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Litany of the Saints (the Music for the Pope you Heard Today)

Posted on 04/04/2005 8:24:15 PM PDT by FoxPro

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To: nutmeg; sandyeggo
Thanks for the ping nutmeg as there are some valuable links that I hope to explore when time permits. I spent the better part of an hour listening to hymns we sang in Chorus and was surprised that after all these years I could still remember the Latin verses.

.... and then just sat and watched, and because I was alone, all the grief I have had to suppress these last days as I went about my daily duties just came pouring out.

That pretty much sums up my reaction as well, although when I heard he was near death I found myself standing in a puddle. I so enjoy hearing peoples' recollection of his great man, especially his Jewish conductor (Levine?) whose stories moved Larry King beyond words last night.

61 posted on 04/05/2005 7:38:11 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: sandyeggo
Wasn't that chant just beautiful? Did you hear the slow and mournful hallelujah chant on Sunday morning in Rome? It was the processional song, it woke me up out of a dead sleep at 4 in the morning and it was so majestically sad.

Oh how I miss the Holy Father!
62 posted on 04/05/2005 7:43:07 AM PDT by CincinnatiKid (Go Thou, GO thou, thy hence and of this world report you will and truly... Jack Kerouac)
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To: radiohead; american colleen; jrny; Siobhan; sinkspur; NYer; sandyeggo; saradippity; Salvation; ...
I couldn't imagine being one of all those older men walking down so many stairs; gave me the shivers just thinking about it! And the pallbearers were just wonderful. It was something to see.

When I noticed the pallbearers, they looked like...pallbearers. Very sharply dressed, but appeared "modern."

But does anyone know why they were not dressed in some type of vestments?

Ans were the pallbearers even part of the clergy?

Interesting tradition, all the way.

63 posted on 04/05/2005 7:43:34 AM PDT by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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To: kstewskis
But does anyone know why they were not dressed in some type of vestments?

Dunno, I was thinking the same thing. It was fine and they were dressed appropriately and certainly conducted themselves perfectly but the 'street' clothes were surprising, I would have thought the guards would have borne his body into the basilica. I'm sure there must be a tradition behind this! Nothing is off the cuff!

64 posted on 04/05/2005 7:49:20 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: potlatch
They sound as they must have sounded in Medieval times.

Actually, they sounded just like they sounded up until 1963.

That was when the Philistines took over the Church, started letting you eat meat on Fridays, changed the language to the vernacular and hired some guy to rewrite all the music so that every song sounded like "Come to Jesus" in whole notes.

65 posted on 04/05/2005 7:52:47 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: american colleen; NYer; sandyeggo; saradippity; Salvation; Siobhan; Romulus; Askel5; ...

Perhaps this is God's way of bringing Latin and Gregorian Chant back into the liturgy. Their beauty is unquestionable and helps to lift hearts and minds to God. At the very least, one can hope those who are not familiar with Latin and chant will become curious about them.


67 posted on 04/05/2005 8:02:10 AM PDT by ELS
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To: american colleen

What is the Magisterium? And are talking about Mother Angelica?


68 posted on 04/05/2005 8:02:55 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CincinnatiKid; sandyeggo; american colleen
Wasn't that chant just beautiful? Did you hear the slow and mournful hallelujah chant on Sunday morning in Rome? It was the processional song, it woke me up out of a dead sleep at 4 in the morning and it was so majestically sad.

Given the reverance of this wake and funeral, with the glorious strains of a choir singing 'Salve Regina' from somewhere in the Basilica, how out of place the contemporary music would have sounded.

I plan to set the alarm clock and watch the funeral at 4am on Friday.

71 posted on 04/05/2005 8:10:53 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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To: Ann Archy
Magisterium (Lat. magister, a master):

The Church's divinely appointed authority to teach the truths of religion,
"Going therefore, teach ye all nations... teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you" (Matt. xxviii, 19-20). This teaching is infallible: "And behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world" (ibid.).

The solemn magisterium is that which is exercised only rarely by formal and authentic definitions of councils or popes. Its matter comprises dogmatic definitions of æcumenical councils or of the popes teaching ex cathedra, or of particular councils, if their decrees are universally accepted or approved in solemn form by the pope; also creeds and professions of faith put forward or solemnly approved by pope or æcumenical council. The ordinary magisterium is continually exercised by the Church especially in her universal practices connected with faith and morals, in the unanimous consent of the Fathers (q.v.) and theologians, in the decisions of Roman Congregations concerning faith and morals, in the common sense (q.v.) of the faithful, and various historical documents in which the faith is declared. All these are founts of a teaching which as a whole is infallible. They have to be studied separately to determine how far and in what conditions each of them is an infallible source of truth.

Yes, I was talking about Mother Angelica.

72 posted on 04/05/2005 8:15:00 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: NYer
I plan to set the alarm clock and watch the funeral at 4am on Friday.

Groan.... me too but I go to bed at 2 AM due to working nights. I just cannot miss the final goodbye.

73 posted on 04/05/2005 8:16:20 AM PDT by american colleen
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74 posted on 04/05/2005 8:16:59 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: ELS
Perhaps this is God's way of bringing Latin and Gregorian Chant back into the liturgy.

After this past week, I will never believe that things happen coincidentally.

I wouldn't have guessed that the news stations (cable anyway) would be pretty much 24/7. So many elevated beyond Joncas and Haas and Haugen. That music is just so inadequate and it has never been more apparent to so many.

75 posted on 04/05/2005 8:19:37 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen

Thank you!!!


76 posted on 04/05/2005 8:20:20 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: sandyeggo

I think they were his house staff and secretarial staff.


77 posted on 04/05/2005 8:22:21 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: american colleen

They were ALL lay staff.


78 posted on 04/05/2005 8:23:51 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ninenot; Desdemona; HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Perhaps this is God's way of bringing Latin and Gregorian Chant back into the liturgy. Their beauty is unquestionable and helps to lift hearts and minds to God. At the very least, one can hope those who are not familiar with Latin and chant will become curious about them.

I meant to ping you to #67.

79 posted on 04/05/2005 8:24:51 AM PDT by ELS
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To: ELS

We're doing our bit with a solemn high requiem mass on Friday (Vetus Ordo). I'm gonna lobby for a red Mass as well, for the start of the conclave. These events will be advertised and I hope will attract some newcomers.


80 posted on 04/05/2005 8:28:53 AM PDT by Romulus (Golly...suddenly I feel strangely SEDEVACANTIST!)
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