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Mahony Flies To Rome For Solemnities, Conclave (Cardinal from Los Angeles to Visit Vatican)
Los Angeles Times ^ | April 2, 2005 | K. Connie Kang

Posted on 04/01/2005 11:30:10 PM PST by bd476

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To: onyx

The MSNBC people were quick to say "let's not read into it" but she also said she wasn't accustomed to hearing the bells at the bottom of the hour...


61 posted on 04/02/2005 12:39:32 AM PST by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: Mo1
Thanks, Mo1!

CBS News reports an update is expected from the Vatican in about an hour - posted over here:

Update: Vatican says "very grave condition" 'Serious' Pope has heart failure Post 902

62 posted on 04/02/2005 12:40:27 AM PST by bd476
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Who won't be in Sistine Chapel this time?
You mean the cardinals when they sleep?
I know they'll be staying at St Martha's... the suites that JPI had built to accomodate them.


63 posted on 04/02/2005 12:42:37 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Petronski

Right.
We have almost an hour before the news "briefing."


64 posted on 04/02/2005 12:43:12 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: cyborg

It's a sort of luke-warm, protestantized version of Catholicism. It's hard to define. Think of horrible architecture in new churches, and liturgical dance, and dumbed-down liturgies with less kneeling (or no kneelers at all). Think of Rembert Weakland and his ilk going around tearing out communion rails and 'modernizing' churches by moving the sanctuary to a prayer room and discouraging or cancelling Adoration of the Blessed Sacrement and the Stations, think of gender-neutral translations of the bible readings.

Tiny abuses nibbling at the edges until the 'universal' church is not recognizable at all.


65 posted on 04/02/2005 12:44:49 AM PST by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: bd476

Thank you for the ping bd476


66 posted on 04/02/2005 12:45:18 AM PST by Mo1
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To: Lauren BaRecall; bd476


We don't eat meat on Friday's here either,
and I rarely go to Mass without my lace scarf.
I love tradition.


67 posted on 04/02/2005 12:45:52 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: onyx

Nothing on regular TV (I don't have cable). On radio: an update (Vatican) due at 4:30AM EST.


68 posted on 04/02/2005 12:46:17 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Jeb Bush, 3/25/05: "Ooooooh, everybody just stop *expecting* anything from me. Ok?")
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To: NYer
CBS News reports an update is expected from the Vatican in about an hour posted here:

Waiting for update from Vatican

69 posted on 04/02/2005 12:46:41 AM PST by bd476
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To: onyx

I don't think they'll even vote there (Sistine Chapel). Yes, the new facilities.


70 posted on 04/02/2005 12:47:46 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Jeb Bush, 3/25/05: "Ooooooh, everybody just stop *expecting* anything from me. Ok?")
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To: onyx

Onyx, I found some of my Mother's old cherished lace scarves in some of her things - brought back so many memories... goose bumps.


71 posted on 04/02/2005 12:48:14 AM PST by bd476
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To: Mo1

You're welcome Mo1. How're you doing?


72 posted on 04/02/2005 12:48:56 AM PST by bd476
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To: Lauren BaRecall

Oh, I have dish tv.
Vatican radio is GOOD.


73 posted on 04/02/2005 12:49:03 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: bd476


Oh, bd, that's wonderful.
Hold them close.
Wear them.
You have my sincere sympathy for the loss of your mom.


74 posted on 04/02/2005 12:50:11 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Petronski
I want someone to rebuke the AmChurch movement. I doubt it will happen, but it should be done.

I'd love to see that, but we wouldn't want an open schism. There's other ways to do it, such as not approving ICEL liturgical translations, etc.

75 posted on 04/02/2005 12:50:47 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Jeb Bush, 3/25/05: "Ooooooh, everybody just stop *expecting* anything from me. Ok?")
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To: onyx

You gave me an idea! I can try the live stream at EWTN. Thanks!


76 posted on 04/02/2005 12:51:53 AM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Jeb Bush, 3/25/05: "Ooooooh, everybody just stop *expecting* anything from me. Ok?")
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To: bd476

I had my confirmation with him.

One thing I can tell you is who ever the Pope will be, isn't going to be an American.


77 posted on 04/02/2005 12:51:55 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: onyx

Thank you Onyx. I probably shouldn't have brought personal loss into this thread, just thought of her and my Dad.


78 posted on 04/02/2005 12:56:04 AM PST by bd476
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To: kingu

Oh Kingu that is one of the nicest comments I have ever read. Thank you so much.


79 posted on 04/02/2005 12:57:40 AM PST by bd476
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To: Lauren BaRecall

LOL!
But, beware... I was told on another thread earlier today,
that EWTN parroted the mistaken news about the Pope's death.
I had rushed home at Noon and turned on EWTN and then posted I had done so for "accuracy." LOL. Boy,, did I get straightened out fast.


80 posted on 04/02/2005 12:58:06 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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