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Felos Stunned by Hemlock Link
rushlimbaugh.com ^ | 4/1/05 | rushlimbaugh.com

Posted on 04/02/2005 9:58:25 PM PST by paltz

CALLER: Hi, Rush!

RUSH: Hi.

CALLER: I just wanted to know if you happened to catch George Felos on Fox & Friends this morning.

RUSH: Yes.

CALLER: What did you think?

RUSH: Well, there's a number of things that we have from Felos. One of the things -- what did you want to ask me about regarding Felos?

CALLER: Well, when they got to the last question I thought he looked, like, totally stunned. I think he thought that he did really, really good throughout the whole thing looking real calm.

RUSH: For people that don't know, what was the question?

CALLER: About the Hemlock Society?

RUSH: What was the question? I want you to tell me.

CALLER: Oh, I'm sorry. They had asked him -- they had heard a lot of talk on the radio -- or on talk radio, and they wanted to know if he really and truly belonged to the Hemlock Society.

RUSH: Yeah, and he said that he didn't.

CALLER: You didn't think that he looked stunned?

RUSH: Well, I think he looked stunned. I think he looked stunned, but he was not -- from everything I've been able to gather, he was not -- a member of the Hemlock Society.

CALLER: Oh, he wasn't?

RUSH: He was not. Here's what we know about the Hemlock Society and the Felos bunch, and this comes from Judi McLeod from the Toronto Free Press, it's a website, and we had the story yesterday. "Dr. Ronald Cranford, handpicked by Michael Schiavo to examine Terri and on whose say-so Terri was categorized in 'persistent vegetative state.' Cranford is the MD who officially ordered Terri’s feeding tube removed on March 18.... He was 1992’s featured speaker for the pro-euthanasia Hemlock Society, which was renamed The Choice in Dying Society," but not Felos. However, they're all connected because all these people are -- well, except for one, all of them are -- board members of the hospice in Pinellas Park. But Felos himself was not a member of the Hemlock Society. We have the sound bite. I think he was stunned not by the question about his membership but just the whole idea that it had been discovered that everybody involved in this hospice, that all the board members have and Felos does, too -- do have connections to people who are part of the Hemlock Society. It was a pro-euthanasia group. The question from Steve Doocy was, "Talk radio has been buzzing about your connection to the Hemlock Society. Could you just make that clear for us?"

FELOS: I don't know what they're... Uhhh, I don't know what they're talking about. I've -- I've -- I've spoken, uhhh, I've spoken before the Hemlock, uh, Society and -- but I'm -- I'm -- I'm not a member. Ummm, I don't serve, uh, in that organization, so I -- I -- don't know what they're talking about.

RUSH: I think he was a little stunned that the whole concept of the Hemlock Society was brought up here. I think this is something they thought was pretty much unknown because the mainstream press wasn't talking about it, the mainstream press is not talking about these connections.


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KEYWORDS: choiceindyingsociety; cos; cultureofdeath; drinkupgeorge; felos; hemlocksociety; rush; schiavo; wakeuprush; youfirst
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1 posted on 04/02/2005 9:58:25 PM PST by paltz
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To: Brad's Gramma; Pegita; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida; tutstar; Pepper777; nicmarlo; ...

Hemlock ping.


2 posted on 04/02/2005 10:07:11 PM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE .... PRAY FOR TERRI AND HER FAMILY. 'WHERE THERE'S LIFE THERE'S HOPE!")
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To: paltz
If Felos is ever on another call-in Q&A, ask him if he's reached an OT VIII Level yet and if so, what special powers does he now possess?

Seriously. He'll turn whiter than Robert Byrd's sheet.
3 posted on 04/02/2005 10:09:56 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: STARWISE

Ummm, I'm, I'm, ummmm....I'm well, uhhhhh....bttt!!!


4 posted on 04/02/2005 10:10:53 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: Brad's Gramma

No ... HEm ... aHEm .. Heh ..Heh... LOL.


5 posted on 04/02/2005 10:12:34 PM PST by STARWISE (PLEASE .... PRAY FOR TERRI AND HER FAMILY. 'WHERE THERE'S LIFE THERE'S HOPE!")
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

He's a scientologist? Tell him Xenu's after him.


