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Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With Billions
NY Times ^ | 4/5/05 | Eduardo Porter

Posted on 04/04/2005 9:27:22 PM PDT by Crackingham

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To: Crackingham

My Daddy always told me, "Follow the Money". This is just another reason for members of Congress, all of them, Dems and Republicans, to not close the borders. This is just another example of money they can spend that they don't have to account for.

If we had the FairTax, HR25-S25, it would put an end to all of this. They would pay taxes on all goods purchased with whatever money they make, under the table or otherwise.

I don't mean to change the topic of the thread, but "Follow the Money".


41 posted on 04/05/2005 2:40:23 AM PDT by Lionround (Any litigators out there? Email me about free republic specials. dg@litcominc.com)
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To: Crackingham

It looks like his employers have a great scam going. They tell him they have to withhould socialist security, then pocket the money. They undoubtedly withhold federal, state, and local taxes as well that go into the company coffers. I'm sure this patriotic minded guy who really wants to be a full fledged American citizen would let the government know about this scam if he knew where to go to report it.


42 posted on 04/05/2005 2:59:34 AM PDT by RushLake (Permission from the UN...we don't need no stinking permission slip from the UN.)
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To: Crackingham
"...paid about $2,000 toward Social Security and $450 for Medicare through payroll taxes..."

The equivalent of three visits to an Emergency room?

43 posted on 04/05/2005 3:37:13 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: cyborg

BUMP


44 posted on 04/05/2005 3:39:21 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: All; HiJinx
Illegal immigration, Marcelo Suárez-Orozco, co-director of immigration studies at New York University, noted sardonically, could provide "the fastest way to shore up the long-term finances of Social Security."

Now, I don't know how you guys and gals take this, but it appears this person wants our government to sanction proceeds from and embrace illegal activity just like the despicable, corruption-riddled government from the lands they left. This is all the more reason to get these types out of America.

45 posted on 04/05/2005 3:45:31 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: CindyDawg

BINGO!! And use of emergency rooms, and crime, and social security scamming, etc. etc. etc.


46 posted on 04/05/2005 3:53:13 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Crackingham

Nice of "Eduardo" to use highly suspect numbers to celebrate illegality as a means of propping up a socialist program.

This entire article sounds like "La Raza" propaganda, and it completely overlooks the known, provable numbers in the billions that illegals cost US taxpayers every year.


47 posted on 04/05/2005 5:02:07 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Crackingham

Many of them are paid in cash. There is no withholding. That's why a consumption tax makes sense. They'd have to pay something on anything they buy...though it wouldn't be much...and that's more than we get out of the cash-under-the-table economy now.


48 posted on 04/05/2005 5:05:41 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: azhenfud
I don't know how you guys and gals take this, but it appears this person wants our government to sanction proceeds from and embrace illegal activity just like the despicable, corruption-riddled government from the lands they left. This is all the more reason to get these types out of America.

That's exactly how I take it. The author of this article and his illegal alien reconquista corruption loving illegal aliens can go to hell.

49 posted on 04/05/2005 5:08:38 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: cyborg
I thought they were all paid cash? That how my dad used to do it on his potato farm in the 80's.
50 posted on 04/05/2005 5:09:20 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Michael, is it the movie and books deals you're waiting for, my boy?)
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To: Crackingham

Oh. Well. Since there's money involved, it's okay to break the law.

Move along. Nothing to see here.


51 posted on 04/05/2005 5:09:44 AM PDT by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: HiJinx; Happy2BMe

Ping the crew to this pile of manure.

The latest in La Raza/MECHA/MALDEF lies printed courtesy of the bird cage liner of record.


52 posted on 04/05/2005 5:14:08 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Crackingham
Oh spare me the social BS. This is just another NY Slimes propaganda piece to try and make us feel guilty!

When you balance what these felons pay in versus what they suck out, they are a negative.

53 posted on 04/05/2005 5:14:56 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Don't let Terri's death be in vain!)
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To: Crackingham
...contributes more than most Americans to the solvency of the nation's public retirement system.

One has to wonder which segment of the population the NYTimes in referring? Hummmm

54 posted on 04/05/2005 5:17:32 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Coyoteman
"Do you know what that means?"

It means that you don't what you are talking about.

You are a Master in the art of self-deception.

55 posted on 04/05/2005 5:21:13 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Why don't you enlighten us then.


56 posted on 04/05/2005 5:49:02 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Crackingham

Please finish the title.....
"and sucking even more out of social services"

Thank you.


57 posted on 04/05/2005 6:02:51 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Dubya_4ever_USA

Will we be serving strawberry k00laid or rasberry k00laid this evening?


58 posted on 04/05/2005 6:06:00 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Crackingham; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; ...
LIES, RUMORS, and PROPAGANDA - PING.

(The Mexican invasion will actually SAVE our Social Security System. That's right folks. This line is being officially set forth by El Presidente Fox as the perfect reason to TEAR DOWN THE BORDER between the United States and Mexico and create ONE STANDARD CURRENCY between the two and Candida.)

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"But Mr. Martínez - who comes from the state of Oaxaca in southern Mexico and hiked for two days through the desert to enter the United States near Tecate, some 20 miles east of Tijuana - contributes more than most Americans to the solvency of the nation's public retirement system."

What does El Presidente Fox have to say about it?

Pack Up The MaMmAsItAS - We're Headed For AZTLAN!

Bill would deny U.S. citizenship to children of illegal immigrants

59 posted on 04/05/2005 6:09:56 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Crackingham

NYT spin.

How long before we have reparation speeches for illegals.


60 posted on 04/05/2005 6:10:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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