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To: nuconvert

C'mon people.

The whole thing has been a tragedy. A terrible tragedy, but we have to go back and study our Constitution here. The whole point of that great document is to balance the three three branches of government. Judges aren't supposed to do the will of the people, they are supposed to uphold the constitution first, and lesser law second. A judge may rule badly, but to talk about the judicial branch as Mullahs? What are you thinking? Do you care about this country and this government of ours or do you just want it like it is in the movies? For 15 years judges have looked at this case carefully. Democrats and Republicans. Do we stampede over States Rights because we don't like this case? Do we Ignore the sanctity of Marriage because we heard that the Husband might have conflicts of interest? This. is. a. tragedy. It happens every DAY in this country but there are no cameras to record it. If we wanted to save everyone (and I do)... we will find we do not have the money to do it. My heart goes out to baby Star, the little girl who was taken off life support recently...OVER THE OBJECTIONS OF HER ENTIRE FAMILY. They did not have health insurance. This tragedy is part of life. We must let Terri Schiavo go.


26 posted on 04/04/2005 6:06:10 AM PDT by potato
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To: potato

"What are you thinking?"

I guess we're thinking that judges are out of control.
You seem to think that everything is hunky-dory.

"Do we Ignore the sanctity of Marriage because we heard that the Husband might have conflicts of interest?"

Ummm...HE ignored the sanctity of his own marriage. So, YES, the courts need to make some changes when there's a "conflict of interest" with the guardian or a conflict of interest with the Judge and Drs, for that matter.

There's no comparison to the baby Star case and this.
And I'd like you to prove that Terri's situation "happens every DAY in this country". I think that's a line of bs.

Money? Are you trying to argue that Terri's parents didn't have enough to continue caring for her? So, if they could prove that they had enough money, would that change your mind?

And just where does the starvation/dehyration angle of this fit into your "reasoning"?

""in his omniscience, Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer has ruled that Terri was a non-person kept alive with a feeding tube, and that, if she could communicate, she’d say: “Oh, please kill me. How I long for the excruciating experience of being starved to death over two weeks.” "



29 posted on 04/04/2005 6:36:19 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: potato

I'm sorry but I am not willing to "let Terry Schiavo go".

For too long we have looked the other way. If we continue down the path you suggest, soon someone like you will be telling us that we must be willing to "let America go."

Where do we draw the line? I say we must stop this trend of falling down all over ourselves because some Judge somewhere ruled something stupid. We all snicker -- but if we are not careful, the snicker is going to turn into a ROAR.


32 posted on 04/04/2005 6:46:21 AM PDT by i_dont_chat
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To: potato

Are you aware that people in countries where euthanasia is practiced and accepted, think that what the court ORDERED is barbaric?

Don't you at least see that there's something wrong with ORDERING her not to receive food & water ?

Diogenesis is right.....This is "Not a tragedy. It is an atrocity."


36 posted on 04/04/2005 7:09:02 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: potato
I've been here since 1997. I know how the judiciary works, and I know how the Left and the media (but I repeat myself...) use the judiciary to further their agenda.

Do you know how many federal judges there are? And do you know the phrase that the AP begins most of its black-robed clown alerts with?

Ann Coulter has it right: "Polls claim that a majority of Americans objected to action by the U.S. Congress in the Schiavo case as "government intrusion" into a "private family matter" – as if Judge Greer is not also the government. So twisted is our view of the judiciary that a judicial decree is treated like a naturally occurring phenomenon, like a rainbow or an act of God."

48 posted on 04/04/2005 9:33:58 AM PDT by an amused spectator (If Social Security isn't broken, then cut me a check for the cash I have into it.)
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To: potato
For 15 years judges have looked at this case carefully.

No, they never once reviewed the evidence. They refused. They thumbed their noses at the law that entitled Terri to an evidentiary review (a de novo hearing.)

Do we stampede over States Rights because we don't like this case?

States' Rights do include the right to violate citizens' rights. Slavery is an example of that limitation. So is murder. Terri's rights were violated on many levels, culminating in her murder. That is not a State's Right.

Do we Ignore the sanctity of Marriage because we heard that the Husband might have conflicts of interest?

Please don't redefine "sanctity of marriage." Adultery resulting in two bastards is not sanctity of marriage. Murdering your spouse is not sanctity of marriage. Abusing your spouse, stealing from your spouse, and dehumanizing your spouse is not sanctity of marriage. A marriage license is not a bill of sale.

It happens every DAY in this country but there are no cameras to record it.

It used to happen every day in Germany. Sometimes, there were cameras.

.
Richard Jenne, killed at Kaufbeuren-Irsee euthanasia facility

They did not have health insurance. This tragedy is part of life.


"This person suffering from hereditary
defects costs the people 60,000
Reichmarks during his lifetime. People,
that is your money. Read 'New People'."

57 posted on 04/04/2005 1:05:13 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler - http://www.terrisfight.org)
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