6 posted on 04/02/2005 10:13:55 PM PST by Lx (The Sacramento Bee is giving Pravda a run for its money...)
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To: paltz

Sorry, I saw the interview and I think he's a weasel, but he came across as sincerely not understanding the reference. Not stunned, but innocent.


7 posted on 04/02/2005 10:18:34 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: STARWISE
Man, when I was still in high school, IIRC, I heard about the " hemlock society". Even then, they were pushing for the "right to die" cause.

That was over 20 years ago. what was then just a fringe, is now starting to gain public acceptance. sad, isn't it?
8 posted on 04/02/2005 10:19:31 PM PST by Rca2000 (America, oh America, I MISS YOU!!!!!)
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To: STARWISE
Felos is a Ghoul, after watching him for a few weeks and reading about him, this is a man who is deranged. He comes off as someone who is obsessed with the death process and has absolutely no regard for the right to life. When he described the scene in Terri's room after a few days of her dehydration, he considered her suffering as "Beauty upon her"

The man is a Ghoul

9 posted on 04/02/2005 10:21:38 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats are the party for the death of the innocent and life for the wicked)
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To: MJY1288

I'll not argue that at all!

BTW...what the heck IS Scientology about, anyway. Anyone?


10 posted on 04/02/2005 10:23:49 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: paltz

Judge Greer will just rule that no reporter can ask Felos about the Hemlock Society ever again.


11 posted on 04/02/2005 10:24:47 PM PST by inkling
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To: Lx
He's a scientologist?

I'd bet my life on it.

Tell Xenu, he's not alone. The Hubbardians are about to feel the internet's wrath...

12 posted on 04/02/2005 10:26:08 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: Brad's Gramma
what the heck IS Scientology about

It seems to be a positivist approach to religion. Kind of a Vienna Circle meets mysticism.

13 posted on 04/02/2005 10:31:00 PM PST by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: Fenris6
Sorry, I saw the interview and I think he's a weasel, but he came across as sincerely not understanding the reference. Not stunned, but innocent.

BWAHwwwwwhahah

14 posted on 04/02/2005 10:31:23 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: paltz

Look what crawled from under a rock!


15 posted on 04/02/2005 10:32:26 PM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: Brad's Gramma
what the heck IS Scientology about, anyway.

It's the new communism... it's the new nazism....

It's the promise of a perfect society... free of cripples, retards, half-wits and fat girls. It's westernized, totalitarian self-help. But masquerading as religion as to enjoy the constitutional protections that come along with that designation.

It's the most ambitious, dangerous cult in America. Maybe the world. In light of the past two weeks, I'd say it's a more clear and present danger to our way of life than Islam.

If you believe Satan was behind the Third Reich, well... Satan's learned from past mistakes. Scientology is the Fourth Reich.

And no, I'm not exaggerating.

16 posted on 04/02/2005 10:33:42 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: Brad's Gramma

try lisamcphearson.org for starters. Hope I spelled that right.

Their headquarters are located in Pinellas County.
They are the brainchild of L. Ron Hubbard.

Prepare to be appalled. Basically, they are a cult claiming to be a church. Their tentacles appear to be quite long.

Their pawprints are all over this whole mess. I've only been researching them for a couple of days. Thanks to the links from FReeper Diogenesis, among others.


17 posted on 04/02/2005 10:36:50 PM PST by planekT
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To: Brad's Gramma

Money.

L. Ron did it for the money and notariety, period.

Like everything else in his "official" history, it is a fraud.

BTW, anyone know who won the Elron award last year? It is (or used to be anyway) handed out at the World Science Fiction Convention to the SF/F writer most deserving of the term "hack". Guess who it was named for.


18 posted on 04/02/2005 10:39:39 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Only those without honor eat dead food, rather than making every meal a fight!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Carl Sagan wrote that L. Ron Hubbard, an athiest and a bad science fiction pulp writer - told him that Jesus didn't do anything so great - and that he (Hubbard) could invent a religion that was more successful than Christianity. Evidently, scientology grew out of that bet.

