidence" defies any reasonable definition of that term."

Indeed. Terri was sentenced to death based on hearsay.

11 posted on 04/01/2005 9:52:21 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: freespirited
"Headline: The trial: Jan. 24, 2000 "

Wow. Just 3 months after Felos and the Woodside Gang got the Florida legislature and an unwitting Jeb Bush to sign into to law changes making starvation of a PVS-diagnosed person (read "Terri Schiavo") to be legal.

And to think these pathetic acivist lawyers and black-robed boobs complain that "you can't have a law designed to affect one person." Where were they 5 1/2 years ago? Sick hypocrites.

13 posted on 04/01/2005 9:52:40 AM PST by cookcounty (If a serial bigamist takes 7 common-law wives, can he legally starve all of them to death or only 6?)
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To: freespirited
He called 911 and then Terri's brother, Bobby, who also lived at the Thunder Bay Apartments on Fourth Street N.

He called Terri's father before he called 911.

14 posted on 04/01/2005 9:53:41 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: DustyMoment

Ditto to the dittos.


15 posted on 04/01/2005 9:54:53 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: drpix

"Michael Schiavo hired the ghoul Felos (1997) and suddenly "remembered" what Terri's "wishes" were"

I had thought the two things were inter-related, but didn't comment on it because I didn't know this for a fact. It's no great leap to make tho.


16 posted on 04/01/2005 9:57:02 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: freespirited
>>>>The pivotal moment was the selection of a judge whose notion of "clear and convincing evidence" defies any reasonable definition of that term.<<<<

YES!!
So true.

Also, the Schindlers were out spent . MS had a few hundred thousand to spend on attorneys and medical experts. The kind who fly around the country testifying in these kind of cases.
They are called "hired medical gins". Defense attorneys use them all of the time. They will always find a medical examiner or a doctor to say what needs to be said....FOR THE RIGHT PRICE or in this case the right AGENDA.
17 posted on 04/01/2005 9:57:20 AM PST by snarkytart (You're Gutless. You're Undressed.)
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To: evilthatmendo; All
Felos didn't get "...several thousand dollars of terri's therapy money...". By their own admission it was $350 thousand.

Growing up I was always told "lies have a price." I guess big lies have a big price!

18 posted on 04/01/2005 9:59:32 AM PST by drpix
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To: evilthatmendo

It was just the money. I have seen families get upset because they thought too much money was being spent on therapy.


20 posted on 04/01/2005 10:01:34 AM PST by elbucko (A Feral Republican)
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