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Man killed for saying hello
Evening Standard ^ | April 4, 2005 | Rob Singh

Posted on 04/04/2005 10:16:05 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A man was battered to death for simply saying "how are you" to a fellow customer at a shop counter. Witnesses told today that as Daniel Pater, 29, lay dying from his injuries, his killer stole his watch off his wrist and walked off. Two of Mr Pater's flatmates tried to help him but could not stop the stranger's punches.

(Excerpt) Read more at thisislondon.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bang; england; hello; murder; pater
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

The Culture of Death


21 posted on 04/04/2005 10:31:53 AM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: new cruelty
Hello Kitty.

Goodbye Kitty.

22 posted on 04/04/2005 10:32:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: beezdotcom
>I don't think I'm gonna have to wait long to read the headline "MAN KILLED FOR POSTING ON FR." It'll either be a MinuteMan thread or a Schiavo thread ...

Q: How many corpses
of Terry Schiavo does
it take to change a

light bulb? A: A million
and one! One to change the bulb,
and a million to

machine gun down all
the Nazis who want to keep
the world living in

eternal darkness!
(There you go, that's my Terri
Schiavo's corpse joke.)

23 posted on 04/04/2005 10:32:53 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Until it's your brother/son etc.

Are you kiddin'???

It's ONLY funny if it's your brother / son / etc.

24 posted on 04/04/2005 10:33:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: AppyPappy

Luckily the victim's flatmates didn't have guns -- they could have killed the murderer! < /sarcasm>


25 posted on 04/04/2005 10:35:08 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: diamond6
"The Culture of Death"

The culture of immigration.

30 years ago this would have been headline news.

Nowadays it would barely make the back page.

"Mr Singh-Madhang said: "Daniel just said 'hello' to this guy and he turned on him. Daniel could not do anything. The other guy was huge - about 6ft 7ins. Even when he saw how much damage was done, he just took Daniel's watch, put it in his pocket and walked out of the shop."

26 posted on 04/04/2005 10:37:06 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: wideawake

The current culture and laws in Britain breed passivity. In fact, if the victim resists, that use of force will be evaluated to see if the victim should be charged.


27 posted on 04/04/2005 10:37:33 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: wideawake
I find it hard to believe that there was nothing near at hand in a convenience store that could have at least been used to put the attacker's lights out while his back was turned.

He should have been with his girlfriend. Most women carry a large battering object over their shoulder called a purse. It is odd that there was nothing near to smack the guy a good one.

28 posted on 04/04/2005 10:38:04 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Yes, those sweet peaceful "travellers" again
29 posted on 04/04/2005 10:38:24 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Lazamataz
"Are you kiddin'??? It's ONLY funny if it's your brother / son / etc."

HAHAHAHAHA.........

Hardly.

I like you very much Laz, but today i'll pass.

30 posted on 04/04/2005 10:40:58 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Dang! Well at least he won't be accused of being menopausal or PMSing.
31 posted on 04/04/2005 10:41:43 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Life is always the Right choice)
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To: Lazamataz

Hold still, kitty.

32 posted on 04/04/2005 10:41:50 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: armymarinemom
It is odd that there was nothing near to smack the guy a good one.

I'm sure there was, but using something would have made that "something" a weapon - which is illegal in Britain.

33 posted on 04/04/2005 10:43:38 AM PDT by Ignatz (Some days it's not worth arguing with the voices in my head.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Hmmm. I remember the episode in which the bank offered $50 if they didn't say hello, and Kramer went in and the teller said "Hey" so Kramer tried to collect the $50. The bank didn't want to pay off and all sorts of comedy ensued. As I recall it ended with the manager opening his wallet pulling out a bill, saying "you got a greeting, it started with an 'H', how about $20", Kramer snatches the bill "done!" and saunters out in that inimitable Kramer style.


34 posted on 04/04/2005 10:43:48 AM PDT by johnb838 (Blessed Are The Dead, Who Die In The Lord, For They Rest From Their Labors.)
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To: theFIRMbss
(There you go, that's my Terri Schiavo's corpse joke.)

The best part about that joke is it can be used to offend both sides of the argument.

Of course, if you really wanted to get EVERYBODY roiled, you should have made a joke like "How many illegal aliens does it take to remove a feeding tube?" or something like that...
35 posted on 04/04/2005 10:44:11 AM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

It would be an interesting poll to ask people in the UK if gun control has made them safer.


36 posted on 04/04/2005 10:44:55 AM PDT by Spok
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To: wideawake
There have been cases when a single punch was fatal. Are there any more details to this story?
37 posted on 04/04/2005 10:48:11 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: beezdotcom
Of course, if you really wanted to get EVERYBODY roiled, you should have made a joke like "How many illegal aliens does it take to remove a feeding tube?" or something like that...

How many illegal aliens does it take to remove the Pope's feeding tube.

38 posted on 04/04/2005 10:48:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
No, you are not allowed to pass.

You must be offended.

39 posted on 04/04/2005 10:49:32 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
The linked article says that his friends tried to help but they couldn't stop the beating.

Somebody starts wailing on my friend like that in a convenience store, he's getting a large bottle of cheap wine to the back of the head.

40 posted on 04/04/2005 10:51:42 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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