BTW, I am a fan of good science fiction, and have only read 4 or 5 of the Hubbard books that were given to me - I wouldn't even buy them at a used book store - and his books are not good science fiction, not even decent scifi.


19 posted on 04/02/2005 10:39:52 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Do a Google Search on "Scientology" and be ready to be shocked.

John Travolta and many other Hollywood celebrities are card carrying members of the Church of Scientology

20 posted on 04/02/2005 10:40:57 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats are the party for the death of the innocent and life for the wicked)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I believe that Newt am one...


21 posted on 04/02/2005 10:41:36 PM PST by Spirited (God, Bless America)
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To: Rca2000

The Hemlock Soc. is *alive* and well, here in Oregon.


22 posted on 04/02/2005 10:42:23 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: planekT
Their pawprints are all over this whole mess. I've only been researching them for a couple of days.

Keep digging... it gets better.

I have to say, the more I look into this cult's modus operandi, I'm left with a chilling sense of awe. This isn't just your run-of-the-mill whacko cult. This is pure genius, specifically designed to infiltrate and destroy America from within.

L. Ron Hubbard believed he was one with Satan. So do I. We're in for a hell of a fight with this one.

23 posted on 04/02/2005 10:43:18 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I'd say it's a more clear and present danger to our way of life than Islam.

You're whisling past something. I fear not Tom Cruise, but I do think Islam is a threat.

24 posted on 04/02/2005 10:43:57 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: Rca2000

What is so sad about a person terminally ill having some say about how and when they will check out?


25 posted on 04/02/2005 10:44:06 PM PST by jess35
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To: MJY1288
Do a Google Search on "Scientology"

I know I can do that....but don't even want to give the devil that much room, if y'all know what I mean. So, in a nutshell, as with all cults....man is the god and God is .... nothing.

26 posted on 04/02/2005 10:44:48 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: Spirited

NEWT???????? Are you kidding? Oh man....


27 posted on 04/02/2005 10:45:17 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (aitch tee tee pea colon 2 slashes dubya dubya dubya dot proud patriots dot org)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
The things one learns here on FR. It sure is nice to be in such knowledgeable company.

I knew Scientology was bad, more of a cult than a religion, BUT-- I did not think it was that screwed up. I did not know L Ron Hubbard("dianetics"), was so sold out to Satan.
28 posted on 04/02/2005 10:47:02 PM PST by Rca2000 (America, oh America, I MISS YOU!!!!!)
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To: Spirited

Are you sure? I know he's a Futurist, but that's way different.


29 posted on 04/02/2005 10:47:58 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Fenris6
Sorry, I saw the interview and I think he's a weasel, but he came across as sincerely not understanding the reference.

You mean the part where he said he had spoken before the Hemlock Society, but wasn't a member? THAT was sincerely not understanding the reference??????
30 posted on 04/02/2005 10:48:42 PM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: TheOtherOne

Fear not Tom Cruise. Fear the countless masses who assign him instant credibility for pretending to be important on the silver screen. That's his function within the movement... that and his money (which is being used to buy America by the county).

You're seriously underestimating this cult. They just stood up to the Governor of Florida, the Congress and the President of the United States. And they didn't flinch. And they got away with outright barbarism in front of the eyes of the world... with overwhelming support from the American public.

I used to dismiss them as a whacko celebrity cult, too. Not anymore. They're a force that is going to have to be confronted.


31 posted on 04/02/2005 10:52:27 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I will. You guys are way out in front on this, and that's a good thing.


32 posted on 04/02/2005 10:53:08 PM PST by planekT
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To: beezdotcom
Hey, it could have been some OTHER Hemlock Society! Maybe it was an offshoot of Alfalfa's club: the Hemlock Woman-Haters club!

Hemlock Woman-Haters and Felos? And that song ain't so very far from wrong. . . .
33 posted on 04/02/2005 10:54:33 PM PST by Rastus
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Sickening feeling.... Russert's show tonite... something about fat guys... old has-been journalists commenting on the Terri Schiavo case and Congress, was sickening. They called her 'dead' and the Republicans trying to save her as ridiculous and that it will ruin them politically. I look at these fat a-holes and wonder how they could stuff their lying mouths and denounce Terri as already dead before the starvation took place! Sick...sick... sick...


34 posted on 04/02/2005 10:57:14 PM PST by antceecee
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To: jess35

Suicide is not legally sanctioned in the USA.


35 posted on 04/02/2005 10:58:01 PM PST by antceecee
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
They just stood up to the Governor of Florida, the Congress and the President of the United States. And they didn't flinch. And they got away with outright barbarism in front of the eyes of the world... with overwhelming support from the American public.

Why do you give them sole credit for this. There role is meaningless. With or without them, the issues are still present, and will be debated. I did not see their influence in the grand role that you do. While we do live in an odd cult of celebrity, I do not fear that. America is smarter than that - on most days

36 posted on 04/02/2005 10:59:44 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: jess35

If the person themself denies medical care (including a feeding tube) then that is moral.

If others have less-than-pure motives for denying care for a ward (and that's what we're talking about here) then that's immoral.


37 posted on 04/02/2005 11:02:45 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: Rastus
Hemlock Woman-Haters and Felos?

Sorry, you misspelled Feel-us. Hope that helps.
38 posted on 04/02/2005 11:03:07 PM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: TheOtherOne
There role is meaningless.

opps, bad spelling.

39 posted on 04/02/2005 11:04:07 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Ditto what you said, Scientology is something that needs to be exposed for what it is...... "Evil"

People who believe Communism has been defeated are fooling themselves. The ideology and teachings of Marx and Lennon are alive and well, they have simply placed a new facade on their storefront, and their methods of spreading propaganda among the lemmings who don't know the evil they're embracing is on display in groups like ANSWER, and MoveOn.org. They too will end up on the ash heap of history. Liberty is God's gift to all of us, and all those who have opposed that God given right to their people reside in that ash heap today. "This story goes on. And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm." George W. Bush 1/20/01

40 posted on 04/02/2005 11:05:15 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats are the party for the death of the innocent and life for the wicked)
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To: TWohlford
less-than-pure motives

Always hard to see someones else's true motives. That is for God to determine.

41 posted on 04/02/2005 11:05:44 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: Brad's Gramma

What is hemlock?


42 posted on 04/02/2005 11:06:03 PM PST by fatima (John Paul II We love you.Rest in peace dear Father.We will miss you.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

See Post #40


43 posted on 04/02/2005 11:07:11 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats are the party for the death of the innocent and life for the wicked)
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To: antceecee

It is not sanctioned?

My uncle's parkinson's disease progressed to a point where he couldn't swallow. His powers of speech and mobility were long-gone too. He made it clear that he didn't want the feeding tube, and equally clear that he understood the consequences. He was gone in a few days.

Was that suicide?


44 posted on 04/02/2005 11:08:06 PM PST by TWohlford
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To: paltz

And who do Hemlock Society people vote for and support ? demoRATS !


45 posted on 04/02/2005 11:10:27 PM PST by John Lenin (The constitution has been overthrown....... Isn't protecting the border in there ?)
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To: jess35
What is so sad about a person terminally ill having some say about how and when they will check out?

What methods of "checking out" are you talking about?

46 posted on 04/02/2005 11:10:39 PM PST by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: TWohlford

No.


47 posted on 04/02/2005 11:10:50 PM PST by fatima (John Paul II We love you.Rest in peace dear Father.We will miss you.)
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To: paltz

**the mainstream press is not talking about these connections.**

Well, they should be.


48 posted on 04/02/2005 11:10:53 PM PST by Salvation (ÜWith God all things are possible.Ü)
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To: TheOtherOne
Why do you give them sole credit for this.

Because they did it.

49 posted on 04/02/2005 11:10:55 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: TheOtherOne

" Always hard to see someones else's true motives. That is for God to determine."

Actually, the failure here was in the court's inability to determine the motives. IN fact, very few effective mechanisms are available at any level to check such motives.


50 posted on 04/02/2005 11:11:04 PM PST by TWohlford
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